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June 2, 2018 at 7:08 am #210459VeronicaParticipant
Yes! You really understand me well ?
What should I do? Should I continue with my plan?
June 2, 2018 at 7:29 am #210463AnonymousGuestDear Veronica:
I want to understand you well. This is why I ask you questions and I pay attention to your answers.
Congratulations for uninstalling Tinder four years ago and for turning off the romantic movie once you realized that you felt depressed as a result.
You wrote: “I planned to eliminate everything for six months, not to entertain any potential lover or watched a movie that can trigger my longingness”.
I am suggesting these adjustments to your plan. Let me know what you think of my suggestions as they may be good suggestions for you or not:
Plan to eliminate online and actual dating for one month instead of six. Then at the end of the month evaluate how your plan worked for you.
Regarding a movie, plan to watch one if you feel like it, but plan to do what you already did successfully: to turn it off once you feel sad or depressed.
What do you think?
anita
June 2, 2018 at 3:22 pm #210489VeronicaParticipantThank you anita, I think I would like to follow yours maybe by being aggressively harsh to myself won’t help me.
I think I can manage my plan. However, I don’t know how to deal with my depression. Should I just numb and be cold? I don’t know what to do.
June 3, 2018 at 3:21 am #210521AnonymousGuestDear Veronica:
As you follow your plan, if you want, you can post here every day something about how the plan is going and I will reply every time I am on the computer (which has been daily for a long, long time).
About your depression- you are probably experiencing now and ever since the same depression, the same kind of feeling you experienced when your mother left and you were holding her clothes close to you. We people keep experiencing the same as we did as children. When attending quality therapy (and not all therapy is quality, effective, that is), then we get in touch with the experience of then-and-there, process it in such a way that over time, we free ourselves somewhat of that experience and are able to experience something different.
When you got into online dating, for example, you got temporary relief from that depression, that high that the addiction is about. That was a very temporary relief that was followed by the depression, again and again. To experience well-being on an ongoing basis, without a fall back into depression, that takes the processing of the past experiences.
I believe you wrote that you don’t have access to psychotherapy. Maybe it will help you (try it and let me know if it helps some) to share more about those early experiences of your childhood. When you are calm, sitting comfortably with your computer, remember the child that you were and type away, what you saw and heard and how it felt inside, was your heart beating fast, what were the thoughts of the little girl that you were?
If you become too distressed during such a suggested exercise, stop the exercise, the sharing.
Also, a part of your plan should be some daily exercise, maybe a long walk once a day. What is your daily routine at this point?
anita
June 4, 2018 at 4:51 am #210629VeronicaParticipantTo Anita,
I work 9 hours a day, 6 and a half days a week. After work, every other day, I go to the gym, I enrolled myself in martial arts. Aside from that, I am always on my phone. Social media, stalking on my exes, looking through people’s post on how they seem to have a wonderful life.
I know I should find a hobby or anything that can bring back my love for life. I always keep having suicidal thoughts even if I don’t have big problems at hand.
June 4, 2018 at 5:06 am #210635AnonymousGuestDear Veronica:
That’s a lot of working, about sixty hours a week! I am impressed that you do go to the gym every other day. I don’t remember if you shared about it, if you have any friends, at work or outside work?
Tell me more about your pain, your suffering when you “don’t have big problems at hand”. What are the thoughts going on and the feelings, what are they?
anita
June 4, 2018 at 6:11 am #210647VeronicaParticipantI have friends at work and outside as well. I laugh at them, talked about life, except on this addiction. I am happy with them but when I came home, I came dull and cold. I lived with my parents. We don’t talked much, I left home early and went home late at night. I never felt that ‘home’ I crave for it. Yes, I have friends but I mask myself everytime when I am with them.
Not until last month, I met a guy online. He made me feel sooo wonderful and loved but then he suddenly disappear. Right now, I miss the feeling he gaves me.
June 4, 2018 at 6:38 am #210651AnonymousGuestDear Veronica:
You shared earlier that when you were home, as a child, and you found out your mother was gone, holding her worn clothes, and your father, yelling at you, is that the experience you have when you currently get home after work, “dull and cold”?
anita
June 4, 2018 at 4:51 pm #210797VeronicaParticipantHmmmm. Interesting.
Maybe? I am not quite sure. I have poor memories in my childhood. It is only clear when there is something that can trigger me back to that experience.
June 5, 2018 at 4:14 am #210843AnonymousGuestDear Veronica:
Did I understand correctly, you are currently living with your parents. I suppose you feel very lonely in their company, just like you did as a child. I think this is that “dull and cold” feeling, the depression you experience. When you communicate with a guy online, you get a break from that dull and cold feeling. You feel engaged, not dull; warm, not cold. It also happens often when you watch a romantic movie.
Key then is, how can you get that engaged and warm feeling while not doing the activities you are trying to abstain from.
anita
June 5, 2018 at 5:54 am #210859VeronicaParticipantExactly. I feel no warmth especially from my father. The weird thing happened today at gym, I caught myself flirting with my coach, which I have never done before nor like him in a romantic way. I thought maybe because he is the only guy friend that I interact lately. I really wanted to be cured. Help me please 🙁
June 5, 2018 at 7:32 am #210883AnonymousGuestDear Veronica:
You can’t get cured from your need to feel engaged and warm inside, to feel connected to another person, to feel good in such a connection. You can’t get cured from this need because this need is not a disease. We are born with the need to connect. All social animals are born with that need.
Question is how you can satisfy this natural need without hurting yourself. Are there such a thing as support groups where you live, people coming together for the purpose of talking and listening to each other…?
anita
June 5, 2018 at 7:56 am #210893KumarParticipantDear Veronica:
@ Your inner feeling is controlled by external people and circumstances. If we let this happen we always will be emotional slave to someone. Someone will determine whether we should happy or not.
@ First you should stabilize yourself, turn inward. You can do this while u connected to other peoples.
@ Don’t aspect for immediate result, It may take time. Take 1st step and keep continue.
@ Priority should be given to yourself, focus on uplifting yourself.
June 5, 2018 at 5:05 pm #210993VeronicaParticipantTo Anita,
Apparently not to i’ve known. I have friends on which I can talk to but I don’t like the way they respond to me. They give me false optimism. Whenever I share something, it would made me feel bad even more cause they have more serious problems that I have. I feel guilty for feeling this way.
June 5, 2018 at 5:10 pm #210995VeronicaParticipantTo Kumar,
Yes. I know. I know all of that. I been aware of my situation for some quite time. I’ve been trying to fix myself for several times. It’s funny that no matter how many self help books I read, no matter how I tried to live my life, as supposed to be (focus on health and diet, inner engineering), I fell back into this spot whenever there is something that can trigger.
Anyway, thank you. I guess I should practice even more.
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