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  • #44851
    Alby
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    Now that you’ve heard the attention grabber, let me rewind a little bit and give you some background information.

    We’re both in our twenties. When we met a year ago, my head spun around in circles and my eyeballs turned into little hearts. I was smitten. He was sweet, considerate, thoughtful, loyal, punctual… he wanted to meet my friends and family; he wanted to introduce me to his. I basically felt like I was living the epilogue to any Disney princess movie.

    But, as usual, the fairy tale doesn’t last forever. We both have enough baggage to fill the Grand Canyon. We’re both kinda messed up. We’re both very opinionated people… but we have the opposite opinion on, like, EVERYTHING. We’ve had some pretty big fights. We’ve said and done some pretty mean things to each other: slight infidelity on my part, his refusal to cut out his ex completely… I won’t bore you with details. We basically have a lot of issues. BUT, through it all, we both genuinely care about each other and have always decided to keep trying. Bottom line: the good stuff has always been worth putting up with the bad stuff.

    Until now. Like I said, we met a year ago, and have dated officially for nine months. Nine months is a long time. A year is even longer. And as we got closer and closer to that anniversary, I started to wonder, “umm… why haven’t we said, ‘I love you?'” Of course me being me, I didn’t wonder long… I asked him point blank: “are you in love with me, or what?!”

    That’s when he gave me that delightful line: “I love you as a person… I’m just not in love with you yet.” Oh, we fought. We fought hard. Well, I fought. He mostly sat there, powerless against my wrath, and tried to insist that he wanted to keep trying, that he was capable of feeling love, and that he just had his guard up because of our rocky courtship.

    Now here’s the part where I’m probably going to lose any sympathy y’all had for me: I’m not in love with him. I’m not. Mostly because he isn’t in love with me. As soon as he said those words, the Great Wall of China erected around my vulnerable little heart. (Remember, we BOTH have tons of baggage and trust issues). All of the safety and trust that we had spent months building was violated in an instant, and it was like a bucket of ice cold water to the face. For me, being in love with someone is based in security… and when that rug was ripped out from under my feet, I felt completely humiliated and insecure.

    Still, I’m madly in love with the potential our relationship has… with the possibility of us both evolving into better versions of ourselves. I do LOVE him like crazy… I think that, when he tries, he can be so compassionate and sweet and caring. He’s the first guy that’s taken the time to actually understand me and how I work. Remember that scene in Shrek, where he says “ogres are like onions… they have layers!” Well, I have layers. Stinky layers. And this guy has gone through all of them tenderly and lovingly. (Yes, I meant to say lovingly. Because he has been tender and loving and patient and affectionate with me.)

    I want us to work so much. We BOTH want us to work. Because when we’re both at our best, we’re amazing together. But the problem is, since this “I’m not in love” revelation, I have such a bruised ego that I’m at my worst… which makes him at his worst… which makes us not work. We’ve been in constant turmoil… me, nitpicking everything he does wrong, and him shutting down emotionally because I’m being a crazy nitpicker. So right now, he needs to see a supportive, loving, GOOD side of me. But after what he said, I can’t find it within myself to put aside the hurt and BE the GOOD he needs to see. So as a result, we’re in a vicious cycle.

    HELP. What do I do?! Can anyone offer insight on this mayhem?! I really need guidance… advise… suggestions. Have you struggled with this? Have you walked this walk? Do I stay in this relationship? How do I find the strength and security to keep trying, when we’re missing something so important? Argh it drives me crazy. I really have no idea what to do.

    #44852
    Kate
    Participant

    When I read your post it felt like reading my own story. I have been in a relationship with a wonderful man for a little over a year and despite the fact that I love him I am not in love with him. I have driven myself crazy with why this is….and since I have discovered that what makes sense in the mind (and sometimes even the heart) when it comes to love can not be explained or controlled. Just like in your relationship all those little things, like meeting friends, family and being part of each others lives are perfect and very crucial for both of us. It’s what makes the relationship work so well. But somewhere deep down I realize that those small and big differences in opinion are just as important and will eventually break us. In the end NO matter how much you love each other…..LOVE is not enough to make a relationship successful, happy and fulfilling. Usually its a combination of qualities we consider crucial and unfortunately it differs for each person.

