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    Allison
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    Guys, is it normal to feel disconnected from your family? I’ve never felt close to my parents and siblings. Growing up, communication was poor. I know bringing up children is no easy task but I think my parents thought it should be. They blamed each other when we misbehaved and in the end chose to check themselves out completely. I learned not to go to them for help early on and as a result, became very independent from an early age.

    Don’t get me wrong, if I think about the fact that my parents will be gone someday, or if something bad happens to my family, I feel sad. That much is genuine. But truthfully (and I feel really guilty writing this down), I don’t really enjoy spending time with them because we just don’t have anything in common.

    Now that I’m an adult, out of the house and out of the country, there’s this enormous pressure (especially from my mom) to always dedicate any free time I may have to them to the point that I can’t be honest with them. I get about 3 weeks off each year. Of that 3 weeks, I allocate 1 week for my family. I don’t tell her about my 2 other weeks because she would question and guilt-trip me about it.

    I think my siblings don’t care that much, they understand it’s the quality and not quantity, and that we have other people outside our family we’d like to spend time with as well. It’s my mom who is always guilt-tripping me about not spending enough time with her even though when I do, it’s always filled with banal chitchat and awkward silence because it’s impossible to have a real conversation with her.

    Now, I have resorted to lying about my holiday arrangement in order to have some space. I don’t feel good about lying. I’ve tried telling her the truth in the hope that we can have a conversation like an adult but she’d always end up being passive aggressive, guilt-tripping me, and I ended up feeling miserable. Is it okay that I stop trying to have a real connection and just start lying from now on? My mom loves to be in denial and frankly, I think she much prefers a beautiful denial to painful real moments.

    #70889
    Inky
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    Hi Allison,

    The good news is you’re out of the country! The bad news is you’re out of the country.

    Here’s a thought. Every OTHER year do the dutiful daughter routine and visit them. But every OTHER year insist they visit you! Open your home up but be working during the day. They will sight see. Then make a great dinner and take them to a show. Do activities and go to movies so there’s no room for banality. Pretend you’re a tour guide.

    I hear you about having *those* relatives. Everyone goes through this. Holidays, ugh.

    So that’s my strategy!

    Inky

    #70910
    Darell
    Participant

    Hello Allison. Here’s my perspective about your question. I hope this can help you even just a little.

    It sounds like you want to have a more genuine and authentic relationship with your family. One in which you can communicate more honestly with them and not resort to lying because it just makes you feel awful. Because they’re your family, you would reasonably assume you can always be open and honest with them. But this doesn’t always happen and you can rest assure that what you are feeling is not wrong (you feeling disconnected to your family).

    I think it’s a very positive thing that you learned how to become independent from an early age. You even mentioned how you and your siblings have other people outside your family that you like to spend time with (I would consider that a win!). I can tell you that no positive results can ever come from being dishonest with your family and yourself. You want to have a real connection with your family, but it clearly bothers you that you feel you have to lie in order to have some space and it sounds like you don’t want to lie anymore. Proudly accept that this is what you honestly want for yourself.

    The guilt that you feel comes from your own doubts on whether it’s okay for you to be honest and genuine with yourself while being around your family as well. At the very least, you won’t be bothered by your mother’s passive aggression. You may even become bolder and more determined by just accepting what you want with no regrets. In the end, you will feel positive no matter what the outcome may be with your family.

    #70916
    Allison
    Participant

    Thanks for the replies!

    It seems to me that from both your replies, I’m actually on the right track. I guess I just need some affirmation along the way.

    What triggered me to write this post was I had to attend a friend’s wedding over the weekend (in my home country), and I deliberated whether or not to tell my family but in the end I decided to tell them. I was thinking of meeting them over lunch / dinner but my mom right away said she was gonna get a room in the same hotel as mine. She said I don’t necessarily have to see her, she just wanted to relax in a nice hotel over the weekend. I mean, come on…(This is not the first time she did this, btw. I had to go back for a wedding in 3 occasions, and in those occasions, she suddenly got a room in the same hotel as mine).

