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  • #166042
    Louise
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    Please help me. I have been with my boyfriend for six years. I adore him. But I am ruining our relationship, bit by bit. He is endlessly loving towards me, and I to him. But I get so upset when I feel I’m not his priority. I freak out – I become possessive. I become jealous of any and every girl. There isn’t a girl we know that I haven’t accused him of fancying. I make him defend himself. Without realizing, I create ‘tests’ for him to prove his love. I think deep down, I don’t feel secure/ worthy. I feel he is too good for me. That it’s just a question of time before he realizes/ meets someone cooler/ more interesting/ funnier. It’s like I’m torturing myself. Mean while, I have terrible anxiety which he helps me with. I spend every day going to therapy, doing yoga, journalling, to try to ‘contain’ myself. But I still can’t – I still get these moments of absolute paranoia where I’m convinced he’s having doubts/ forming an attraction with someone else. And I just can’t control it. I just explode. It’s exactly the same my mother. I lash out, and become someone I hate – that I don’t recognise. Does anyone have any advise at all? I’m so scared I’ve ruined it already. Thank you

    #166060
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Louise:

    A previous hurt, long-time hurt of your earlier life, before you met him, is screaming for attention in your present behavior, doesn’t it;

    Your fear of losing him of him attending to someone else and leaving you behind, alone and unattended to, this experience of abandonment already happened, didn’t it?

    If so, did you discuss it in therapy and can you share it here?

    anita

    #166078
    Louise
    Participant

    Thanks so much for coming back to me.

    I’m not really sure. My mum, whilst always devoted, had her own mental health problems. She used to have (and still does sometimes) extremely paranoid episodes. She could be very toxic. My whole family bound by her mood swings. I grew up hearing her accuse my dad of affairs. And I’m pretty sure he did have ‘something’ on the side. I know what it’s like to be around someone who, despite their wonderfulness, could become quite toxic, abusive and nasty. I fear – in fact I know – that I am becoming that person. And it terrifies me. The thing is, ive talked about this to death in therapy. I spend so much of my time trying to better myself. Maybe it doesn’t even have anything to do with my childhood. Who knows. I just wish I could unlearn the ability to be jealous, tthe negative thinking patterns I’ve developed. I’m at a loss. I feel as though I’m trying to protect him from myself.

     

     

     

     

    #166108
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Louise:

    You are welcome. You wrote: “Maybe it doesn’t even have anything to do with my childhood. Who knows.”-

    I believe that you know. You just don’t know that you know, not yet.

    I don’t see how it is possible for a young girl not to be strongly affected by a paranoid mother. I don’t see a way that her accusations that your father cheated on her, how these accusations could possibly have no affect and effect on you. It doesn’t matter whether he cheated on her. The fact that you were a witness to her accusations and her anxiety as she made those accusations are enough to affect you.

    You wrote that you “talked about this to death in therapy” as perhaps evidence that your childhood experience is not the cause for your current predicament, correct?

    Thing is, talking is not enough to undo core beliefs formed in childhood. If you believed, as a child, that relationships are unsafe, dangerous because you saw how anxious and disturbed your mother was in her relationship, then you still believe it. There is a feeling holding this kind of belief in place, like glue. It is strong glue, I am thinking. Since you are continuing therapy, maybe there is a different way to doing therapy, other than talking, to get in touch with that glue.

    anita

    #166148
    Eliana
    Participant

    Hi Louise,

    I had the same problems. I always sabatoge my relationships because of this, and would always “leave” or “reject” him before he would leave or reject me or perceived rejection, I too would get extremely jealous and insecure, and if I felt he was “distancing” I would panic. However, I did have severe childhood trauma. Whether you had childhood trauma or not, there is an excellent book, a best seller. You can get it in a library, book store or Amazon. I highly suggest it..it’s called “I hate you, Don’t leave me” by Jerold Kreismann.

    #166200
    Louise
    Participant

    How do I find that glue? I know what you’re saying is right. For some reason, I’m convinced I have this inner ‘badness’ and I’m just waiting for people to discover it. I am waiting for my boyfriend to break up with me. I am waiting to catch him looking at a girl in a certain way; or to have an in depth conversation of which I play no part. I’m torturing myself and I’m torturing him. And I just unleash this rage, this resentment that comes deep in the pit of my stomach. And I know it comes from a place of being threatened. I always had this thing since I was tiny of needing to be like the person I’m talking to and this has never gone away.  When my partner speaks to another girl, or even his sister or his mother, and voices admiration, I feel distraught that i am not them. I become so incredibly jealous. I feel I am ‘wrong’ and everyone else is right. And its just a question of time until he finds out. And Im on borrowed time. I don’t know how to stop this feeling.