    I have no answer of whether you should stay in the relationship or keep trying. But what I can tell you is that I have been trying for several months and my feelings remain exactly the same. However much you care, respect or are in awe of each other that spark/flame/tingle of being in love will always be missing. We also faced a period of cold war fighting and eventually had to talk about it. I have been blessed enough to tell my partner how I feel and we have tried to make it work despite my “missing” feelings. We also REALLY want us to work.

    But the truth is its been a constant and huge sacrifice on my part as I know I will never be in love with him the way he deserves. So often I have felt I have a soul connection with this man….that deep understanding he has of your “layers” as you call them. But is it truly enough to satisfy me for the rest of your life? All the fighting and uncertainty you will always carry in that relationship. Its just all sooooo complicated. We sometimes forget that being in love is just as important as loving that person. Its was makes you wanna wake up next to them, share every story, celebrate every success. For me and my needs I believe that if the spark is missing I will never be 100% happy or satisfied even if he puts out the trash every day and is amazing to my family. My best advice to you is; figure out what qualities of the relationship it is you can’t live without and see how that aligns with what he needs. Because only when those qualities align do we find ourselves in truly happy relationships.

    Don’t be afraid to leave the comfort zone of a happy relationship if you feel something is missing, rather trust yourself to know what’s right for you. I wish you the best of luck and remember to be kind with yourself and your partner.

    #44853
    Lindsay
    Participant

    To me, it sounds like neither of you is willing to trust each other or yourselves enough to be vulnerable. When you unleashed your wrath (don’t worry, I’ve done it too), it was entirely a coverup. I strongly suspect that you felt vulnerable and scared that he didn’t love you. And instead of owning those heart-wrenching emotions, and admitting them to yourself and to your bf, you took the easy route and blew up. It is ALWAYS easier to be angry than vulnerable. Always.

    One of the reasons that most people aren’t willing to be vulnerable, is not only the pain of being rejected; it is the pain of wondering if you are being rejected because something inherent in you is “wrong” or not worthy of being loved. It’s not just “when I showed him who I really am, he decided I wasn’t right for him” — because in your head it becomes “I showed him who I really am and he decided he didn’t love because who could love me in all this mess. And if he doesn’t love me because of this, no one else will.” So, up the walls go. I think being emotionally honest and present (with yourself AND with another person) is the hardest thing to do. No exaggeration — I am light years away from accomplishing this, but I’m happy that I’ve finally learned this and I can work on it.

    I think that the way to fix it, and to give your relationship a real shot, is to learn to trust yourself first. You need to get to a point where you *understand* (not just logically, but in your heart and in your gut) that no matter how much baggage you have, how much struggle you have, you are complete and whole and wonderful. You have to *understand* that no matter what struggles come your way (including a break up), you are worthy of love and belonging. Once you trust this, once you trust WHO you ARE, it is easier to lower the walls. Because at that point, your self-worth isn’t on the line.

    On a personal note, my ex and I broke up because he couldn’t decide whether he loved me. We were together for a year and a half (We’ve been broken up for two years now). I loved him, and had been patient for too long — and yes, he had a ton of baggage. I wasn’t okay with the status quo, so I ended it. I stand by that decision. But in retrospect, I would have handled things differently before we broke up. After we had been together for around 9 months (like you), and he wasn’t sure if he loved me, I pulled away from him. I didn’t realize at the time that I pulled away, but I did. I was protecting myself. But that move of pulling away kept our relationship stagnant — so there was not growth between 9 months and 1.5 years. Now, if I hadn’t pulled away, the end result may have been the exact same. I’m fully aware of that. But I do know that he cared about me a lot, and how can you expect someone to love you if you aren’t willing to really show yourself to that person? If you aren’t willing to trust that person to care about you in your most vulnerable and honest state? If you aren’t willing to trust that you are enough, in all your messy glory, even if the relationship fails? He never saw me in a really vulnerable state. I wasn’t willing to risk it. The potential costs were too high for me at the time.

