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  • #157976
    Needthelight
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    Hi, I was married for 12 years and had a little son with my husband. My husband was my first and only love… we were growing a bit distant in terms of physical and emotional needs(when I was 4 months pergnant after 7 years of relationship, I found out he had a girlfriend for 6.5 years, i still forgave him thinking things would become better, he did not want to break our relationship too). I came to Australia in Nov 2014 and got lot of love and attention from this man here in Australia. I couldn’t believe someone could love me so much. I decided to divorce my husband .. everyone kept telling me that I have a 3 year old boy and I shouldn’t do this to him. I was so blinded that I didn’t listen to anyone. My partner at the time was also recently separated and was fighting for custody of his children. I didn’t know for a long time that he was on drugs due to depression. I was missing my son as I love him to death, so I asked my husband to come to Australia with my son. I didn;t tell him about my relationship. He came to Australia in July 2015 with my son and saw me with the other man and took back my son without telling me to India. I went into bad depression. In the mean time my family in India stopped supporting me. All I had was my partner who quit his job and was doing drugs/alcohol at the time. I was working full time despite all this. I finally managed to get my son back after 1 year of fighting. My partner quit drugs and got his 2 daughters back ( on joint custody) and till date I am working full time and feeding a family of 5. I feel so guilty that I could give everything in the world to my little baby but I cannot because now everything that was his has to be divided into 3 children. His father ( my ex) loves my so much and is still single, works really hard for him. I am now stuck because if I leave my partner he will loose his kids .. it makes me feel guilty. Even if my ex wouldn’t get back with me ( I SO WISH HE WOULD) atleast if I am by my own with my son I would take him on holidays with my ex and he will get time together with his mom and dad which he longs for. My current partner loves me and helps with the house work but I am getting into this phase of depression where I don’t want to go home. I feel guilty and I can’t talk to anyone as everyone judges me. I am dying inside .. I really need help

    #158012
    Inky
    Participant

    Hi Needthelight,

    I’m going to suggest something that sounds very cruel: Leave the man and move into a household where it is just you and your son. Yes, even if he loses his kids. And guess what, that wouldn’t happen immediately, he would have enough time to figure something out.

    You can’t go wrong when you do the right thing. Your son needs a full, attentive mother. Your quasi-step children need the full attention of a parent, even if it’s from their mother. Your BF needs to get a job and be self sufficient for his children.

    Don’t let guilt hold you back. Blame your partner’s drug use. His problems really aren’t yours. Only your son is yours. He is the only one that matters here when it comes to your responsibility.

    Good Luck,

    Inky

    #158204
    Needthelight
    Participant

    Thank u so much Inky. I really know this is what I should do but I become really weak when it comes to telling him to leave. He really loves me and cares for me. There is (at the moment) nothing wrong with him, not even his addictions, except him not working. It’s just that I feel really bad for my son. It’s his birthday soon and I asked him what does he want for his birthday and he replied with tears in his eyes saying ” I just want to live with mummy n daddy , will it come true mum? ” my heart broke into million pieces. But how do I justify it to my partner. He will says it’s just that he doesn’t work and that’s the issue and he is trying to sort it. I don’t have any solid grounds and hence it will make me feel so guilty. I am really really struggling

    #158272
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Needthelight:

    What your son told you: “I just want to live with mummy and daddy, will it come true mum?” is very touching. It makes me wonder: what is the relationship between your current boyfriend and your son, how does your boyfriend treat your son (and how does he treat his daughters?)

