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May 9, 2025 at 10:32 am #445517
bella0214
ParticipantI honestly have been putting this off for a really long time dealing with family dynamics.
I just don’t know where to start and how to address them all
For context – My aunt and my mom has been my go to family for most of my life. They both come from extreme traumatic life experiences — they’ve witnessed their mom take her life, her sister and her dad; domestic violence with partners and distant families/relatives. Which I know they never really got to grow up having good role models & had to fend for life most of their 20s & 30s. Today, they both have secured lifestyles — roof over their head, jobs that they keep them afloat, community that they can go share their lives with and friends they can rely on. However, their toxic past keeps showing up in ways that now I am trying to make sense of it all. I hear it from everyone — their friends, their acquaintances, their ‘once upon a time’ partners and now gone because it is was too much to handle. They both have found a way to move on with their lives choosing lifestyles like keeping themselves overly occupied, having 12-14 hours working/movement days calling it ‘productive’ until to a point they’ve exhausted their lives & can go to SLEEP thinking they were productive by keeping their bodies in motion (*eye rolling hard*); OCD behaviours with excessive cleaning / decluttering with things and their souls / minds. Anyways, now they both are going through perimenopause which makes everything that much more harder…already leading a very surface level lives but now we have something to blame as to why this is not working, or why they are constantly exhausted but won’t give up when their body’s trying to indicate ‘STOP & REST’2 days ago, I invited them over to my place that I’ve moved into with my partner. it’s been 8 months since we’ved moved and it’s our first move from paternal homes. Yes, it’s taken us both long time to make it home, let alone hosting. As they walk in the door, my aunt looked very upset and disinterested that she is invited. Now a bit of a disclaimer, My partner and I are thinking of moving of our current home and into a space that I own with my mom. We’ve had some issues in the past where one of their (My mom and aunt’s) partners tried to screw us over for wealth during a divorce and almost lost everything. Now, my aunt is upset at the fact that we haven’t disclosed to her that my partner and I are thinking of moving into the space… I understand where she is coming from but I am more practical and well versed in all of that to be able to secure ourselves from all angles. Now she is carrying this on her all this long and not communicating with me why she is upset and why she can’t think to pull me aside & have a chat about it. She is so offended that I did not share with her, something that she considers ‘life changing decision’ and apprehended that I did not care to share with her or have a word about with her which triggered her and put her in a spot that I am ridiculous of a person. What I don’t understand is, why would she not choose to come have a word with me that this is a big decision (according to her) and that it deserves to be talked about with your elders (i.e., anybody older to me, irrespective of them being senseful or not) and shared and explored options.
Fast forward, she has since been getting mad over trivial issues and going off at me for absolute reason and I am too aware but yet feel dejected for not being heard and have been avoiding entirely. This includes my mom who is only trying to blow off steam on the surface level but is completely avoiding or denying the fact that she is an enabler to many things that my aunt (her sister) does because it is easy and less chaotic / toxic.
I have just given up hope is making them understand as how toxic it is to be around them let alone have deep discussions addressing the past and acknowledging that what was experienced is unfair but is necessary to deal with and embrace that, otherwise it will continue to show up in many ways that is regretful
I just don’t know how to navigate this phase of my life where the issues are becoming evident as they continue to grow and I am feeling distant and less engaging in their lives when I should be available for both them during this tough time of their womanhood. I would love some guidance and how to go through this in phases and learning to commit to this process and not runway from it because I tend to do that a lot.
Thank you again and sorry for going off in tangents
Bella
May 9, 2025 at 4:10 pm #445524anita
ParticipantDear Bella:
I am looking forward to read your post and reply Sat morning (it is Fri afternoon here).
Anita
May 10, 2025 at 9:30 am #445546anita
ParticipantDear Bella:
As I read your post for the first time this morning, I’ll take this approach: I’ll read a sentence or a few at a time, respond to them, then move on to the next set—without knowing what comes next in your post. I’m guessing this will end up being a long response, and I hope you take your time with it.
“I honestly have been putting this off for a really long time dealing with family dynamics.” – We tend to put off things that make us anxious or uncomfortable.
“I just don’t know where to start and how to address them all.” – You’ve been dealing with a lot of family dynamics for a long time, and it makes sense that untangling them feels overwhelming.