    So I was thinking, alright, never mind, I have to be grateful I have a mother who wants to be close to me, right? So I told her she could stay with me in my room. All the while, I was talking to my sister (the only person I have least problem with). She was supportive of me and I was under the impression that she was going to stay with us. So when I found out she wasn’t, and that my mom planned to get my dad and adult brother to stay in the same hotel room intended only for 2 person, that was the last straw!

    I am pushing 30 and I am NOT going to have a sleepover with my parents and adult brother! It’s just too much, I really need my space at the very least when I sleep at night. So I lied to her at the last minute and said one of my friend couldn’t find a room and I offered her to stay with me. I was in a dump after this whole episode, I was angry and sad that she chose to be in denial and just went ahead with whatever she wanted even though I’m sure she got the hints, and I’m angry that I feel forced to lie to her because she’d much rather be in denial. I know she’s doing this because I think she feels guilty that she was distant and checked out when we were growing up and she’s trying to make up for it somehow, but we are all adults now. Those moments she missed out would never come back and that’s the consequences she has to live with. Why can’t she see things for what it is instead of what could have been and start living in reality??

    Wheww, feels so good to get it off my chest.

    #70930
    Allison
    Participant

    Sorry guys but allow me to get more things off my chest.

    I went through emotional and physical abuse growing up that shaped up the kind of relationship I have with my family now. My reluctance to spend time with them is not something I’m doing because I want to spite them, it is honestly how I feel. Despite it, I’m consciously making an effort to maintain a relationship, but I wish my parents understand it won’t be the kind of relationship as if the abuse never happened.

    Moving out of the house, having a distance, and being financially independent really help because my parents don’t understand the concept of boundaries, privacy, or kids having their own lives. My mom used to read my diaries (instead of actually have a talk) and chastised me for what I wrote in there. Everything is about fear, shame, or guilt. When I first got my period, the only thing she told me was “you better don’t get pregnant!”. One time she found my stash of (ahem) adult materials, she told me she got rid of it and said to me “I’m on to you,” and since then every time I was reading something, she’d suspiciously ask “what are you reading?”. Funny thing is, later I found one of those adult materials in her nightstand. Gross.

    And growing up, what I had to say never had any bearings whatsoever on my parents. Still don’t actually. One of the biggest beefs I have is about our dogs. We never had dogs until my house was broken into one day. My dad then bought a couple of mongrels to guard the house. That was one of the happiest days of my life. They became my best friends until they grew old or too much to handle and my dad would get rid of them. Just took them and put them on the street like they were nothing. My dogs never saw a vet a day in their lives, my dad just doesn’t spend that kind of money on pets. One of them developed this skin disease and I just knew my dad would get rid of him. I was so stressed and felt so helpless, I was in 6th grade, had no money to get him to the vet, and when my dad was loading him to his car I mustered my courage, I was shaking, fighting back my tears so my dad won’t see it and made my case. I didn’t beg, I was like a businessman lobbying an investor. I pinpointed all the benefits of keeping the dog and I lied through my teeth that his skin was healing. And I succeeded. Well, at least for a few months. He still got rid of him in the end.

    When I finally won the golden ticket and move out of the country, I left behind a dog. I knew they were gonna get rid of him one day, still I tried to talk to them like an adult this time. In one of my weekly phone calls, I told my mom please take care of my dog and don’t get rid of him, it would mean so much to me. She said okay. Then few months later when they visited me, my mom casually mentioned that they’d got rid of the dog. I cried my ass off that night. And the next week, my mom called me like nothing happened, telling me she was planning a family trip to Thailand and wanted me to join. Fresh off my anger and feeling like there is no point in concealing my disappointment, I simply said I don’t want to. The next day, she texted me saying she cried last night because she felt like I was pulling away. Funny thing is, she acted as if she didn’t understand why I was doing this. Umm, hellooo???

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