    It also makes me wonder how did your son’s father treat him (the father is now in India, correct?)

    anita

    #158308
    Needthelight
    Participant

    Hi Anita,

    Their relationship is fine and my ex is here in the same city. My son n ex have a very close bond. He even likes my partners daughters to some point but he waits for them to go to their mothers house. My son lives with me full time and goes out with his dad over the weekends (during day time). My ex lives with his friends at the moment so he doesn’t want my son to stay there and his job timings also makes it difficult to manage school etc at the moment. That’s another reason I feel really bad that this restricts the time they both want to spend together. If I was by myself with my son my ex could come whenever he wants to see my son and we could even take him out on holidays together which my son longs for. I can’t do any of these because there is another man and there is jealousy. I feel restricted. And it’s logical too .. I would expect this from his ex and him. But all this makes me think that out of all the mess it’s my son who is struggling the most. Considering all his cousins and family are overseas he is just restricted to us and that too not all the time , whereas my partners daughters have both grandparents , uncles /aunts , cousin to pamper them so it doesn’t really bother them. I just don’t know how to be fair and do what I should be doing

    #158338
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Needthelight:

    I think I understand the magnitude of your heartbreak over finding out that your husband at the time had a 6.5 year relationship while being married to you. Such long term betrayal is difficult to … digest, isn’t it? And then, I understand your joy at being loved in Australia by a different man, and appreciating that love very much. I also understand your guilty feelings about the idea of ending the relationship with your current boyfriend, his feelings being hurt, his daughters being involved.

    In all this, there is one person who deserves the highest priority of consideration from you, and that person is your son. Out of all the people you are concerned about, your son is the only person that you brought into this life, into this world. He is the only person you are legally and ethically responsible for.

    Because his relationship with his father is good, and the two of them are close, and because his father would have spent much more time with your son if you didn’t live with another man, I think it is the right choice for you to have your boyfriend and daughters move out/ separate, so to make your son’s life better. What a positive, healthy experience it would be for him to see that his wish is coming true, that his feelings and his needs are so important to you that you purposefully made the changes to accommodate those, that you care so much for him!

    The decision is not easy because some people will be hurt. But your primary responsibility, far and above all responsibilities, are to your son.

    anita

    #158420
    Needthelight
    Participant

    Thanks Anita , these are exactly my feelings. But I am not getting the courage to take the step. I feel weak every time I think I should ask them to move on. This is my only struggle.

    #158492
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Needthelight:

    I hope you do get the courage to do what you believe is the right thing to do. Will it make it easier for you if you communicated in writing to your boyfriend that you need to live separately (instead of talking to him face to face)?

    I also wonder if you can stay in contact with the boyfriend, that is, not make the separation complete- live separately, let’s say, but remain in a relationship with him? This will allow the visitations between your son and his father, will make the proposed separation easier for you to bring up… would it?

    anita

    #158712
    Needthelight
    Participant

    Hi Anita,

    I did try it 13 days ago. below is my email

    You wanted to know what is stressing me so much and why am I so depressed.

    I do not want to hide it anymore or it will kill me.

    I feel guilty for lot of things.

    1. I do not feel happy love, I feel I have taken away so much from my son. He deserved so much more and I could have done that for him.
    I can’t do anything because its no more just him …. I cannot afford all the happiness for my baby the way I wanted to. When he was born , I promised myself to myself that when he is 3/4 I will start taking him for an overseas holiday atleast once a year. I wanted to show the world to him and I could easily afford to do that. But now I can’t. Even though your daughters can go and do whatever they wish to because they have so many people to fulfill their wishes. My son has just got me and I still can’t do it. I wanted to send my son to the best private school but when the time comes i again won’t be able to do it, I know that. He is my only child , I got him in my life after lots of prayers ( 7 years non-stop) and I wanted to give the world to him. I feel restricted and I want to be free to do whatever I want with my son.
    I am living with this guilt and its all my fault.
    2. My family – I miss them deeply.. you won’t even know the pain I am going through being away. I want to take care of my mother but our relationship restricts that. I know you would say its her problem. But she is the only parent I am left with and she needs me and I want to be there for her.I again feel helpless and restricted.
    3. I feel pressurized raising a family of 5, i feel tired. I am so sorry but I have to say it. Its nothing personal for u or your kids. Its just I can’t handle the pressure , the expense , the restrictions. Its killing me inside. It is very painful. I could probably never say it upfront to you on your face but I had to tell u or else I will keep punishing myself. I love u a lot ( and I love your girls too.. u know it), no one has ever loved me or cared for me the way u do and its very special to me.
    I am left here clueless what to do , how to solve these problems and I am not getting my answers. You are my best and only friend. I suffer . I need your help and not any more guilt.”

