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  • #72885
    Marc
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    Dear everyone,

    Hello, and big loving walrus hugs to all of you. I hope you are well. I am sort of okay… I mean, things are going great and I really have no reason to be unhappy (I spent a WONDERFUL Valentine’s Day weekend with somebody incredibly special and central to my heart), but I made a stupid error recently that has really been affecting me, and I could use a bit of advice on how to get around it, as it has been affecting me…

    I made the mistake of seeing that new movie “Kingsman” WITHOUT seeing the rating beforehand. 🙁 I should say first that I’m an HSP (Highly Sensitive Person), and as such, there is a certain level of violence and swearing that I really can’t stand or find entertaining. If you are an HSP, DO NOT SEE THIS MOVIE. 🙁 It is exceedingly violent, full of f-words, and insinuates that watching human beings being killed/attacked is okay, while hurting animals isn’t (and I mean that I don’t like seeing animals getting hurt either, but since we humans are animals, too, shouldn’t we treat each other with the same love?).

    The movie REALLY bothered me. 🙁 I could barely sleep that night. My lover was so good to me during it, holding me close as I turned away for almost all of the violent scenes (most of which were supposedly overplayed for laughs, but in my eyes were far too extreme, especially in a huge theater with realistic blaring sound and screen). Still, it horrified me and upset me to extremes. I only liked the “gentlemanly” parts of it, which were the main appeal in the first place (and a complete gilded coating to the ugliness underneath).

    I was equally upset to see that the few posts on IMDB of individuals who were equally upset were met with sneers and jibes, saying that they should have never entered the theater or “Let us people with spines enjoy something for once.” 🙁 I decided to respond to them with a bit more love, saying, in short, that “somebody understands.”

    Even so, I can’t get over those images that keep replaying in my head, over and over and over and over. 🙁 I’d say it’s like PTSD, though I understand completely that PTSD is MUCH MUCH MUCH more serious and longer-lasting. But in my case, it’s pretty damn long-lasting, too. Tons of things have affected me this way. Movies, TV (Roseanne is the worst), and real-life events… In moments of quiet, I find my mind going back to those painful things that bother me so much, often to the point of tears or biting my hand to calm myself down.

    I DO try other things, especially listening to calmer or distracting music, playing an interesting game, or simply fantasizing about a calm, loving experience (one with an animal or anthropomorphic creature really touches me). Sometimes it works….but sometimes not. The bad thoughts and memories keep coming to me, and they really really hurt. I’m just simply grateful that my lover did not condemn me for my sensitivity or fears, and was so good to me the entire time he was here. 🙂 Love DOES exist in this world…you just have to look for it. 🙂

    So I write this with two purposes: Firstly as a simple declaration to anyone who feels scared or sensitive to such horrific media, YOU ARE NOT ALONE, and YOU ARE NOT BROKEN. The sensitivity proves that you have a heart, and quite possibly a large one at that, capable of understanding others and loving, especially when there is far too much simple-minded hate. 🙁

    The second purpose is simply questioning what others do when they find bad, painful thoughts plaguing their heads, constantly interrupting their daily flow of work and life. Meditation doesn’t always work for me, as the quietness just feels like more open space for the pain to enter. The images come to me and just frighten me and upset me, and even the associated music in the movie makes it worse when I hear it outside of the film…. 🙁

    But, sites like TinyBuddha ARE great comforts. 🙂 They prove that there is love, wisdom, and calmness in the world when too often things may seem crazy or painful. I thank all of you (and the site moderators) for gently reminding me of that, and helping me simply by existing.

    I’ve blathered long enough. So I will leave you now with a great big “THANK YOU” for reading this post, for allowing me to speak my heart, and for your patience. I will give you a GREAT BIG LOVING WALRUS HUG (stronger if you are in need of one), and give you a l’l website to browse in case you want to see silly pics of me as my walrus character, Royce:

    https://flic.kr/s/aHsk3A8yeW (Secure site that goes to a Flickr album of my pics)

    Be good to yourself, always. And know you are loved. <3

    — Marc (aka “Walrus” Royce Tuxford Cobblepot)

    #72888
    Cindy
    Participant

    Svankmaj,

    It’s nice to hear from a fellow HSP. I know exactly how you feel, and I wish I had some other advice to give you besides this: give it time. From my own personal experiences with these types of situations, I’ve found that only the passing of time will help dull the horrible things you heard and saw in this film. The best thing to do is avoid these kinds of movies altogether, but I know you said that you didn’t realize just how violent and offensive this film would be. It’s not always obvious from the previews. I hope for your sake that it won’t take too long before the images and words stop replaying in your head. I know how that can rob you of your inner peace. Anyway, just know that you are not alone. There are other people out there who understand you and what you’re going through. I’m sending you lots of positive thoughts and good wishes!