“For context – My aunt and my mom has been my go-to family for most of my life. They both come from extreme traumatic life experiences — they’ve witnessed their mom take her life… their toxic past keeps showing up in ways that now I am trying to make sense of it all.”-
It’s interesting that you said, “My aunt and my mom has been,” instead of “have been.” Maybe it’s just a typo, but it could also suggest you see them as one unit rather than two separate people.
There’s no doubt that witnessing their mother take her life was deeply traumatic.
“I hear it from everyone… They both have found a way to move on with their lives choosing lifestyles like keeping themselves overly occupied, having 12-14 hours… they are constantly exhausted but won’t give up when their body’s trying to indicate ‘STOP & REST’.”-
“They both” – Again, this makes it sound like they are almost the same person. I wonder how they interact with each other—whether they are each other’s best friend—but I’m guessing they aren’t emotionally open with one another.
It seems like they’ve built a habit of staying constantly busy. For them, stopping to rest might feel uncomfortable, even scary.
“2 days ago, I invited them over to my place… my aunt looked very upset… What I don’t understand is, why would she not choose to come have a word with me… and shared and explored options.”-
Your aunt tends to hold in her emotions for a long time before finally expressing them in indirect ways. She never learned to communicate her thoughts and feelings clearly and directly. Some people grow up in environments where expressing emotions is discouraged, leading them to suppress their feelings instead.
When a child’s emotions are regularly dismissed, ignored, or minimized, they may come to believe that expressing themselves is pointless or unwelcome. In a chaotic home, keeping emotions inside can feel safer than adding to the existing tension. If a child’s parents struggle with emotional expression, the child doesn’t have the opportunity to learn healthy communication skills.
“Fast forward, she has since been getting mad over trivial issues and going off at me… she is an enabler to many things that my aunt (her sister) does because it is easy and less chaotic / toxic.”-
It seems like your mother avoids confronting her sister because she doesn’t want to deal with conflict or emotional tension. She enables her sister’s behavior because it keeps things smoother in the short term.
This kind of dynamic often happens when one person has a strong or overpowering personality (your aunt?), and others choose to keep the peace rather than challenge them. Your mother may find it easier to go along with things rather than stand up to her sister.
“I have just given up hope in making them understand how toxic it is to be around them, let alone have deep discussions addressing the past and acknowledging that what was experienced is unfair but is necessary to deal with and embrace that, otherwise it will continue to show up in many ways that is regretful.”-
Facing painful memories can be overwhelming, so they might choose to ignore them rather than work through their emotions. Since they’ve spent years suppressing their feelings, it probably feels unnatural—or even impossible—to suddenly start addressing them. They may not even realize how much their past experiences are affecting them.
It seems like your mother and aunt are close, but not in an emotionally open way. Their bond is likely built on shared experiences, family ties, and unspoken understanding rather than direct emotional communication. Their struggles—including financial betrayal—probably strengthened their connection, even if they don’t openly discuss their feelings. Instead of expressing frustrations, they enable each other’s behaviors and avoid certain topics altogether.
Growing up in a chaotic home can deeply shape the relationship between two sisters. Your mother and aunt both witnessed their mother’s passing, which was deeply traumatic. That experience alone likely reinforced their connection—not necessarily through emotional openness, but through unspoken understanding of their shared pain.
In chaotic families, emotions are often seen as burdens rather than something to process. Your mother and aunt may have learned that talking about painful experiences only makes things harder, so they learned to suppress their feelings instead. Over time, they likely developed certain unspoken rules, such as: “We don’t talk about painful things.”, “We keep moving forward, no matter what.”, “We support each other quietly, but we don’t challenge each other.”
Because of this, they may be emotionally close, but not open—meaning they lean on each other when necessary but avoid discussing deeper issues.
In chaotic homes, siblings often fall into specific roles to cope. Based on what you’ve described, your mother might have taken on the role of peacekeeper, choosing avoidance over confrontation to keep things smooth. Meanwhile, your aunt seems to hold onto resentment, expressing it indirectly instead of addressing things head-on. These roles reinforce each other and make emotional communication even harder.
When siblings go through trauma together, their bond can be strong but dysfunctional, such that is missing the emotional openness needed for true healing. This Trauma Bonding could explain why your mother enables her sister’s behavior—rather than challenging her, she supports her in silence, making sure things remain predictable rather than disruptive.
For both of them, their past experiences still shapes how they interact today—not through direct conversations but through quiet support, enabling behaviors, and avoidance of hard truths.
