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  • #136435
    Cheryl
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    Dear friends,

    To share my story in short, through I never expected, but still I had an affair with a married man who is my best friends husband. They both are lovers before I meet them, and later we 3 became best friends. Eventually due to many reasons he had affair with me though I know its wrong, later I only made their marriage, because I know that its a sin to expect my best friends boy friend. But again due to many reasons I continued that relationship more than 10 years with out marrying anyone by playing many dramas and lies to my friend and parents. I promised him that i’ll stay with him forever(we played dramas for this), so now for many years i started staying in their house itself because he cannot live without me(also he wants to take my responsibility), He is really a good human being but still we made this mistake. But I have below problems to continue staying in his house.

    1. I always think that I should not dominate his wife in any situation(because first wife cannot control her pain if other women is ruling/take decisions in her house). So I use to simply obey what ever she says(like what time to wake up, when to eat, where to sit, what to do etc). But as I am also human I am unable to digest to get approval from her for what ever I do daily for each second. So I came into lot of dissatisfaction stage. But even then I dont want to say NO to her decision even if she asks me to drink coffee not tea.

    2.They had a son of 5 yrs who likes me so much because I show love and responsibility and i too like him. Since the boy is very small i think you people know how much tuff it is to handle. I have to get permission from her to get a chocolate, switch on TV(she says no this is not the time to watch TV), change clothes(she says no not this dress if I select,and selects other dress), to get some toys(do i need to get economic toy or costly toy), and so many for each second. On top of this I have to pamper/love the boy else that kid will be angry with me. So eventually instead of showing my true love, I started acting with boy. So how long can I really act love, what if the boy become adult observe that I am acting and if he feels my love is fake and hates me. (But she is very good women but all these happens to me in every family but my situation is different here because I get depressed that I have to take permission for and everything)

    3. Can I be happy at least with my husband(because of some reasons she is ready to get him to marry me as second wife). Because no women in this world digest if another women is taking care, loving and sleeping with his husband just in front her. So again I have to act infront of her so that I do not hurt her. But how long can I act and adjust myself.

    4. I am feeling very lonely in their house because no body pay attention to my talks(i think my talks are not interesting that’s why no body listen to me outside also), I cannot share my happy/sad/depress feelings(like what happened today in office or on the way etc) to anyone in that house but still I should act like I am perfect and happy. Can I keep doing this through out my life.

    5. As I made my parents suffer a lot, I had a lot of guilt within me so I wants to make them happy by showing them that not to worry about me because I got good husband and house to survive my life. And I like my siblings a lot and they are very innocent, so I always have the urge to takecare of them by keeping in touch regularly to advice them and even I love to spend time with them. But since I played lot of dramas and lie, initially we both planned to not communicate with them, but after so many years also he didn’t like to have communication with them(later as I fought he agreed to communicate) but I started communicating with them but he misunderstood that I like them too much. So eventually though I get opportunity to speak with my siblings I started acting with them as well as he do not like communicating with them.

    So I tried many times to break up this relationship, but he is emotionally getting depressed and loosing his health (these are the reasons that I continued this relation for these many years). So i am afraid that if he had some health issues then what happens to their family. So i decide to stay in their house itself, but again due above problems I am not able to stay.

    So in short I spoiled his life thinking that I am saving him/his family’s life.
    So please tell me, should i need to leave their house or stay back in their house(by consulting some psychiatrist to solve all above misunderstanding problems). Please suggest as its a life matters that I am unable to decide what is right to do.

    I am in great guilt/depression that I spoiled his life (though I am not worried that I also spoiled my life on the other side)(even if i leave their house I don’t want to marry anyone and wants to be single though I am scared to live single through out life).

    #136543
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Cheryl:

    As I understand the situation, you are currently living as an unofficial “second wife” to a man with whom you have been having a physically intimate relationship for ten years while he was married to his (first) wife. You are living with the husband, his first wife and their five year old son. You are not having physically intimate relationship with the husband in front of the first wife, but when she is not present (correct?) First wife knows of the relationship between you and the husband, but there is no mention of it (correct?)

    The husband tells you, and you believe him, that he cannot live without you, and that if you end the relationship he will get sick and die. So you keep the relationship going so to save his life and protect his (first) wife and son from losing him.

    And then, you are obedient to first wife: you “obey what ever she says (like what time to wake up, when to eat, where to sit, what to do etc)…I have to get permission from her to get a chocolate, switch on TV (she says no this is not the time to watch TV), change clothes(she says no not this dress if I select, and selects other dress), to get some toy…I get depressed that I have to take permission for and everything)”

    And as you interact with the five year old, you do everything he wants you to do, as I understand it, so that he will not be angry with you.

    You feel “very lonely in their house because no body pay attention to my talks… I cannot share my happy/sad/depress feelings(like what happened today in office or on the way etc) to anyone in that house but still I should act like I am perfect and happy.”

    My thoughts: the positive part in your story is that you are working (“what happened today in office”) and earning your own money, correct? If so, this is good news because you can financially survive if you move out of this house and if you end this relationship with the husband.

    When the husband told you that he will die if you end the relationship with him by getting sick- he lied. If you end the relationship with him, he will survive it. His wife and son will still have him as husband and father. If by some … strangeness of coincidences he gets sick, that will not be your responsibility.

