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  • #455445
    Mollie
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    Anita,

    So lovely to hear back from you. You are so selfless, giving me no more than 5 lines on how you are, but writing almost 2 pages in response to my life and my problems! Bless you Anita.

    Please tell me more about how you are doing. How have you been able to find peace in those bouts of anxiety? Did you take a break from the online world?

    What tattoo did you get! Thatโ€™s wonderful!

    I am so grateful for your investment and care you have placed in my situation. Thank you, Anita.

    My feelings towards them are mainly love and gratitude. Itโ€™s not completely black/white – I donโ€™t want to be exactly like them (and even donโ€™t want traits of theirs) but I recognise they have done a good job of being loving carers and trying their best, and thatโ€™s all I could ever ask for. Itโ€™s funny because when I am in a challenging situation (like I am now trying to pass the bar), I ruminate and worry much more than normal. I would be interested to see whether these feelings come up when life quietens down and ease flows. But I really appreciate what you said and all the comments made – so thank you.

    #455447
    anita
    Participant

    Dear Mollie:

    You are very kind and gracious ๐Ÿ˜‡. Looking back, I wrote TOO MUCH in my last post (the “study”). I need to write less, in general, especially when it comes to other people’s childhoods and relationships with parents/ family.

    It’s nice to read that you feel love and gratitude for your parents. Talking about love, my tattoo consists of 5 letters: ALULA.

    What it means is “I love you”, which is what my nephew tried to say to me when he was a toddler. What came out was Alula, and ever since then, 30+ years later, whenever I talk to him on the phone (he lives in another country), I tell him Alula.

    You asked me to tell you more about myself, so I will- tomorrow morning when I have the use of a computer.

    Take care and again thank you for being appreciative and kind. ๐Ÿ˜‡๐Ÿ™

    ๐Ÿค Anita

    #455473
    anita
    Participant

    Dear Mollie:

    Iโ€™ve been thinking about your last message, and something really struck me โ€” the way you hold love and gratitude for your parents while also acknowledging the pressure and overwhelm. That kind of emotional balance is rare. Most people swing to one extreme or the other, but you seem to have a very grounded sense of nuance. It says a lot about your emotional maturity.

    And youโ€™re right: stressful seasons like preparing for the bar tend to amplify old patterns. It doesnโ€™t mean the patterns arenโ€™t real โ€” just that they become louder when life demands more from you. When things quiet down, you may find that the same themes are still there, just in a softer form.

    I admire how reflective you are about all of this. You donโ€™t shy away from looking inward, even when itโ€™s uncomfortable. Thatโ€™s a strength ๐Ÿ’ช

    You wrote yesterday that I am selfless, but I do get something out of trying to understand how people’s childhoods affect their adulthoods: it helps me understand the same about me.

    You asked, “Please tell me more about how you are doing. How have you been able to find peace in those bouts of anxiety? Did you take a break from the online world?”-

    Yes, I do take breaks from the online world. I’m usually online in the mornings and in the evenings. I used to socialize with people in the real world a whole lot earlier, almost every day, sometimes up to 10 hours a day, but not much and not enough since Dec of last year because of a business closing. I socialize in the local taproom a few times a week and really enjoy it!

    About finding peace, I’ll share what the analytical post I sent you on Feb 21 brought up for me in regard to seeking my own peace of mind:

    I grew up in a home with conflict and tension. I can still feel the tension in my body all those years later, in the form of motor and vocal tics (Tourette’s) which involve physical tension.

    There was a lot of emotional instability in the home (which didn’t feel like a home, but more like a pressure cooker), and I indeed absorbed a lot of the stress I grew up with.

    My mother was explosive and her explosions were unpredictable. I tried my very best, again and again and again (after each time I failed) to be perfect so to prevent her next explosion.

    My focus was my mother, how she felt. How I felt was moved out of focus. In other words, my needs, feelings, wants, preferences, those were moved so far out of my focus that I no longer knew what they were.

    I felt responsible for how she felt, felt very guilty, as if I caused her to be miserable or angry, as if I birthed her, not the other way around. I wasn’t a care-free child or adolescent.. or adult.

    I loved my mother deeply, but I also felt trapped and often angry. I tried to stop caring about her so that I could become a separate person, living my own life, so I kept being angry at her, but the anger never led to separating from her (psychologically). What did help is to allow myself to feel love for her, to not push down that love (trying unsuccessfully to get rid of it). (I’ll continue this post later).

    #455475
    anita
    Participant

    Continued:

    So, I loved her and I hated her and tried to suppress (push down, fight against) both of those emotional experiences, being stuck in chronic tension, anxiety and depression for decades.

    I found out that healing/ peace of mind, is about EXPRESSING (as I am doing right now), to bring out into the light what’s been in the dark for too long.

    Another way to say it: it’s about freeing my emotions from a 2 dimensional, suffocated existence to a 3 dimensional existence.

    That’s when emotions relax- when you give them the 3rd dimension, air to breathe and relax.

    My love for her relaxed (it doesn’t feel like pressure, like guilt), and my anger at her relaxed as well. It doesn’t feel like war-within.

    ๐Ÿค๐Ÿ™๐Ÿค Anita

    #455567
    Mollie
    Participant

    Oh Anita, that sounds so difficult and Iโ€™m so that you had to face that during your childhood. And then carry those emotions for years, it must have felt so heavy and overwhelming – no wonder they still manifest in your body today.

    Your response to your motherโ€™s outbursts is entirely understandable, and you should give yourself grace that you tried to dissipate her tension in the only way that was within your control: by perfecting yourself. Your younger self must have been exhausted and terrified of living in those unpredictable circumstances.

