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  • #127533
    Pauline Peoples
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    I need some help…I love this website and
    Never wrote on a forum before but I feel completely lost.

    This weekend my husband went out with his friends and cousin. I finished work at 6.45pm after an 11 hour shift. I rang him and as we currently live separately as we are saving for a house he was going to get a taxi to mine after having a few drinks.

    I told him he didn’t need to and he kept saying don’t you want to see me?
    Of course I did! But its £30 to my house in a taxi from where he was going out. I told him to have a good time and if he changed his mind and stay out just let me know.

    At 10.45pm I text saying I wanted a cuddle. He rereplied saying me too I will get a taxi soon. 12pm came and no sign. I tried ringing but no answer rang again and it rang for a bit then went to answer phone. I texted his mum to check if he was home but she knew he was coming here and asked me to text her when he arrives because it was late.

    When I got to speak to him it was all brovardo…don’t try to guilt me I’m having fun. All I asked was couldn’t he text me?? He said he would see me tomorrow and I said no I didn’t want to see him our of anger.

    He didn’t speak to me at all the day after but I
    Usually get the silent treatment when I have done something wrong.

    I rang him and was like well you could of showed me respect and at least text me and let me know. He said I see your point. But I kept pushing it and he ended the call. I texted him saying I can’t deal with him showing me no respect or showing any love anymore and just got the reply K.

    Sunday again didn’t want to speak to me I tried reaching out but no response. Then his cousin messaged me saying what games am I playing? I explained I was owed a message and wanted to.sleep next to my husband. He then said he hasn’t seen him for two weeks and he doesn’t guilt trip him and I am selfish when he does everything for me??

    It was taken completely out of context I was asking for a text to let me know he wasn’t coming down…I had not complained or moaned once about going out. My phone calls are recorded and I was going to send them to his cousin but I didn’t because my marriage is none of his business.

    I then drove in a emotional state to my husbands parents house. I told him he can have the rings back because he obviously isn’t happy and saying horrible things to his cousin for him to have a go about me. He called me manipulative and playing games I was crying uncontrollably causing myself to have a panic attack. All I asked for was a text! He then told me he didnt know if he loved me anymore.

    I’ve been in an physical and emotional abusive
    Relationship in the past and had PTSD I underwent hypnotherapy 3 years ago. My husband and his cousin seemed to be helping me but I get now accused of being mentally ill or thrown in my face when I opened up to them.

    We have been through a lot in our relationship and I always fight for him, his approval, signs of love and affection…but after him saying he doesn’t know if he loves me its broken me am in abits and its obvious he doesn’t care.

    I just don’t know what to do,please help!

    #127537
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear pollypeeps17:

    This is clearly a difficult time for you and I hope your life situation gets better for you. The fact that you live separately from your husband is a problem even if the relationship was excellent. There is a challenge in the living apart in itself, especially without easy access to each other (expensive taxi required).

    And then, in addition to that, he goes out for drinks at night, into the late hours, with friends- that fits the behavior of (some) single men. It is not congruent with being married.

    To top that, he told you he was having drinks with friends and his cousin. But the cousin told you later on that he didn’t see your husband for two weeks. What is the reason for the lie by either husband or cousin…?

    In addition, you wrote, that when he is angry at you he gives you the silent treatment and he throws it in your face that you suffered PTSD, that you are mentally ill- these are abuses.

    All these lead me to believe that maybe this marriage was or is a mistake..?

    anita

    #127547
    Poppyxo
    Participant

    Hi pollypeeps17,
    It seems to me like this situation has been completely thrown out of proportion and I’m sorry to hear this.
    I agree he should’ve contacted you whilst he was out, the non response isn’t very nice – however, what was the length of non-response?
    You say your marriage has nothing to do with his cousin.. but is it ok for you to involve his Mum by texting her asking if he was home? I sense some insecurity here, would that be right?
    I think he felt smoothered by the fact that he had text you back saying he wanted a cuddle too and would get a taxi soon, but we all know when we’re having a laugh and a drink an hour feels like 10 minutes. A song he may have liked may have come on, he may have met up with an old friend or was just having a good time and didn’t realise the time.. at 10:45 you text and said you wanted a cuddle, I presume he text back around 11pm, no sign at 12pm.. that’s only an hour, which isn’t a long time really when you think about it especially if the taxi trip would’ve been 20ish minutes.
    I’m trying not to go to deep into the facts of what has happened but it seems like some insecurity going on – why does it matter that he didn’t come home in a certain time frame? If he never came home at all I think that would be the concern. What if you were out and you said to him I’ll be home soon (no specifics) then your girl friends brought more drinks, your favorite song came on and you got chatting? Would he ask where you are?

    Silent treatment from him isn’t good for anyone, particularly with the history you have. I’m sorry to hear that. I’m not sure you’re fully healed from a lot of things, self love, self appreciation and your own approval is very important.

    Are you seeking help in a form of a counsellor?

    I think sitting down with him, and only him, and explaining how you interpreted or felt from the situation would help.
    Try to use I messages… “I felt worried because I thought ‘soon’ meant within the next hour, then when I couldn’t get hold of you I felt upset” Don’t say “I felt sad that YOU didn’t call me, therefore YOUR selfish” all he will hear is what he HAS or HASN’T done wrong and not how YOU feel.

