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  • #415711
    Anil
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    Hello Everyone,

    It’s been a long time since I’ve been here. I had an account before but I lost access to it and I don’t have it now. I would like to share my story with everyone here and I’m looking for some feedback or advice on my story.

    So, I had an unrequited love in my life before (7 years ago). It haunted me and made me very anxious and depressed. Although it was my fault to expect love from someone who was good and clean about not loving me back. A part of me wanted her but I know it couldn’t happen no matter how hard I tried, I ended up hurting the woman I loved and myself.

    I moved on and Last year in May, I met another woman who was beautiful and amazing I found joy and purpose in my life again. I felt so happy and cared after a long time. I didn’t want to lose her so I used to stick around her whenever I had a chance.

    However, she was already married and she was separated from her husband (she was a victim of domestic abuse, so she left her husband but never divorced him). She had a boyfriend after moving away from her husband and they broke up soon (This happened before I met her). I fell so hard for her and I confessed to her after 6 months, she denied it politely. I couldn’t accept the rejection and avoided her on purpose because I know I would end up getting hurt again and would hurt her in the process of making her love me back. I felt that she didn’t see me the way I saw her but she had a close friend, whom she cared for the most. Though her close friend wasn’t interested in her, the way he spent time and moments with her made me feel insecure and Jealous. He was my friend too and he was kind to me all the time. The three of us spent time together and had great moments before I confessed to her.

    After my confession, I just couldn’t bear the pain and I became so toxic towards both of them and hurt them both. I stopped talking to them or meeting them anymore. A part of me feels like I wasn’t enough for her and she had feelings for her close friend. We are not on good terms anymore and don’t talk anymore. I apologized to both of them multiple times and I left them alone because they didn’t want to talk to me anymore after everything that has happened. I wish to keep things the same way because I don’t think I can be friends anymore and I may worsen things with them if I stay with them further. I feel so guilty and ashamed because I confessed to a married woman and it made our friendship awkward. I visited a prostitute later hoping it would make me forget about her, love or any suffering but it didn’t help and I lost my virginity to the worker.

    Now I feel so alone, lost, ashamed and guilty. I feel like there’s no purpose or love anymore in my life. I have given upon finding love, I feel that this world has become so busy and capitalistic that there’s no chance of finding. I don’t want to be loved anymore, I know I cannot find it no matter how hard I try. I’m reading books and trying meditation it does help me for certain time but it doesn’t take away how I feel about everything. I have been running around in circles looking for love or approval, but it never happens. This is my story and I would like to know what can I do now to make my life and people around me better.

    #415727
    Tee
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    Dear Anil,

    I feel so guilty and ashamed because I confessed to a married woman and it made our friendship awkward.

    First, don’t feel guilty because although she wasn’t officially divorced, she was separated from her husband. She even had a boyfriend after her separation, with whom she broke up. All that happened before you even met her:

    she was separated from her husband (she was a victim of domestic abuse, so she left her husband but never divorced him). She had a boyfriend after moving away from her husband and they broke up soon (This happened before I met her)

    So when you met her, she wasn’t in a relationship with anybody, so you weren’t trying to steal her away from anyone. You confessed your feelings, because you fell in love with her, and you didn’t make any mistake by doing that.

    Where you probably made a mistake is that you couldn’t accept her rejection and you did something that hurt her:

    I fell so hard for her and I confessed to her after 6 months, she denied it politely. I couldn’t accept the rejection and avoided her on purpose because I know I would end up getting hurt again and would hurt her in the process of making her love me back.

    After my confession, I just couldn’t bear the pain and I became so toxic towards both of them and hurt them both. I stopped talking to them or meeting them anymore.

    May I ask what have you done to hurt her? Did you just avoid her (and that male friend of yours), or there was something else you’ve done, which you think is toxic behavior?

    You say you had a similar experience with another woman 7 years ago. She too rejected you but you couldn’t accept it, so you say you ended up hurting her:

    A part of me wanted her but I know it couldn’t happen no matter how hard I tried, I ended up hurting the woman I loved and myself.

    How have you hurt her?

    I have been running around in circles looking for love or approval, but it never happens. … I would like to know what can I do now to make my life and people around me better.

    It seems there’s been a pattern of unrequited love: you loving someone and yearning for their love, but them not loving you back. We have such deep yearning usually when we don’t really love ourselves, and we believe we need someone to fulfill us. To give us the love we desperately need. It’s very likely related to your childhood and perhaps feeling unlovable?

     

    #415731
    Anil
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    Hi Tee,

    Thanks for the reply. The toxic behaviour was I blamed them for my unhappiness. I did not abuse either of the women physically or verbally but I texted them mean words, avoided them and stopped talking to them. Although it was hurting me terribly I did that in anger and agony, hoping it would end the suffering or feelings for them. It hurts to the point where I can feel pain physically in my chest.

    In my first experience I found that she was happy and okay talking and hanging out with other guys but not me. Whenever I asked for any chance to see her or meet her she would deny it stating some reasons like “I can’t be seen with you, it would make a wrong impression that we are a couple and I don’t want it”. However, she was happy spending time and being seen with other guys. Although it’s not her fault as I understand everyone has their own free will and preferences. This made me feel like an outcast.

    With my recent experience, the same pattern repeated itself. She was happy spending time with her male friend rather than being with me. She always used to be immersed in something else rather than talking to me or made up reasons only with me. I know it’s wrong to blame her but all I wanted was for her to be happy with me and spend time with me.

    Both the times, I felt like I was the one making more efforts to save friendship and placing myself in a position where it felt like I was making the maximum efforts in the friendship.