    As to how you expressed your feelings since then – you were not taught or shown emotional regularity nor could you express your true emotions out of fear of causing an outburst. So you taught yourself based on what you experienced from your mother (to suppress) and you taught yourself based on what you saw from your mother (outbursts, emotional uncertainty) which led to the mixed feelings of anger, resentment, love and guilt. Again, this is completely understandable.

    You know what? You are so strong and selfless Anita. Not only are you breaking the toxic cycles and healing generational trauma, but you have shared your story and use your own experiences to empathise with others. Iโ€™m so glad you feel finally able to express how you feel, instead of suppressing. Your emotions and feelings are always worthy of expression. I am here to express feelings always!

    You are a deeply good, kind and compassionate individual – always remember that. ๐Ÿค

    #455568
    Mollie
    Participant

    PS – thank you for your kind words about me. I appreciate it a lot. ๐Ÿฅฐ

    #455569
    Mollie
    Participant

    PPS – I love the tattoo. What a unique and wonderful expression of love and how lovely that you have a constant reminder of that. I hope that when you look at it, you are reminded of your strength, love and humanity.

    #455571
    anita
    Participant

    Dear Mollie:

    Thank you so much for your lovely replies. I want to reread them later and reply further. But dor now, I want to say: you are a genuinely good, caring and generous person.

    Remember to put yourself first though. Not selfishly but not selflessly either.

    ๐Ÿค๐Ÿ™๐Ÿค Anita

    #455579
    anita
    Participant

    Dear Mollie:

    You are very welcome ๐Ÿ™ and again, thank you for your kindness and attention.

    I am so very curious to know what “selfless” means to you in regard to your choices in life, or in general- what “selfless” means to you.

    Self-less (or more accurately, No-Self), is what my mother demanded of me, as in loving her = no me.

    My healing has been, and still is, about resurrecting that the me in that no-me.

    Do you have thoughts or feelings about what I’m saying? It’s okay if you don’t, or if I sound too intense.

    ๐Ÿ™๐Ÿคโœจ๏ธ Anita

    #455778
    Mollie
    Participant

    Hello Anita,

    It is so interesting that you have asked me this question. I have been a people-pleaser for the past few years, and finding the balance between being selfish and selfless is actually one that Iโ€™m still trying to master!

    There is a book called how to love others without losing yourself. I read it a few years ago but I think the title is accurate on how I view your question. Being selfless means not losing yourself when loving others. And that loving you, and loving others, can peacefully co-exist.

    Iโ€™m in a situation at the moment where i finally feel more at peace. With my studies, with life, with myself. But, my family is now facing a new challenge – so Iโ€™m really trying to support them, yet in that support, I am making sure I am still prioritising myself and reminding myself that it is okay and not selfish to look out for myself. Itโ€™s also coming up to my birthday so maybe itโ€™s a full circle moment!

    Do you find the balance hard to strike? What does selfless mean to you ๐Ÿค

    #455791
    anita
    Participant

    Hello Mollie ๐Ÿ˜Š

    It’s truly a delight to read your message: so much self awareness and healing taking place for you.

    You are making it happen ๐Ÿ‘

    I hope that your family’s new challenges resolve. Maybe it’s an opportunity for you to practice that balance between loving yourself and loving them during a real-life challenge.

    You worded it all so well, I can’t improve on it. So, I’ll jump straight to the questions you asked me:

    What does selfless (vs selfish) means to me: selfless needs to be temporary, while attending to someone in urgent or elevated need. Let’s say engaging with them in a supportive conversation, helping with housework, etc.

    But then, within the same day or night, there needs to be a return to self, a grounding, an anchoring โš“๏ธ within. The balance is in making the return to self a regular, routine practice.

    Selfishness is repeatedly, or continuously (beyond an incident here, an incident there)- not considering how my words and actions are negatively affecting others, or worse, not even caring.

    I just heard that it’s Women’s Day, happy ๐Ÿ˜Š women’s day to you, Mollie!

    โš“๏ธ ๐Ÿ‘ ๐Ÿค โœจ๏ธ`Anita

    #455798
    Mollie
    Participant

    Anita,

    What an articulate and clear way to differentiate between selfishness and selflessness. I have to write that down somewhere!

    Thank you for your kind words about my healing. I would like to reflect something back to you.

    I was reading through this forum, and I wished to highlight a passage you wrote: โ€˜Using the word Stuck in the title you chose for your thread, I have been Stuck in early childhood thinking, and only recently did I start nuancing my thinking.โ€™

    You then, on page 5, reflect on your journey to more self-compassion and self-awareness in navigating your emotions. You write: I found out that healing/ peace of mind, is about EXPRESSING (as I am doing right now), to bring out into the light whatโ€™s been in the dark for too long. So your healing journey is, too , very evident and Iโ€™m so pleased for you.

    Happy International Womenโ€™s Day Anita โ˜บ๏ธ. Honestly you make the world a better place and I am very fortunate to have met you online!

    #455800
    anita
    Participant

    Mollie,

    Your post made my International Women’s Day very special ๐Ÿ˜Š , the fact that you quoted my words- that made me feel special ๐Ÿ™

    And thank you for saying I make the world a better place. If I make your world just a bit better today, that’s making the bigger world ๐ŸŒŽ a better place.

    Happy IWD for you too. I am fortunate to have met you here.

    ๐Ÿ™ ๐Ÿค โœจ๏ธ ๐ŸŒŽ Anita

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