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November 25, 2024 at 2:30 am #439670Rising FlowerParticipant
Dear Anita,
You are the most empathetic person I have come across and this carefully thought response of yours is one more proof for me personally.
I want to add a correction on my beliefs and destiny . I’m not a great believer of God(while is still believe there is a super power Guiding this world in the form of.people doing good deeds, animals, Nature et but what I meant by my sentence is that we broke up several times against my(and his wishes) from the past 12 years and still somethig is bringing us together . This is happening despite many odds in the circumstances like me neither being bossed with him nor he caring enough to read my feelings or for that matter went and married someone even as a rebound rrelationship. I really at one point admired his courage by taking a different step showcasing progressiveness (which in another angle is destructing our relationship which could have been easily fixed according to my friends and family too i meant the most rational thing i agree as well). So this brings to another whole point you rightly wrote about , UNCONDITIONAL LOVE. I hVe a feeling for several years that this is what making me stuck to him despite all his wrong doings. Im.not saying he is a bad perosn but I’m mentioning only for the context of the story and where our problems strayed such as him disregarding my feelings, making unreasonable requests like asking for kids whne I was not ready nor the circumstances areabsolitely not suitable, trying to control me whol to speak and what to speak, stopping me from doing my hobbies so I could love him.more or avoid making new friends).
I did every possible thing to cut ties in my heart but they call come and stop at one point…” its ok may be he did it with a different mind or he is like that if not me who will understand him and excuse him” or in that direction .
Its like I have every damn gokd thing in my life to be happy but I’m not coz my heart is always excusing him.and being on an endless life loop..I would be fine even if I’m obsessive of him or have great burning desire to be with him at any cost by breaking his massive etc. Im not even like that but just melts for his words and say yes..
I began to lose hope on my personal life..while I’m emotionally strong and independent I’m unable to see myself aging and still not enjoying anything that I thought could be easily achievable..
Thank you for listening to me.
November 25, 2024 at 8:03 am #439677RobertaParticipantDear Rising Flower
making unreasonable requests like asking for kids whne I was not ready nor the circumstances areabsolitely not suitable, trying to control me whol to speak and what to speak, stopping me from doing my hobbies so I could love him.more or avoid making new friends). These are all red flags and signs of abusive & coercive behaviour.
Please try to spend more time with supportive family & friends building fun & strong relationship with them to help fill the void that you are currently in. Nature animals hobbies & volunteering are healthy pursuits, yes it may take some considerable time to detox from L, but it will be worth it . I hope you meet someone who will allow you to flourish and that you are emotionally & physically attracted to so that L becomes a distant memory which is more in line with your statement I’m emotionally strong and independent .
November 25, 2024 at 11:07 am #439679anitaParticipantDear Rising Flower:
You are welcome, and thank you for your kind words. There’s a smile on my face right now because of the sentiment behind your words.
“I’m not a great believer of God… but I believe there is a super power guiding this world”– you express a belief in a higher power, though not necessarily in a traditional religious sense. This belief influences your view that there is a force guiding your relationship.
“We broke up several times against my (and his) wishes from the past 12 years and still something is bringing us together”– Despite repeated breakups, you feel an inexplicable force that keeps reuniting you with L. This cycle suggests a strong, albeit tumultuous, emotional bond.
“This brings to another whole point… UNCONDITIONAL LOVE”– you acknowledge that your deep, unconditional love for him keeps you in the relationship despite his wrongdoings. This love is a double-edged sword, providing strength but also binding you to an unhealthy dynamic.
“Disregarding my feelings, making unreasonable requests… trying to control me”– you list several significant issues, including emotional neglect, unreasonable demands, and attempts to control you. These behaviors are detrimental to your well-being and autonomy.
“I did every possible thing to cut ties in my heart but… my heart is always excusing him”– Despite your efforts to move on, you find yourself continually making excuses for his behavior, unable to fully sever emotional ties.
“I have every damn good thing in my life to be happy, but I’m not… my heart is always excusing him”– you recognize the good aspects of your life but feel trapped in an emotional loop that prevents you from fully enjoying it. Your ongoing emotional conflict with L hinders your happiness.
“I began to lose hope on my personal life… while I’m emotionally strong and independent”– you are strong and independent..
A thought occurred to me just now for the first time. I’ll express it following bringing together some of the things you shared starting in your original post (I will boldface some of what you shared for emphasis): “I was married in an arranged setup… in my late twenties… as a naïve girl who never was into any kind of relationships to a very nice guy who is very kind and caring. I never had any issues with him… Within less than 2 years of my marriage I fell for a family friend… So I walked out of my marriage… Even though L has done so many wrong things to me and my life, I’m still accepting him in my heart. It’s not even a matter of self-worth, I have several good men in my life who genuinely want to be in my life… it has been 11+ years into this relationship… his circumstances are not allowing him to come into my life… being on an endless life loop.. I would be fine even if I’m obsessive of him or have great burning desire to be with him at any cost… I’m not even like that but just melts for his words and say yes… while I’m emotionally strong and independent“-
– Now in your late 30s, you had very little experience, overall, with romantic relationships, and none before your late 20s. When you finally got married (through arranged marriage, not by choice), despite being married to a kind and caring man, you found yourself making the drastic decision to leave your short marriage, going against your parents, friends and society. This indicates to me that you really, really wanted out of the marriage.
