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  • #177151
    Tom
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    Hi all

     

    I’m in a situation right now where I could use some input or a fresh view on things.

    My ex and i were together for 2,5 years. It has always been difficult since we are both alike emotionally. We rather get angry than to express what we really feel so there were a lot of fights. I think we are both anxiously avoidant attached.

    Because the relationship was so turbulent i started drinking more as a coping mechanism and hit her twice. This had a deep impact on her because her dad used to be aggressive too and she was molested as a child by her grandfather.

    She broke things off with me about 3 months ago and we were in no contact for 2 months. She almost immediately rebounded with someone else.

    4 weeks ago she made contact again and we saw each other again to exchange some stuff. It was a very deep conversation. She said she is still very angry with me and admitted she got into a rekationship to get over me. The thing is, this guy is very sweet for her, saying she is the love of his life and would do anything for her. But she gets irritated by this. She also said that she cant talk with like we used to talk. I am the only one that understands who she is and can comfort her. I know the exact words to say when she feels down. She said she also has been crying a lot and misses me terribly.

    Anyway, during the past 3 weeks we saw each other a couple of times, always initiated by her. I am in therapy for my issues and I let her know that I wanted to start over again with her seeing that we have such a huge connection.

    But she says she doesnt want a relationship anymore because too much has happened. She repeated this a couple of times but when I suggested that she could come with me to my therapist to see what changes I made, she was willing to do so but then immediately said: I cant do that to my new boyfriend. Maybe I can go alone to your therapist? Why even say that when you are done with the relationship?

    Anyway, I saw her again yesterday and again she was complaining about her boyfriend, about him being needy and clingy and not understanding her. But they don’t fight, and that is what is important to her now.

    she also said: there is something about you that I miss when you are not around. You know how to handle me and what to say to me when i’m stressed out. She thinks a about me a lot even when she is with him. But again, she doesn’t want a relationship anymore.

    She’s coming over again tomorrow. I was wondering what the best course of action is. Just have a nice dinner with her without bringing up the subject? Or saying that we should reduce contact (not no contact).

    Any input is appreciated!

    #177167
    Tom
    Participant

    I think this post needs to be in the forum “relationships”. Maybe a mod can change this?

    #177185
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Tom:

    I don’t think it matters much if you place your thread under “Relationships”.

    I think it is best for you to not have contact with your ex girlfriend. Assuming you are attending quality psychotherapy, such contact can interfere with your healing in therapy. Of course, talking to your therapist about it (did you?) is probably a good idea.

    She is engaged in a relationship with another man. For that reason alone, it is best for her and for you to not be in contact.  She wanted to see your therapist alone. I hope she sees a therapist alone, for individual therapy.

    She told you that you “only one that understands who she is and can comfort her”- problem is that didn’t stop the fighting in the relationship, fighting that was mutual. She was not comforted enough to not fight, not comforted enough to not be anxious (“I think we are both anxiously avoidant attached”).

    Maybe I should ask: do you believe the anxiety and fighting in the relationship was mutual, that is, that she is responsible for her part in it?

    anita

    #177191
    Tom
    Participant

    Thanks for replying anita.

    I think the fighting was more due to my anxiety anand was more my fault.

    If we break all contact, how then can i regain her trust?

    What do you mean by: she was not comforted enough to not fight?

     

    #177203
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Tom:

    You asked what I meant by her not having been comforted enough to not fight. In your original post you wrote: “we are both alike emotionally. We rather get angry than to express what we really feel so there were a lot of fights”- meaning that the two of you were responsible for fighting. So when she recently told you that you are the ““only one that understands who she is and can comfort her”- was she not saying that during the relationship you comforted her? And that you still do?

    If she meant that during the relationship you comforted her (not only after), then she was not calm enough to not contribute her part to the fighting.

    You asked how you can regain her trust if you break contact: I hope your priority is for you to make the best use of your psychotherapy and I hope she attends therapy herself. Regaining trust- perhaps after therapy, after a long enough period of individual therapy, separately by the two of you, is what I am thinking.

    anita

    #177205
    Tom
    Participant

    You mean: my comforting was not enough?

    #177211
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Tom:

    I don’t understand your last post: did you read my last post to you, right before your last?

    If so, can you clarify your question, restate it more clearly?

    anita

    #177221
    Tom
    Participant

    You said: she was not calm enough to not fight. So i did not comfort her enough?

    #177225
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Tom:

    Correct, but note: an anxious person cannot be permanently comforted by another. It takes a long time and a lot of individual work- as well as a safe, loving relationship- to heal from and manage anxiety.

    And so, when she told you that only you comfort her, it means to me, that you comforted her well temporarily. If you got back together she would still need to heal and manage her anxiety.

    Did I clarify my input to you?

    anita

    #177227
    Anonymous
    Guest

    * did not get submitted correctly…

    #177229
    Tom
    Participant

    Yes you did.

    you seem very knowledgeble. Can you tell me something: she is now with a guy that is calm and they dont fight. Could this be what she needs or will old wounds keep coming back?

    #177261
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Tom:

    Like I wrote above, “an anxious person cannot be permanently comforted by another”, not by you, not by the current guy, not by anyone. After all, the most qualified, hard working, caring, calm psychotherapist cannot provide permanent comfort to an anxious person, even if a client see the therapist 4 times per week.

    She has to do the work. Help by another is necessary but is never enough.

    And yes, old wounds do come back.

    anita

    #177269
    Anonymous
    Guest

    * again, didn’t submit correctly…

    #177277
    Tom
    Participant

    Thank you very much Anita. I think she is indeed anxious since she is anxious about a lot of things. Does this qualify as anxiously attached?

    At the moment she is very anxious about her new job and cannot get the proper comforting by her current boyfriend.

    We were supposed to meet tomorrow but she cancelled saying that all the impressions this week are too much for her (impressions on work and me)

    During our relationship there was a lot of push/pull. I see this as another push, am I correct? This makes my anxiety levels rise and i do not want that. So next time I see her I will tell her that we need to take our distance again.

    What do you think?

    #177283
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Tom:

    Yes, she reads to me like an anxious person (lots and lots of people are!) . Regarding the push and pull, yes it is not good for you, increases your anxiety, just like you wrote.

    I believe it is a good choice, on your part, congruent with your own healing. Keeping contact with her, I believe, will be to your disadvantage, and will be of no advantage to her.

    anita

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