    Can I ask, why were you so worried when he didn’t come home when he said? Honestly…

    Poppy

    #127549
    Pauline Peoples
    Participant

    Thank you for replying Anita.

    We got married in July last year. Once we returned from our honeymoon he went to Bristol to work for four months.

    At the start of Jan he promised we would talk more and he wouldn’t use the silent treatment because it upsets me so much and we would spend more time together.

    His cousins never liked me, him and my husband were close growing up and a few times my husband has sent messages to him talking about me in the past. I’ve tried to be a friend to him, he went through an awful breakup and I did the whole what girls say to their girl friends that you can do better and she had an awful fashion sense and as I was trying to be a friend he was texting his ex and she was threatening me and my partner did nothing.

    It just got me when he is having ago at me when I haven’t done anything wrong apart from try to get my husband to communicate with me. And he’s telling me that he hasn’t seen him for two weeks…and I’m thinking to myself he’s my husband I should be seeing him everyday and I see him twice a week at the most! I was raging and thinking to myself this isn’t normal!

    I think rather than my husband telling them the truth that he told me he was leaving early to sleep at mine he decided to say I was nagging him for going out with the lads but with the recorded calls and texts that proves that wasn’t the case. He defends what he said even though that doesn’t match the evidence. I’m so self critical of myself and I hate confrontation he knows I will back down and apologise which I have. But when listening to the calls and checking through my texts checking that he did msg me saying he was getting a taxi soon…I haven’t done anything wrong.

    Now after him saying he doesn’t know if he loves me…is he saying he doesn’t love me anymore, a game of manipulation in itself or just trying to hurt me more than ever.

    I’m so crushed I love him with my entire heart and soul he is my absolute world and I would say from my point the marriage wasn’t a mistake but I think he clearly now does and hes now thinking how far can I push her to finally walk away…

    I’m just assuming what he is thinking he won’t talk to me so I have no idea.

    #127555
    Pauline Peoples
    Participant

    Hi Poppy,

    When I said my marriage is nothing to Do with his cousin is when I thought of sending him the recorded phone call between myself and my husband and i decided not too because it was between us too.

    I spoke to my husband when leaving work and I told him to stay at his and stay out and he said why didn’t I want to see him? It costs £30 for a taxi and then he mentioned about getting the train and the station is 10 mins away from mine and I would have picked him up and let me know if he decides to stay out.
    I have no problem with him Enjoying himself.

    When I go out with my friends he is usual with me or when I do have plans I cancel them like the other week I had a MBE party to go too but he wanted date night on the same night. And too me he comes first and I contacted my friend to let her know I wouldn’t be coming.

    A few times in the past when my husband goes out and drinks fights happen that was my concern. That’s why I contacted his mum as she is aware of this.

    My past I’ve worked hard on my confidence and my self esteem that’s why I’m in a hard place because for once I’m standing up for myself asking for respect and apparently that’s wrong.
    I had a counsellor for my PTSD and I’ve been fine since completing treatment with visulasions and such. My confidence grows everyday I started a new course last week so go into a nursing roles and further myself.

    I’d love to be able to talk to my husband hes in ignor mode so I make it worse if I contact him. I wait till he contacts me once he’s had his time….

    #127557
    Pauline Peoples
    Participant

    See post forgot to press reply x

    #127567
    Poppyxo
    Participant

    Hi pollypeeps17,
    What am I hearing is “stay out as it costs £30 for a taxi” – was the plan for him to get a train to you a definite and in place? Or was it a suggestion, with no agreement to it?

    How come you cancel your plans? You should have time with your friends as well. You should have two lives technically, one with your husband, one with your friends. I guess in a way you probably resent doing that, but you do it to please him and in a way, maybe expect the same back from him?
    You can’t worry about the future – him fighting. You’re not sure it would happen, and if it does, he needs to deal with the consequences, you can’t do the ‘feeling’ for him, he needs to feel the consequences etc of his actions, don’t take that on, that’s his not yours. I’m not saying you’re a bad person for doing that, I get that you care, but that’s not your stuff – those mountains you’re carrying you were only meant to climb 🙂

    You said “At the start of Jan he promised we would talk more and he wouldn’t use the silent treatment because it upsets me so much and we would spend more time together.” from what you have said, he hasn’t spoken more and has used the silent treatment on you – so you need to start showing that respect that you have for yourself and telling me he isn’t doing what he promised. How many times has he done this? Because the more he does this and ‘gets away with it’ the longer it will continue.

    #127569
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear pollypeeps:

    A few more things:

    If he lies to you, that is a problem. You need his honesty.

    You wrote: “Now after him saying he doesn’t know if he loves me…is he saying he doesn’t love me anymore, a game of manipulation in itself or just trying to hurt me more than ever.”-

    No one feels affection for another 100% of the time. If he expects to feel affection all the time and gets alarmed when he doesn’t, thinking he doesn’t love you anymore, that is his faulty thinking.

    But if he said it, as you suspect, in a manipulative way, “trying to hurt (you) more than ever”- then that is very unloving. Trying to hurt a person is the opposite of loving that person.

    You are inclined to take responsibility for problems, believing you are in the wrong. There are people with the opposite inclination- pointing the finger of blame at another, giving the other the responsibility for anything that goes wrong. There is a “fit” in such a pairing of people, but that fit is misery for the one taking the blame.

    anita

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