    His reply

    “I’m sorry baby I love you to0. I don’t know what to say love I guess only you can make any decisions about those things, I wish I could provide more for you, I’m sorry , your son is doing well in school though so that’s a good thing. About your mum though I don’t know what to do love .I’m sorry your family won’t accept me I just hope the tough times don’t last too long ”

    And nothing after this. I also thought this is the best way to communicate but I need his help to support my decision, but he clearly says ” he doesn’t want us to break up”

     

    #158760
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Needthelight:

    I have a few comments about the email you sent him:

    1. I believe that what is important for your son’s well being is not being able to travel once a year, to be shown the world, nor is it to go to the best private school. Being physically close to an extended family in his life is not at all necessarily a good thing for him. It is not material luxuries that will benefit your son, but relationships. What is important for your son’s well being is not for you “to show the world to him”, but for you to show your heart to him, that you see him, hear him, attend to him, feel empathy for him. And to see to it that the people you introduce into his life (strangers and family) treat him well.

    2. You wrote that you want to take care of your mother- if you want to substitute taking care of your boyfriend and his daughters with taking care of your mother, I don’t know if it is such a great idea especially because as I understand it, your mother doesn’t support you (“my family in India stopped supporting me. All I had was my partner…”). Depending on who your mother is, taking care of her, in India, I suppose, may take away even more from the time and energy that your son deserves. Being back with the family who stopped supporting you may not be a good idea.

    3. Financially and otherwise, supporting a man and his two daughters is a lot that you don’t have to keep doing. Like he wrote to you in response, “only you can make any decisions about those things”- a fair and honest response. He was very clear: he wants you in his life, living together, supporting him and his daughters. He wishes it wasn’t difficult for you, that you were happy, but he feels that he can’t do anything to help you more than what he is doing. He communicated clearly to you that these are your decisions to make. He didn’t try to make you feel guilty in his email response.

    Looking forward to your response to this very post.

    anita

    #158878
    Needthelight
    Participant

    Hi Anita,

    i understand all these that you mentioned are possibly luxury or materialistic. But these were my dreams for my only son. My partners kids get to go to holidays and do everything when they are with their mother/grandparents but I cannot plan anything because honestly I cannot afford for 5 to go on holidays. And I feel my son is deprived of all this when he shouldn’t be. It’s not fair. And my mother loves me and I love her too. She doesn’t approve of my relationship with my partner because she says I am just repeating the same pattern in my life ” husband/ partner not working and I live in stress”. I don’t plan to go to india and live but what I am today , educated &a financially independent ” is all because of my mother. My father passed away and my mother lives alone. The least I could do is to take care of her , call her here and let her relax for the rest of her life. She is and will never be a burden on me. If I was just with my son she would have come here

    #158934
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Needthelight:

    Reading the additional information you provided in your last post, seems to me that indeed, you extricating yourself from the situation you are in: spending your time and resources, material and otherwise, on taking care of this man and his two daughters, is what you need to do. You realize it yourself but as you wrote three days ago, “I feel weak every time I think I should ask them to move on. This is my only struggle.”

    In your email to him you wrote: “I need your help and not anymore guilt”- in his short email response to you he did not pressure you to stay with him via guilt or in any other way, but maybe in-person he does. I don’t know. Maybe the guilt that you feel is coming from your prior experience alone, as your mother told you, that you are just “‘repeating the same pattern in my life’ husband/ partner not working and I live in stress”- meaning you have done this before.

    Where does the guilt come from then, the feeling that it is wrong for you, an offense, for you to no longer financially provide for this man and his daughters?

    anita

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