    I don’t regret how things played out. I think we didn’t trust ourselves or each other enough to sustain a relationship. But I have learned a lot from it in retrospect and I hope to handle things in future relationships different than I did at the time. I hope I’m willing to keep my walls downs even when I feel vulnerable, and to face those scary situations by being honest with myself and my partner. Good luck.

    #44858
    Simon
    Participant

    Hi Alby,
    You say you love each other but are not in love with each other. Can you give your love to him or are you in love with the idea of being in love? Do you love yourself? Can you accept you as you are? Are you comfortable just being? Or do you feel you should be different or need to become someone better?
    When we first meet someone things can seem great at the beginning but then the cracks start to show. It is easy to find ourselves wanting to believe that the other person completes us, that they meet all the needs that we had before we met them and initially you can be on a high as those needs appear to be fulfilled. But as the reality starts to dawn we can begin to feel empty again and it is easy to blame the other for not meeting our own needs. Is that fair?
    I truly believe that you both have a lot of love to give, but how can you have the energy to love another if you can’t yet love yourself, accept yourself and accept that all your ‘baggage’ is in the past but does not define who you are in this moment. When you are able to be fully in the present you can be comfortable just being rather than feeling you need to assume an identity you have put upon yourself ( a good side or a bad side or a role) as a result of the expectations you have formed about yourself and others from pressures of society, other people and past events.
    I am coming out of a divorce and am finally beginning to accept myself and feel comfortable to just be rather than feeling I need to be something or someone or with someone in order to feel complete. I have found mindfulness and therapy have really helped. When you start to have love for yourself you realise that when people seem to attack or defend it is because they feel vulnerable and they need to be able to love themselves. When you can finally accept you as you are then you can really start to accept others for who they are (if their opinions are different that’s ok, it doesn’t stop your opinions also being valid), and truly let your love flow from within.
    It takes time and it is important not to force things but if you focus on healing yourself you will be able to help others heal themselves. You are already both perfect as you are, you just don’t believe it yet.

    #44877
    Danielle
    Participant

    Hi Alby!

    I’m incredibly grateful for this post, and all of the responses. It’s refreshing to know that I am not the only person who has dealt with this (also a little creepy because it was like you were in my head!)

    I haven’t quite figured out my situation yet, and it’s going on two years. We’re not quite dating, not not dating, head over heels for each other, all in a dysfunctional way. I have a luggage cart of emotional baggage, and he has an entire hotel’s worth. So it gets a bit tricky, especially when I do like you and pull away at the first chance of being vulnerable. I find myself also playing off of his emotions “he’s not in love with me? Then I’m not in love with him!” I’ve also nitpicked every action and took WAYYYY too much personally. But yet, we keep trying to power through it.

    You mentioned your bottom line being the good always outweighing the bad, and that really struck me. That’s basically my personal motto with my crazy relationship, and I think it’s something that is very important. If you look at things from that perspective, what does it really matter that you haven’t told each other you love one another? Who cares if it’s been 3 months or 3 years..the important thing to remember here is- are you happy? And more importantly, are you happy with him?

    I absolutely 100% understand the need for wanting to hear the words. Believe me. But perhaps look at things from an alternate perspective. Maybe the way you asked him, freaked him out. Maybe admitting to you, and himself, that he has deep feelings for someone terrifies him. Based on what you’ve said about the way you guys began, coupled with the emotional baggage, it’ seems the likely case. If he’s patiently stood by you while working through those stinky layers, he’s in it for the long haul. I think that speaks volumes.

    My guy also somewhat demanded an answer of how I felt for him out of me and I can honestly say, it freaked me out and I said opposite of what I meant. I spoke rashly and thought only of protecting myself, and not the total outcome. This caused him to respond in a negative manner as well, leading to a huge fight (because even though I bruised his ego with my dishonest response, MY own ego was bruised now: “how could he NOT love me??!?”) and an awkward few weeks. But we worked through it, and I’m glad we did.

    My long winded response to this may or may not have helped, but what I’m basically trying to say is: if you’re happy, what does it matter. Someone can say they love you and not mean it (and vice versa!) but if his actions and his compassion and his affection are there, then that should be proof enough. When he’s finally worked through his own walls, he will say it the right way. But I don’t think you should walk away and not give him that chance.