    #72914
    Pamela
    Participant

    I am very empathic, but I wouldn’t describe myself as an HSP. I wouldn’t, however, EVER make fun of someone who is that sensitive! Everyone is different, and everyone finds entertainment in their own way. I find myself bothered by “rom coms” because they are all the same, and “why can’t I find love like that?” Which is part of being so empathic. So I choose not to watch them. Since I’m a female, and prefer the movies that you find offensive, I actually get “sneered at” because I don’t like “chick flicks.” Well, it takes all types to fill the world. If everyone liked the same type of movie, the world would be very boring. If we were all empathic, or all HSP’s, then the world would be boring as well. We need all types of people, and we need to quit judging and making fun of those who are different.

    So go find yourself a wonderful sappy rom com and watch it for me. I’ll do the same with an action flick 🙂 Namaste!

    #72935
    Will
    Participant

    Can’t say no to Walrus hugs.

    You clearly have a loving, compassionate, understanding heart. You have brightened my day just by existing. 🙂 And I think your sweet heart is the best tool you could possibly have to hack this problem.

    Turn your loving heart to the images and thoughts you don’t want to have. They are in your mind, so they’re a part of you, and they need love and acceptance like any other part. Try something like this, perhaps.

    Oh, look, there’s that thought again. Yes, hello thought, there you are. Even though I’m not sure why you’re here right now, I’m willing to have you since, well, here you are. And even though you’re an ugly thought, I know you probably just need a little time and space to be noticed and play out, and then maybe you’ll move on again, so go ahead. I’m paying attention. Even though I don’t like what you say, I know I don’t have to believe it. Even though you’re disturbing to me, I know it doesn’t say anything bad about me to have thoughts like you.

    Etc. Welcome the thought. Talk to it, or just sit with it quietly in friendly silence. Turn your loving heart to the thoughts you don’t want to have. Turn it to the feelings those thoughts bring up in you. Turn it to yourself when you find it hard to do this. If you find you can’t do it, turn your loving heart to the thought “I can’t do it” and welcome that. Keep going until the unpleasantness fades.

    I know this may seem completely weird or even impossible to you. But you asked what others do, and this is what I’ve found to be most effective when dealing with intrusive, unwanted thoughts. In fact, it’s the only thing I’ve found to help at all.

    So I hope it helps you too. My love to you, and your beautiful, precious, sensitive heart.

    #72937
    Marc
    Participant

    Hey Cindy,

    Thank you so much. Just the comfort of knowing that I’m not alone is a DEFINITE help. Unfortunately, the time span for the memories to “get fuzzy” (as I like to say) is usually about five or so years, given my trauma of seeing Pink Floyd’s The Wall at 6 years old (and again at college, thinking I had “toughened up”…but didn’t). For some things, it never leaves. Episodes of Roseanne STILL haunt me at work and bother me so much, and the only way I can get rid of them is through something that involves me actively talking or being distracted by something nicer (oddly enough, quiet spaces can be WORSE for me, since they feel like more open space for the bad thoughts to come back).

    This will take a long time, but your words and the presence of sites like TinyBuddha are definitively a great help. My heart goes out to all those who have been traumatized by far worse things, and I hope they will heal even faster than I will.

    Much love and peace, ALWAYS,

    Marc

    #72938
    Marc
    Participant

    Hey Pamela,

    (By the way, I’m sorry if I’m muddling the replies in this thread. I’m trying to respond to individual posts, but I’m not sure if it’s working right…I rarely post on internet forums!!)

    I’m extremely sorry that you get sneered at, and I don’t care if it’s for liking the movies I hate; the principle is the same! You love what you love, and even though I have fears of people who enjoy violent movies, I am also able to see the aspects that shine far brighter and have an even greater healing force (your empathy and care are so significantly awesome!). Yes, you are right….we need variety in this world, and I do love it, as I love being the “different/weird” one, to add more color to life. I just…have my own tastes, y’know? 🙂

    Rom coms? Hehe, I like CERTAIN ones. 🙂 They gotta be done juuuuuust right for me. Something like My Big Fat Greek Wedding is pleasantly entertaining for being cute, real, funny, and most of all, SIMPLE (no special effects needed!). But I can easily understand why some people wouldn’t care for it, either. And I’m still not certain what constitutes a “chick flick”… I think I liked Notting Hill, but again, I would NEVER EVER EVER look down on someone for disliking it… The best part of being looked down on is that you come to realize how NOT to treat others, and I think it’s made me the more open-hearted person I am today (though even I have my trippings in places).

    Blargle, I think I’m falling over my words now, sorry. Go watch Kingsman and enjoy. 🙂 I love the umbrellas most of all. 😉 I will pop in Noises Off! or Auntie Mame and smile. I can’t deny my tastes in movies are weird and unconventional, but vive la difference, right? 😀

    BIG WALRUS HUGS, all my love, and many thanks to you and yours!! Be safe, always!!!

