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  • #52850
    Elka
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    Hi all,
    I have been reading the articles and posts on this site for a little while now and I really appreciate this resource. It’s so meaningful to me to see a big beautiful community of people sharing and consciously strive to improve and find joy.
    I have been plagued by something I set in motion a few years back. About 6 years ago a male friend of mine, whom I thought I had a good friendship with, started dating a woman that I have never really liked. I thought she was interesting and kind of cool on our first meeting, but it did not take long for me to see how she was uncomfortable with my friendship with him and insisted on being included in everything we had going on. I started to feel that she was cold and passive-aggressive towards me, all the while insisting that she liked me and wanted to be friends with me too. I just never really felt like it was genuine, but I really tried to give her the benefit of the doubt. All the while my friend would be talking to me and anyone who would listen about how ambivalent he was about their relationship and how he wasn’t that into her. It just got weird and I started to feel like the quality of my friendship with this man really got to a place where it was only at a superficial level. We just didn’t relate or share stories like we once did. I thought things would just resolve themselves once he came to his senses and dumped her, but then decided to move in together a few years back. I really started to realize I was unhappy about the state of my friendship with him and instead of handling it in a constructive and mature way I began to pull away from them and gradually froze them out of my life. I stopped taking invitations to go for drinks and birthday parties. I know they wondered for a while what was going on (mutual friends would tell me this), but I did not talk to him about it. The last time I saw him was about a year ago and it was one rare time that he was out without her and at that point I just knew things couldn’t go back to the way they were. At the time I just didn’t see a way to fix it. I just hit a point where I didn’t want to be around them or be part of social circle that seemed to be designed to hold them together. Today I feel guilt about the fact that I have done this knowing that I have hurt him and even her. I don’t have any desire to have them back in my life, but I do judge myself harshly for deliberately doing this, I’m in my 30s, I thought I was getting a little old for this silliness. I am also still friends with people that continue to befriend them so it does get a little awkward at times.
    I have been doing a lot of work on myself over the last few years and have come to realize how much suppressed resentment and anger I had to work through towards myself and many people, although I feel like I have made a lot of gains and forgiven myself and others for many things, I still feel awful about this.
    I just wanted to share, I used to spend so much time thinking about how hurt I felt by them and now I am thinking about how I have hurt them in my efforts to project myself and purge clutter and drama from my life.
    No one tells you how to break up with a friend, I thought they just ebb and flow and fade away naturally when they don’t work. I feel badly about how much I have botched this and likely made things awkward for my friends who do still see them.
    Thanks for reading. Take care and love to you all!
    Elka

    #52855
    The Ruminant
    Participant

    Hi Elka!

    I have personally noticed something about forgiving past things. I have also worked on myself a lot for the past couple of years and a lot of things have been resolved. I personally had accumulated a lot of stuff I didn’t want to deal with, but it was always at the back of my mind, weighing heavy on me. The more stuff I accumulated, the heavier my life got, until I couldn’t take it anymore and things started unraveling. During this unraveling, I all of a sudden remembered all kinds of things I had done in the past and I felt so ashamed and guilty. Just random flashbacks from different events where I behaved in a way I shouldn’t have. With some of those things I knew I had felt guilty on that occasion already, and with some other things, I knew that I was behaving in that way, because I didn’t know any better.

    Looking back, I think it was easier to start forgiveness from the events where I didn’t know any better (self-destructive behavior, being really defensive when there was no need, etc.) I still wasn’t able to forgive myself for some other things, even when I tried. My mind was stuck with them. So I left them at that and just focused on all the new good stuff in my life: the fact that I was able to calm my brain and not think all the time, and that I was really starting to love myself and have healthy boundaries. Now, I have started noticing that I have forgiven myself for some of the things that were still really bothering me a while ago.

    I don’t know why that is, but I have some thoughts on the matter:
    -Perhaps I had accumulated so much stuff, that I couldn’t work on one specific case, but I just had to let the mountain of issues to unravel and wait until it was time for that one specific event to dissolve from the back of my mind. Kind of like having a mountain of clutter in your closet and you’re trying to get to the one at the back and remove that first. You can’t, so you have to give it time and first get through the stuff that’s in front of it.

    -Perhaps my thoughts on forgiveness still revolved around wanting to change the past. That unconsciously, when thinking about the events, I went into this mode where I was trying to change it, now that I had gained so much power over myself. I foolishly thought that I was able to change who I was in the past as well. I really am not sure, as this would’ve been rather unconscious thinking, but it’s a possibility.

    -Perhaps it just required time away from thinking about it. That I was ready to forgive myself, but I needed to let that sink in.

    I also think that it’s good to see things in the big picture. You are thinking that you’re making things awkward for other people, but first of all, you are not responsible for the feelings of others, and secondly, even though this issue is taking a disproportionate amount of time in your thoughts, it might not be the same for others. So don’t be so hard on yourself. You did what you thought was the best at that time. I know I have at least one person I don’t want to be involved with, and while I would be ready to tell her why, if she hunt me down and asked me, I’m not willing to go out of my way to reach out to her to actually tell her why I don’t want her in my life. In my mind, it’s the lesser of two evils for both of us. Whether that’s true or not, I don’t know. I do know that for as long as I am still learning how to hold onto healthy boundaries, she is a bad person to have around, because not only does she have none, she rams through everyone else’s on a whim. But this post isn’t about me 🙂

    So…be compassionate towards yourself about the whole thing. If you’re not ready to be able to forgive yourself yet, then forgive yourself for not being able to forgive yourself 🙂

    #52871
    E. Buddha
    Participant

    A little tough love for you Elka:

    So six years your friend began a relationship with someone you did not really like, so you dumped him as a friend.
    If that is all it takes then your friendship was probably not so great to begin with.
    If you feel guilty about it, that might make sense given that you cut off your friend who really did nothing to you other than continue a relationship you did not approve of.
    Not only that but you never communicated to your friend about it in six years, and made things awkward in your social group.
    Six years is a long time to hold a grudge. Under one year I would advise talking it out with the friend, but if I were in your friends position, I would be stunned to hear you carried about this negative feeling toward me for six years without a word.

    You say they hurt you but I don’t see you as the victim here. You dont need to forgive yourself, you need to look into what you have done and how it has affected others, and understand why you made their relationship about you.

    How would you feel if you were in that situation.

    #52872
    The Ruminant
    Participant

    You and I have a very different ideas about what tough love is 🙂 Tough love, in my opinion, is holding up the mirror without passing judgement. Was the original post triggering to you? She’s aware of handling the situation in a bad way, so guilt tripping isn’t really needed here. Or ever, really.

    #52929
    Elka
    Participant

    Thank you Ruminant for your thoughtful reply, I really appreciate it.

    #52930
    Elka
    Participant

    Yes, I acknowledge that this was not the outcome of a great friendship, and I do admit that I have had difficulties with holding onto grudges. It is something I will continue to work through and I know I would not have felt good to be on the receiving end of these actions. I have omitted quite a bit from my first sharing of my situation, but it doesn’t really matter, I do know I did wrong and that it was selfish.
    I appreciate the honesty in your analysis.

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