    #166204
    Louise
    Participant

    Thank you Eliana. May I ask, are you diagnosed with BPD? Can I ask how the book helped you? I haven’t been diagnoed with BDP, but reading through the symptoms it sounds like my mum could have had it (she never got offically diagnosed, that was part of the problem). Thank you

    #166210
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Louise:

    Your first sentence is the question:  “How do I find that glue?” and your last sentence answers it: “I don’t know how to stop this feeling.” The glue is that feeling and it found you long time ago, stays with you, always there ready to be activated.

    And you elaborated about the glue: it is that feeling of “inner badness”. I am wondering: you wrote that your mother was and still is paranoid at times. She accused your father of cheating. Did she accuse you of wrongdoings as well? Maybe she still does?

    anita

     

    #166216
    Louise
    Participant

    I can’t thank you enough for your replies. Yes, I suppose she did. Although I worry I’ve blanked a lot of it out. I remember being told to leave home a lot. She was furious with me for breaking up with my ex. My ex’s father was terminally ill – she accused my dad of having an affair with his mother, and told her she never wanted to know our children (even though we’d broken up). She accused my dad of ‘showing himself’ to myself and my friends. For quite some time, when it was at its worst, I lived in perpetual fear that everything and anything I did would be interpreted the wrong way – a bad way – and it would tip her into a rage. I had one eye on me, and one eye on her. There was one look. One facial expression. Which I knew meant game over – that was the evening/ day/ weekend ruined. We were always accused of saying things. Telling people, ‘spies’ about her. She often heard voices. But this was years ago. I constantly had to cover for her behavior when we had people around. I would distract my aunties and uncles when I could hear her screaming and screaming in the garden. It was like a dirty secret. She refused to seek medical help. She is much better now, and I love her to the moon and back. How can this be effecting me now? And how is this impacting on my current relationship?

    #166238
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Louise:

    You are welcome.

    You asked: “how can this be effecting me now?”- to consider this question, think of how your brain worked as a young child. It is now, as a woman, that you have an understanding of her mental illness, of her hearing voices at the time, of the insanity of her behavior. But back then, it was not so.

    For a child, her mother is perfect, right, loving. When a parent tells her young child that she is wrong or bad, the child does not go: let me examine this statement, this message my mother is sending me. Let me evaluate it, if it is true. No, the child believes. The child does not challenge what her mother says- that comes later. At the time, the child takes it is, and a core-belief is formed: “I am bad.”

    “And how is this impacting on my current relationship?”, you asked. Well, with the core-belief “I am bad”- it is just a matter of time for your boyfriend to find out and leave you. As you suggested.

    anita

    #166308
    Eliana
    Participant

    Hi Louise,

    Yes, I have BPD, but the book is helpful for anyone. ☺

    #166342
    sidneylove
    Participant

    Hello Louise,

    Your situation reminds me much of myself and my current state. I’ve been married for 6 years and the last 2 years has been a toxic relationship driven mainly by myself and triggered by infertility, multiple IVFs, 2 miscarriages and constant stress. My husband is a very loving man and tried to support me the best way he can throughout however his type and way of support was not what I needed. I wanted to grieve together and he wanted to be optimistic, to keep my chin up and keep on trying. I resented this and started lashing out, blaming him, criticizing and making threats throughout which only made him retreat. Ultimately he started seeking friends, mainly females to talk with. I became very angry and jealous which he then sought more of the emotional connection with these individuals. The situation had spiraled out of control, he apologized and we tried to start over. That didn’t last long as I have a difficult time trusting and he lives in fear. We have had a rocky relationship for the last 2 years and recently he finally stated he need some space and time away from me. He has been living in another country to concentrate on his work. It will be 2 months from the time he left to when he is scheduled to return, which he extended for one month. For the first couple of weeks he was gone, I had lashed out and verbally abused him over the phone. It was very sad and disturbing at the same time. I didn’t like myself and he didn’t like me either. I had decided from then on, that it was better not to have any communication with him, because when I did, all my emotions surface, negative thoughts and stories would build. During this time I have a lot of sadness, crying, panic attacks and time for reflection. I realize that I have attachment and abandonment issues which stems from my childhood upbringing and my friends state I have never been alone (without being in some type of relationship) and most importantly one person assessed that I like to control the love in my relationships. All of these things are true. As hard as it is now, I will try my best to become a whole individual and not need another person to complete me. Once I become more independent and love myself then I can share my completeness with someone else, rather than depending on them to complete me and make me happy. My husband is trying to reach out but I am afraid that I am not ready yet and may lash out again. We have both made mistakes and I’m hoping we will learn from them, heal ourselves first and if we are on the same path at the same time, perhaps we can try again. I’m not sure if this story relates to yours but I did want to encourage you to use some time to think and perhaps see things from another perspective.

    #166452
    Bubba
    Participant

    Dear Louise,

    I have been there. It is called abandonment trauma or rage. Please seek a therapist even if through skype who specializes in abandonment, adult children of dysfunctional families etc.

    I can think of two right now- Donna m torbico and Jerry wise.

     

    all the best,

     

    N

    #166454
    Bubba
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    Bubba
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