    — Marc

    #72949
    Marc
    Participant

    Dear Will,

    Mmm, thank you so much for making me feel so special and loved (although shame on ME, because I have SO MANY in my life who love me for me, and I too often let the stupid, bad thoughts crowd my head, with no room for the happier ones).

    Your method is not weird at all. 🙂 I have heard it before, and it is VERY uncomfortable for me to think about, because it means thinking of the thought more and focusing on it (one of them was an extremely vivid shot of an innocent woman being shot in the head at point-blank range), which I already do 90% of the day at work (which causes so much agitation and pain). But this isn’t to say it doesn’t work for other people, so I do advocate it.

    I have a similar thing that I do, usually at home where I can’t be found “weird” if I’m talking to myself openly: I like to take a stuffed animal (or simply imagine a creature of preference…would you believe it was a smaller version of Cerberus a few years back?) and have a “conversation” with him. Of course I throw my voice and imagine he’s talking to me, but in so doing, I get in touch with a “sensible” part of myself, one that is calming and understanding, knowing it to be me and finding the love in myself that can heal me, even if I’m personifying it externally. This also works when I write my stories. 🙂

    In this process, I don’t talk TO the thought–I talk ABOUT the thought, openly. I bring it out in the open (a sort of release, maybe?), talk about it to my imaginary friend (re: me), and contemplate on why it’s so painful, why it had to exist in the first place, and the pain about thinking about it. The “self-understanding” that follows (“I totally understand,” “Ugh, that’s horrible,” “That should never have happened,” “These things are not worth concentrating on, Marc”) can help tons, and deal with it moderately well, though it doesn’t mean the pain doesn’t come back later.

    So while I’m not sure your method works for me, I definitely appreciate and will try it, even more the comments on the heart that you see in me. 🙂 I am so mindful of my “dark self”, that it’s easy for me to forget about the light that exists in me. I like to wonder, am I the candle itself, whereas all I can see is darkness, but that’s only because the light is me? (Nah, that would mean the darkness is illuminated…ugh, I suck at building effective metaphors)

    Well, whatever is going on through my jumbly head right now, I thank you from the bottom of my heart for YOU, for simply existing, and for being happy for my existence. 🙂 Rest assured that I will never stop loving and hopefully add to life. And if you ever see a top-hat-wearing walrus in your travels, be sure to introduce yourself, as I promise to hold you close to my heart for a good five minutes, if not longer. <3

    All my love, care, and gratitude, ALWAYS,

    — Marc/Royce

    #72956
    Pamela
    Participant

    Marc,
    I actually did enjoy “My big fat greek wedding” because it is different from other movies of the same genre. I just get tired of the attitude that “because I’m a girl I HAVE to like chick flicks (typically they are the romantic comedies or movies such as the notebook (which I refuse to watch, ever.)).”

    I love and appreciate everyone for their individuality, so big wonderful walrus hugs right back to you! If I ever see you around, I’ll be sure to give you a hug! You are such a wonderful, kind person. I can tell this from your posts. Have a blessed day!

    -Pamela

    #72997
    Marc
    Participant

    Hey Pamela,

    I completely understand. I love video games, but don’t think of myself as a true “gamer” per se, and have NEVER truly fit in with other gamers or most of my own generation. I get shocked looks from peers when I say that I hated “Dogma” and most superhero movies, so I completely understand how you feel regarding chick flicks. I refuse to see The Notebook, either, though I no doubt believe it’s a wonderful movie. I get emotional enough in REAL LIFE…so I really don’t need a movie to make things worse. :-/

    One of the bright sides of this whole thing was that it pushed me to avoid the upcoming “Deadpool” movie. As much as I love the character for how silly, funny, and trope-killing as he is, he’s also exceedingly violent, so if I couldn’t handle Kingsman, I doubt I’ll be able to handle Deadpool. I’m only depressed for how it separates me further from my peers. Maybe I’ll watch some Marx Brothers in retaliation or something (and I’m blessed to know others who share THAT interest. 😉 ).

    Thank you thank you THANK YOU for your loving compliments and patience with me! It is truly a healthy, good forum like this (and awesome people like you) that gently heal me from any hurt. I will be sure to come back here in the future (hopefully to HELP as well as be helped), and if you’re in Pittsburgh around July 9-12, come visit and give the walrus a hug!! 😀 Blessed be!

    — Royce/Marc

    #73028
    Pamela
    Participant

    Well, I won’t be as July 9 is my birthday and I already have plans. But I will think about you and send you some cyber hugs! Much Love!

    #73054
    Will
    Participant

    Man, you are fab.

    Those conversations you’re having with yourself sound totally helpful, and not even remotely weird. Maybe you could have your ‘imaginary friend’ talk to the thought, while you hide or take notes (in your mind, obvs). That’s called using a proxy, and while I’ve never done it, it sounds like it might suit you.

    Speaking of things that might suit you: I really like the fluent self blog. You should wander into the archives rather than trying to the most recent posts (they can be a little hard to get into), but have a look if you feel like it. http://www.fluentself.com/

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