    I’m an introvert and I don’t have much friends too. So I just latch onto a person hoping I would find happiness. My childhood was not good to be honest, it was okay. My parents would always have constant fights and arguments in the house which gave me a bit of trauma and no emotional support but I’m happy that they worked hard to give me everything and made sure that I completed my education promptly. I think this trauma carried on with me even now in my adulthood. I’m trying to make better relationship with my parents now but I think its in vain and a bit late. I have no resentment towards my parents though, looking back I understand the struggles they had to go through to raise and educate my brother and me.

    #415816
    Tee
    Participant

    Dear Anil,

    you’re very welcome.

    The toxic behaviour was I blamed them for my unhappiness. I did not abuse either of the women physically or verbally but I texted them mean words, avoided them and stopped talking to them

    I see… so you said something mean to them, you blamed them for your unhappiness, and then you stopped contact. Yeah, I mean, it wasn’t nice, but it’s understandable – it was pain and hurt speaking from you, and this was your way to express your anger.

    I believe that a lot of your current pain and suffering is related to your childhood, because you said you didn’t really have any emotional support, and you grew up exposed to your parents fighting all the time:

    My childhood was not good to be honest, it was okay. My parents would always have constant fights and arguments in the house which gave me a bit of trauma and no emotional support.

    In such an environment, without tenderness, care and gentle feelings, the child feels terrified. Also, the child feels unseen and unimportant, because the parents don’t care about him, don’t pay attention to him, but are preoccupied with hurting one another. The child’s emotional needs are unmet, even if his physical and material needs are met. So even if your parents provided for you and enabled you good education, it seems they still failed in providing what is most important: emotional care and support.

    I think that’s why you are in such a dire need to be loved and cared for. And that’s why you tend to “latch onto a person, hoping I would find happiness.” The child in you has those key emotional needs unmet, and he is looking to have them met by another person, i.e. a romantic interest. At least this is my assumption. How does it sound to you? Does it sound plausible?

     

    #415877
    Anil
    Participant

    Hello Tee,

    Yes, That’s right. I don’t know why I was always under the assumption that a romantic interest would understand me and fix me but I don’t think its a feasible solution to achieve happiness. I’m also not content with my career and life. I have been very ignorant and carefree about them. I also have social anxiety when I’m at a public gathering and have some self esteem issues. I’m working now and fixing them one step at a time. Sometimes it scares me to a point where I think I should just quit everything and become an ascetic monk for the rest of my life. Recently I have been studying books about Buddhism and I think Siddhartha experienced these feelings too. I feel a bit better now to be honest but the last couple of months have been terrible, I caged myself in an endless pain and suffering with alcohol, cannabis and cigarettes (Currently, I’m sober for a month and I feel a bit better) . I’m doing a bit better now with good sleep, food, meditation and mindfulness.

    #415880
    Tee
    Participant

    Dear Anil,

    I don’t know why I was always under the assumption that a romantic interest would understand me and fix me but I don’t think its a feasible solution to achieve happiness.

    That’s actually very common – our romantic relationships are a mirror of the relationship with our parents. And in our romantic relationships we try to get what he haven’t received from our parents. In your case, you craved that someone would love you, care for you and understand you, because you haven’t received that from your parents.

    But you’re right, it’s not a feasible solution to achieve happiness, because even if we were to find a super caring person, that emotional wound and the sense of lack that we’ve experienced in childhood would still be in us, and it would never be enough. When there’s a wound inside, it’s like a bottomless pit – it cannot get filled, even if someone is trying their best to love us and care for us.

    That’s why the solution is to heal that wound first, to give ourselves what we were lacking in childhood. And that’s when you won’t be so needy in a relationship, but will be able to love and care for yourself better. As a result, you’ll also have a different dynamic with girls, you won’t be so needy, and you’ll be able to have a healthy relationship.

    the last couple of months have been terrible, I caged myself in an endless pain and suffering with alcohol, cannabis and cigarettes (Currently, I’m sober for a month and I feel a bit better) . I’m doing a bit better now with good sleep, food, meditation and mindfulness.

    Glad you’re doing better now and taking care of yourself better! But yes, addiction is a typical way of soothing our pain. I believe that every addiction is about soothing or numbing the pain of our inner child… If you can get in touch with that inner child and meet his unmet emotional needs (the best would be with the help of therapy), you can be free from addiction too. And other issues too, such as low self-esteem.

    Have you considered therapy? Do you have access to it?

     

    #415896
    Anil
    Participant

    Hello Tee,

    No, I haven’t considered therapy but I do have access to it. I kept these things discrete from most of my friends and family. Right now, I feel like I have been doing good compared to the last few months. I would like to wait and see how things turn out. I know that I have been immature sometimes but I’m learning to be mindful, mature and decisive. I’m also spending my time on career as I never did before.

    #415897
    Tee
    Participant

    Dear Anil,

    I am glad you’re feeling better at the moment and are practicing self-help. However, bad feelings might return, as you said it yourself:

    I’m reading books and trying meditation it does help me for certain time but it doesn’t take away how I feel about everything.

    It’s normal that if we suffer from childhood trauma, the problem is deeper and we often need another person or people to help us. We can’t pull ourselves up by our own bootstraps. We need support.

    It’s also understandable that you don’t want to talk about these things with your friends and family (I kept these things discrete from most of my friends and family.) That’s why a therapist might be a good idea. In any case, it’s good that you have access to therapy, should you need it.

    I know that I have been immature sometimes but I’m learning to be mindful, mature and decisive. I’m also spending my time on career as I never did before.

    Excellent! I do wish you continued success. If you happen to feel down again, please know that you don’t need to do it alone – there is help and with good counseling, you can get permanently better. Wishing you all the best!

     

    #415959
    Anil
    Participant

    Hello Tee,

    Thank you.

    #415963
    Tee
    Participant

    You’re welcome, Anil. If you need help in the future, feel free to post again!

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