It makes sense that you feel distant from them right now. Their relationship is built on patterns that don’t allow emotional transparency, which affects you as well. If they aren’t willing to address their past or communicate openly, you may never get the deep conversations you hope for. But that doesn’t mean you can’t find peace within yourself—you can focus on protecting your own well-being rather than waiting for them to change.
“I just don’t know how to navigate this phase of my life… I would love some guidance and how to go through this in phases and learning to commit to this process and not run away from it because I tend to do that a lot.”-
It sounds like you’re in a tough spot, torn between wanting to support your mom and aunt while also feeling distant and overwhelmed by growing tensions. The fact that you recognize this and want to commit to working through it is already a big step. Here are my suggestions:
1. Accept what you can and cannot change. You can’t change your aunt or mother, and it’s unlikely you’ll make them acknowledge their past or communicate differently. However, you can change how you respond. Instead of trying to fix them, focus on setting boundaries and protecting your emotional well-being. Prioritize what brings you peace while staying true to yourself.
Letting go of the need for them to acknowledge the past—since that may never happen—can bring you closer to peace of mind.
2. Shift your mindset from ‘Fixing’ to ‘Supporting.’ Support doesn’t mean carrying the weight of their problems or trying to solve them. Sometimes, simply being present, listening, and showing empathy is enough.
You can acknowledge their feelings and offer reassurance without absorbing their stress or trying to control the outcome. This might mean stepping in when they need comfort but stepping back when the conversation becomes draining. Supporting someone doesn’t require sacrificing your own peace—it’s about being there when you can, without feeling obligated to fix what’s beyond your control.
3. Set clear boundaries to protect your well-being. Before engaging, decide in advance how much time and emotional energy you’re willing to invest. This could mean limiting interactions, choosing specific topics to discuss, or stepping back entirely when necessary. If conversations begin to feel toxic or exhausting, give yourself permission to disengage. Protecting your own emotional health isn’t selfish—it’s essential.
I hope this helps..?
“Thank you again and sorry for going off in tangents.”- You are welcome and no need to apologize. I welcome your writing and would love to read more from you!
anita
May 10, 2025 at 12:20 pm #445563Alessa
ParticipantHi Bella
Congratulations on moving into your first home! You clearly have a lot of compassion for your relatives. I think that is a beautiful thing. ❤️
It might be for the best that this happened now, before you are moved in with your mom. I expect that your mom would allow your aunt to visit frequently. It could be quite stressful for you. While you are living in your own place, you get to decide what stress you allow into your home. Something to think about.
It isn’t your fault that your aunt is behaving in this way.
It sounds like your family is rather close. Has your aunt given her opinion which she seems to be upset that she wasn’t asked for yet?
June 12, 2025 at 1:30 pm #446783anita
ParticipantHow are you, Bella?
June 17, 2025 at 11:30 am #446914bella0214
ParticipantHi Anita,
Thank you so much for checking in on me—it truly means a lot. I also really appreciate how thoughtfully you responded. The way you broke things down into paragraphs helped me feel seen and gave my thoughts the space they needed.
Lately, it’s been overwhelming—especially with everything going on with both my mom and aunt. I feel like I’m constantly going in circles with the thoughts in my head, which isn’t healthy. Every time I try to start fresh with my healing, I end up feeling even more overwhelmed.
I’ve booked a session with a therapist, and I’m hoping we’re able to connect. It’s been years of trying to find the right fit, so I’m cautiously optimistic. Putting my thoughts and feelings into words—especially on paper—feels daunting, so I often avoid it altogether.
To cope, I’ve been keeping myself busy. I’m considering a career pivot into mental health, which feels both exciting and uncertain. I’ve been volunteering with local organizations and going through training, and I’m hoping this might be the light I’ve been searching for. At the same time, I’m trying to accept my mom and aunt as they are. It hasn’t been easy—there have been arguments and emotional setbacks—but I’m trying.
Despite all this, I still find myself falling into ruts. I struggle to address everything at once and to stay disciplined in doing the inner work. So, to answer your question—how am I doing? I feel stuck, lost, and honestly, not much different than before.
Everything feels like too much. Here’s a glimpse of what I’m navigating and why I’ve been avoiding it all:
A friend from out of town has been reaching out, echoing my frustrations with my mom and encouraging me to cut ties and start over in a new city. While I know he means well—he often says I’m like the daughter he never had—his messages feel overwhelming and controlling in their own way. I had to tell him that I need to make my own decisions, on my own terms.
