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Happy when I’m with my boyfriend, but upset when we’re not together?

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  • #435833
    anita
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    How are you, t? I wonder what you think of the last 2 replies that you received..

    anita

    #435835
    t
    Participant

    Hi Roberta and Anita –

    Thank you so much for your replies. To clarify, these plans were a text conversation that took place over two days. I do think I have been pressing him a lot, but in many cases I’ve been glad I have. I thought this particular conversation was beneficial because he explained that he didn’t understand why I wanted him to be honest instead of giving an excuse. And I hopefully was able to explain my side to him.

    I’ve been reflecting a lot on some other issues that I pushed him to reveal and am seriously reconsidering the relationship. One was that (NSFW) he mentioned that he often felt terrible after having sex in the mornings, like he wasted the entire day. And he began avoiding spending time with me to avoid this problem. In the past, we had many conversations about how I felt he wasn’t spending time with me, and he told me that he was just slightly depressed, bad at planning, etc so I feel blindsided by this. We were both initiating sex, and when I initiate I always explicitly ask for consent.

    He has said that it wasn’t that he didn’t want sex, but that it made him feel unproductive and lazy afterwards. And he told me he would tell me if he ever truly didn’t want sex. These types of distinctions seem very important to him – actually a similar communication issue to when we were making plans. (“It wasn’t that I didn’t want to go to your plans, it was that I was tired and didn’t feel like doing the planned activity. I would tell you if I actually didn’t want to do something.”) I am trying to understand his perspective but really struggling.

    I have felt very hurt and guilty in the last few days. I’m second guessing a lot of things he’s told me. I don’t think he has ever had any intent to deceive me, but as you said Anita, has some conflict avoidant habits that are creating problems and triggering my anxieties. I’m not sure how to move forwards.

    #435837
    anita
    Participant

    Dear t:

    You are welcome!  “He told me he would tell me if he ever truly didn’t want sex. These types of distinctions seem very important to him… ‘It wasn’t that I didn’t want to go to your plans, it was that I was tired and didn’t feel like doing the planned activity. I would tell you if I actually didn’t want to do something.’) I am trying to understand his perspective but really struggling“- reads to me like his emotions are repressed or suppressed (pushed down), and he has trouble understanding what it is that he is feeling, that he is aware when he definitely doesn’t want to do something, but he is unsure if and when he does want to do something.

    He explained that he didn’t understand why I wanted him to be honest instead of giving an excuse“-  I am guessing that dissociated, he doesn’t know what he is feeling much of the time. Therefore,  emotional honesty is not possible for him much of the time.

    I don’t think he has ever had any intent to deceive me, but as you said Anita, has some conflict avoidant habits that are creating problems and triggering my anxieties. I’m not sure how to move forwards.“- I agree: doesn’t seem like he lied to you. I remember when I was seriously dissociated: I really didn’t know what I felt, what I wanted, couldn’t even decide on what flavor ice-cream I wanted.

    he mentioned that he often felt terrible after having sex in the mornings, like he wasted the entire day“- dissociated and numb much of the time, the intense emotions involved in having sex exhaust him, is my guess, similar to a person who is inactive and out of shape running a marathon: exhausting!

    Do you think this is the case?

    anita

    #435838
    anita
    Participant

    (the paragraph spacing change is not my choice, don’t know why or how it happens)

    #435887
    t
    Participant

    Hi Anita

    I think this is a great analysis. We’ve talked about this topic very generally, and he’s aware of it, at least a little. He’s pretty emotionally disconnected and tells me he often doesn’t know what he’s feeling until after the emotion has passed. I’m not sure about the sex bit because he has no worries having sex at night. Maybe he feels better because it’s late, dark, we are sometimes a little drunk, and all that makes it easier to handle.

    I think maybe he’s found this relationship unexpectedly demanding (his only other relationship was long distance and they only saw each other a few times a year), and he hasn’t been able to fully cope. And I am very sensitive and anxious to begin with, so I haven’t handled it well either. I’m bothered by how much has been lurking and have been feeling very emotional and pessimistic lately.

    #435891
    anita
    Participant

    Dear t:

    He’s pretty emotionally disconnected and tells me he often doesn’t know what he’s feeling until after the emotion has passed… I think maybe he’s found this relationship unexpectedly demanding“- the relationship demand more of him, emotionally, than he can deliver, being that he is emotionally disconnected.

    I am very sensitive and anxious to begin with, so I haven’t handled it well either. I’m bothered by how much has been lurking and have been feeling very emotional and pessimistic lately.“- tell me more about you feeling very emotional and pessimistic lately.. is it how you felt growing up with your mother?

    I find that having lived through a difficult/ traumatic childhood, people- as adults- keep re-living the same childhood emotional experience in adult circumstances. Do you find this to be true?

    anita

    #436046
    t
    Participant

    Hi Anita,

    It’s funny I think there are many similarities with how I felt growing up, but I was very emotionally numb as a child and have mostly successfully avoided my mother as an adult. I have never experienced this kind of outward emotional instability with crying and everything.

    The biggest similarity I see is that my boyfriend, like my mother, has good intentions. He never intends to hurt me but hurts me anyways. Then it’s followed by lots of reassurance – affection, “I love yous,” talks about fun things we’ll do in the future. A very similar pattern to my mother, though of course the arguments were different (my boyfriend has not yelled at me or anything like that).

    #436055
    anita
    Participant

    Dear t:

    I was very emotionally numb as a child and have mostly successfully avoided my mother as an adult. I have never experienced this kind of outward emotional instability with crying and everything“- the pushed down crying and everything was there within you since childhood, it’s just that it recently rose to the surface.

    In your original post, you wrote: “When we aren’t spending time together I am extremely emotional in ways I have never experienced before“- I think that long ago, as a child, you experienced being extremely emotional before you instinctively pushed that extreme emotionality down below your full awareness (repressed ad suppressed it), resulting in feeling numb.

    The biggest similarity I see is that my boyfriend, like my mother, has good intentions. He never intends to hurt me but hurts me anyways“- my mother, who behaved similarly to yours, repeatedly told me that her intentions were always good. It confused me a whole lot: why do (supposed) good intentions hurt so much? It is only within the last few years that I understood- finally- that what she told me so many times wasn’t true.

    Lets look at what you shared July 30: “Growing up my mother never communicated but expected me to read her mind and anticipate her moods and needs. If I didn’t do this, she would blow up and yell, throw things, etc.“- when she blew up, yelled, threw things, etc., she was angry, wasn’t she? What is the motivation/ intention behind anger (in animals, not only in humans), if not to hurt (or to threaten to hurt) the object of one’s anger?

    Back to your recent post: “Then it’s followed by lots of reassurance – affection, ‘I love yous,’ talks about fun things we’ll do in the future. A very similar pattern to my mother, though of course the arguments were different (my boyfriend has not yelled at me or anything like that).“- once your mother was done expressing and releasing her anger against you (however temporarily), she tried to make it up to you, to sort of, undo her violence with I-love-yous, etc., wasn’t she?

    That’s what my mother did. I think that she was trying to make herself feel better: to feel like a good, loving mother (her preferrable image of herself), following her verbal and physical violence against me.

    But your boyfriend, exhibiting no violence against you, when he is being reassuring and affectionate- he is trying to make you feel better. A different pattern, different motivation?

    anita

     

    #436093
    Roberta
    Participant

    Hi t

    Is your boyfriend a morning person? Does he have a routines & likes to get things done  & by a certain time?

    Some people have or been brought up with an overly strong work ethic therefore basking in the afterglow of morning lovemaking may leave him feeling guilty & conflicted.

    regards roberta

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