    Good luck 🙂

    #44894
    Alby
    Participant

    Thank you, everyone, for your insightful replies. I really enjoyed reading all the different perspectives, because I was able to relate and gather from each one.

    Lindsay, your response particularly resonated with me; I fear that my relationship may suffer a similar fate, crumbling as we both pull away because of our own insecurities. It’s just like you said: how can I continue to be my best self when I feel like I’m blowing air into a balloon that has a huge hole in it? I kind of feel like my boyfriend and I are two little kids staring at a huge swimming pool on a hot summer day, each daring the other to be the first to jump in. Kind of a sad analogy to apply to something that’s supposed to be sacred and wonderful, right?

    I really appreciated what Danielle said, too… Could it be that I demanded love prematurely? After all, my ability to be “in love” with him hinges on whether or not he provides ME with the security and confidence of love in return… I’m worried that maybe I asked to see his cards too soon, and I should have waited until we had played a few more rounds before I asked him to put it all on the table. As you pointed out, he does treat me well, and his actions do demonstrate love… shouldn’t that mean more than a four letter word? (Ok, it totally doesn’t feel that way.)

    #59732
    lost
    Participant

    So,
    I really need help detangling the confusion in my mindabout 3&a half years ago I met my husbandI was kind of out playing the field and trying to get a feel for what was out there after ending a long term relationshipI had absolutely no intention of falling in love with my husband but once I met him everything was over for me all the other guys needed to go and I wanted him to stay at the beginning of our relationship everything was normal lovey dove and he seemed head over heals he was clingy and always concerned. Now I full expected that to die off as it did and that’s OK to a point. Two months after being together I did end up prego. even though I thought at the time I could it ended up I just had to keep the baby it was not an attempt to keep him traped. I just could not do do the alternative I did have two children already from my previous relationship and he was great to them (still is) everything was ok HOWEVER things quickly started to change rather it was him freaking out or feeling like now he had to stay or my hormones from being prego there was alway a lot of talk of breaking up. We never could actually do it so I’ll take you a few years ahead last year we moved our whole family across the country because I wanted to be closer to my mother (where we were I had no family all his family was there but not close to me at all so I was always scared if something happened I’d be alone with my children) so we move out here and I’m kinda getting tired of playing house and I feel like its time to get married he asked about a year prior after all my not so subtle hints. So there was basic lyrics a big fight because he said he wasn’t ready but I said I don’t care now or we need to be done. So he did. To the court house we went and signed the papers and that’s just about as much love there was to it. I always thought he would come around and tell me I deserved more let’s reschedule do it but I can’t tell the thought never crossed his mind. Hes kinda like there fine I did it shut up. A year after that here I am wondering what’s going on and the main reason for that is because over the last 3.5 years he has told me countless times through serious conversations or arguments that he loves me but it’s “all the way in love with me and says things like I’m try to be in love with you I’m learning” and my point is why stick around for the baby I guess he’s a good guy why move across country cause he’s a good guy why marry me just let me go then right? We always spent a lot of time together but would fight 1 time a month or 2 always over the same thing do you love me or not kinda thing I would make it easy for him I would never hurt him so I don’t understand why if I’m telling I understand if I’m not the one for you will he not let me go if he knows he’s not in love I personally feel like after almost 4 years you should no and if you don’t then clear you dont. Hes a wonderful man and I would take the hit on my heart if it mentioned him going and truly being happy with someone and I’ve told him this and he engages in the idea for a little bit but then comes to me and tells me he is in love with me then things go back to normal and again he accidentally says something like I’m trying to be in love with you and it just messes with my head what do I do do I walk away ? He even told me recently that he would rather stay for the next 10 years until the kids are old enough to understand and then move onso I’m like okay are you staying for the kids because I don’t feel like that is fair I’m playing for keeps I would like someone to be there after my kids are gone once we have our life back and it can be about us again I do not want to give someone the best years of my life and then have to try and find someone when I’m all old and Winkly I’m head over heals for him but I now feel myself pulling away because I feel I’ve worked so hard to be what he dreams of and I’m exhausted because after all this time it’s gotten me nowhereI do feel like I have been trying to earn the love of a man and it is an endless road with no reward at the endthere is many more details if any questions come up to help anyone figure this out with me

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