And then, despite recognizing the wrongs L has done, and being that L has not been available to marry you (being that he is married and lacking the moral fiber to do what’s right), you are still attached to him. This attachment keeps you safe from being in an active, ongoing romantic relationship.
There are available men interested in you, but you are not interested in them. You are interested in an unavailable man.
You see herself as an emotionally strong and independent woman, and you are. Thing is, I think that an active, real-life romantic relationship with an available, trustworthy man threatens your sense of strength and independence, therefore, you stayed away from any relationship into your late 20s, got married not by choice, and then shortly after, walked out of it and you remain attached- into your late 30s- to an unavailable and untrustworthy/ unreliable man.. so, to.. remain strong and independent.
You shared above that you are not obsessive of him and that you do not have great burning desire to be with him at any cost.. so, seems to me that his role in your life is to keep you away from a relationship with a trustworthy, available man, keeping yourself strong and independent as a single woman.
I think that L is someone who has served, over the last 11 years or so, to keep you emotionally occupied, so that you are not emotionally available to engage in a new relationship. This dynamic helps explain your continued attachment despite the downsides.
In general, many people who have been through difficult emotional experiences cultivate a strong sense of independence as a way to cope. They take pride in their ability to handle life on their own and see themselves as emotionally self-sufficient. Entering into a new, real-life relationship with an available and trustworthy partner can challenge this self-perception because being in a relationship often requires interdependence, where both partners rely on each other for emotional support. This can feel like a threat to their carefully constructed sense of independence.
Maintaining an attachment to an unavailable partner can provide a sense of control. The dynamics are predictable, and there’s a known distance that can be maintained. This control can feel safe and stable. A new relationship with an available and trustworthy person introduces unpredictability and the potential for deep emotional connection. This can be intimidating because it requires stepping out of the comfort zone and risking emotional exposure.
Any of this reads true to you, Rising Flower?
anita
December 25, 2024 at 8:59 am #441012anitaParticipantDear Rising Flower:
I hope that you are well and that I will be reading from you again. I want to respond to you more positively and empathetically this morning, a month and a day after my last post to you (and assuming the issues you shared about have not yet been resolved, at least not completely):
Navigating the complexities of an arranged marriage, falling for someone else, and dealing with the emotional fallout is an huge burden. Your initial marriage to H, a kind and caring person, and the subsequent entanglement with L, who manipulated your emotions, created a situation filled with conflict and guilt.
The ongoing manipulation and blame from L, despite his marriage to another woman, have understandably caused more emotional turmoil. It’s clear that L’s behavior—his dishonesty, anger issues, and neglect—has significantly impacted your well-being.
Despite recognizing the unhealthy nature of your relationship with L and your own emotional maturity, it’s natural to struggle with deep, complex feelings. Your accidental pregnancy and miscarriage add another layer of emotional pain. It’s important to acknowledge the strength it takes to navigate these challenges and continue seeking healing, and that it’s okay to feel conflicted and to struggle with detaching from someone who has been a significant part of your life for over a decade.
I think that it is the intense emotional roller coaster (highs and lows) of love, hope, disappointment, and pain made it very difficult for you to establish clear boundaries and detach from L: when things are going well, the feelings of joy, love, and connection with L are (I imagine) incredibly intense. These positive emotions create strong, happy memories that overshadow the negative experiences. During the highs, L likely provides affection and validation, which makes you feel valued and loved, reinforcing your attachment to him.
The lows involve conflict, mistreatment, and emotional pain. These experiences are also intense but on the opposite end of the emotional spectrum. The highs and lows create an unpredictable pattern of reinforcement. This is a powerful psychological mechanism where occasional rewards (emotional highs) make the individual crave more, despite the presence of negative experiences (lows).
This pattern is similar to gambling or other addictive behaviors, where the occasional win (positive interaction) keeps the person engaged and hoping for more.
This cycle of highs and lows can lead to trauma bonding, where the individual becomes emotionally dependent on the person causing the pain. The rare moments of affection and kindness are seen as relief from the pain, making them more potent.
I hope that further understanding the addictive power of emotional cycles of high and lows, such as the one you are experiencing (if you still do), as well as the concept of trauma bonding are, or will be helpful to you. Please continue to prioritize your well-being and seek support from therapy and trusted individuals. Your journey is unique, and your emotions are valid. Healing is a gradual process, and it’s okay to take the time you need.
Wishing you strength and clarity as you continue to navigate this complex journey!
anita
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