A long-time friendship is on the verge of ending. I’ve realized that our connection feels surface-level and inauthentic. She recently got a promotion, and I didn’t feel the need to celebrate with her. Maybe it’s jealousy, or maybe it’s the pain of feeling unseen when I’m struggling. For now, I’ve paused our communication. I want to be honest with her, but I also know she may not take it well—and I don’t have the energy to manage her emotions right now.
My relationship with my partner is strained. He’s told me I’m abusive and that I yell during conversations. I know I haven’t made space for him, and I’m tired of carrying both our emotional loads. I’m aware that I’m jeopardizing our relationship, but right now, I feel like I need to focus on understanding myself and my family dynamics before I can show up for anyone else.
So here I am—back at square one. I don’t know where to begin or how to move forward in a positive way.
I hope you’re doing well, and thank you again for being there.
June 17, 2025 at 12:25 pm #446915bella0214
ParticipantHello Alessa,
Thank you for taking the time to respond to me. Although it has been close a month now, I apologize for the delay in my response.
Thank you for well wishes and yes, I am very much an empath and for my family, I will go the extra mileI just think they both operate together on most occasions and my aunt especially has lost her own identity in seeking this comfort and being on for my mother, because their story is almost so similar from losing their parents and a sibling to losing their partners. Somewhere along that journey, my aunt has equally influenced my mom to wear this armor of ‘nothing can be done and no one can’ & is functioning is a very fight or flight mode.
I don’t know we are close (mentally) but definitely external. We almost do everything together – like meet on weekends, go over to my mom’s or aunt’s place and they both show their love through cooking, so much so its suffocating LOL
She gave her opinion to my mom and not me because she was more petrified at the fact that I didn’t share with her and she is clearly punishing me for that. I didn’t make too much of it because I don’t think I need her opinion or so, especially when she hasn’t been there for biggest decisions of my life like school, or work etc.,
I just think she just wants drama and finds it entertaining almost on finding faults in me. She is that one family member who thinks everyone is at fault and everyone is living miserably except her.
June 17, 2025 at 4:32 pm #446916anita
ParticipantDear Bella:
You’re so welcome—and it’s truly good to hear from you.
Your words don’t sound like someone “back at square one”—they sound like someone trying to build a square that’s finally hers.
What stands out most is the quiet tug-of-war you’re carrying: “I’m trying to accept my mom and aunt as they are… but I feel stuck, lost, and not much different than before.”-
That’s such an honest tension—loving the people who shaped you while trying not to lose shape yourself.
When everything feels like too much, I often return to a familiar line that helps sort through the fog. I wonder how this one lands for you right now:
* God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference.
Here are a few things you can’t control when it comes to your mom and aunt: the unspoken wounds they carry, their coping mechanisms, avoidance, or exhaustion, the roles they expect you to inhabit, and whether or not they choose honesty or growth.
And here are a few things you might be able to control: how and when you engage with them, what expectations you choose to release, how much space you offer their opinions inside your inner world, and the energy you give to explaining yourself to those unwilling to understand
Maybe a gentler version of the prayer could be: * Help me hold what’s mine without carrying what isn’t.
I see someone who’s noticing what no longer fits and still choosing to stay present—not perfectly, but with deep intention. That’s not failure. That’s self-respect, growing stronger even in the rubble.
Would it help to name just one thing that feels in your control this week?
With you in this, Anita 🫶🏽
June 18, 2025 at 12:28 pm #446940anita
ParticipantDear Bella:
I just sent a poem to another member in his own thread and thought you might appreciate a poem in your own thread. I’ll title it:
Navigating Generational Trauma-
You were born into a story already burning, a house of echoes, a lineage wired for survival.
But you— you are not the fire that scorched them. You are the one carrying water.So here you stand, palms open, voice faltering, trying to love without disappearing.
This—this square you are building— it is no one’s but yours. Not framed in their expectations,
Not floored with their pain, not bricked with their rage, not mortared with guilt.It is yours. To decorate or dismantle. To welcome or close.
To sit in stillness and call it home.Let your “no” mean no more passing this down.
Let your “yes” mean: only if it frees me too.
Let your love be honest— but never codependent.
Let your story remember them without becoming them.This isn’t abandoning your blood.
It’s tending to your own.You are not “back at square one.”
You are finally building the square where your own life begins.Anita
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