    Clearly, this arrangement is unhealthy for you: you have no one to talk to, and you do not have the freedom to make the simplest choices. You have to ask permission for anything and everything.

    I hope you leave this house as soon as possible, end the relationship with this man as soon as possible and live on your own as soon as possible.

    I hope you post again.

    anita

     

     

    #136555
    Cheryl
    Participant

    Thanks a lot anita for your reply .

    I wants to come out house only…but

    he already advancing diabetic stages — so if i leave, though he atleast struggle to settle their family, because of the mental depression, will his health spoil soon right. so it is a sin that is caused by me only right. Why because he loves me so much, cannot live with me and he also thinking that because of him only my life spoiled, so for this also he is going under mental depression. So when someone is truly loving me if I reject him(and leave to him to death) will that be not a selfish ? Don’t I deserve sin? will it be like I am playing with his love feelings and cheat him ? Why because we initially planned and I promised him that I’ll stay lifelong with him ? I am feeling so guilty of all these, especially his career and health.

     

    #136557
    Cheryl
    Participant

    And his wife do not know about our affair, she is under impression that she is giving shelter to me.

    #136559
    Cheryl
    Participant

    Anita…thanks once again for calling me as ‘second wife’ instead of ‘affair’ (because after googling so many threads I got used to the word ‘affair’) ….thanks once again for respecting my relation and feelings.

    #136569
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Cheryl:

    You are welcome. Glad you posted again.

    You asked in your last posts: “when someone is truly loving me if I reject him(and leave to him to death) will that be not a selfish ?”

    1. You are not responsible for his diabetes. You didn’t cause him diabetes. It is none of your doing. In other words: you are not guilty of his diabetes.

    2. You cannot cure his diabetes. You cannot heal him from his diabetes. If he dies from his diabetes, it will not be a failing on your part; it will not be something you did wrong. You will not be guilty.

    3. The one who is selfish is him, the man. Because you are suffering living in his house. A loving man is not a man who encourages his loved one to suffer. A loving man encourages his loved one to have a good life, to be free, not enslaved.

    * You asked: “Don’t I deserve sin?” -no, you don’t deserve punishment if you end the relationship with him and leave his house. You are already being punished every day living there, being enslaved, following orders, having no  one to talk to, being so lonely.

    * You asked: “will it be like I am playing with his love feelings and cheat him ?” – no. He is cheating you out of your freedom, out of a better life. A life away from him will be far from perfect, but it will be better than this. He is cheating you out of a better life.

    * You asked: “Why because we initially planned and I promised him that I’ll stay lifelong with him ?”- it is okay for you to break this promise because your promise was based on a misunderstanding. The misunderstanding was that you are responsible for his diabetes. This misunderstanding was based on him telling you a lie. Because he lied to you (telling you that he will not be able to live without you, that he will die if you leave), you are free from keeping your promise. When a promise is based on a lie, it does not need to be kept.

    You wrote: “I am feeling so guilty of all these, especially his career and health”- you feel guilty, so you believe you are guilty. But you are not, in reality, guilty.

    Post again, if you’d like, as often as you would.

    anita

    #136585
    Cheryl
    Participant

    Anita….you are my Godess mother !! Why because after these many years of silence I got one person in this universe to really share my feelings as it is without any morphing.

    The other thing is that, the last 10 years he is focusing on me only, he rejected many onsite offers because he don’t wants to leave me and also not fully concentrated on his career.

    And due to his diabetic condition(that time we not taken promise to stay in his house life long, and that time only he got diabetic because he was under great depression of loosing in case if I get marry someone else) he also not planned for second kid. But I strongly opposed him and to have second kid that time, but he said many reasons like no companion is required(because no siblings take each other responsibility) and I am diabetic so I cannot guarantee my career to settle two kids and I do not have interest on life without you. Now after I strongly fighting to come out, they are planning for second kid to give companion to the first kid. I believe all these are really true, so I am really feeling guilt that why I came into his life and spoiled his life.

    In addition, his wife is all innocent whom we both cheated her saying we are best friends etc. Now I am coming out of their house saying I am not happy in your house who gave shelter thinking i am in problems(we lied). so I am really feeling so bad that making her also unhappy and this sad feeling will be there in their life long right.

    Thanks once again !!

    #136589
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Cheryl:

    You are welcome, and thank you for your kind words.

    You wrote: “…the last 10 years he is focusing on me only, he rejected many onsite offers because he don’t wants to leave me and also not fully concentrated on his career.”- his choices are HIS choices. He is responsible for having made them, not you.

    I will give you an example: let’s say I am so moved by your thread that I want to help you more than just answering it. Let’s say I get the feeling that you live in … Australia (this is only an example). Next I sell all my possessions, buy an airplane ticket to Australia, fly there, and look for you. Next, I spend the next ten years of my life looking for you, traveling from place to place, suffering many hardships. Finally I find you. When I find you, I tell you: “you owe me for my airline ticket to Australia, for all my possessions that I sold, and for my ten years of hardship looking for you.”

    My question for you, Cheryl, is: will I be correct in my claim? Will you owe me for any of the things I mentioned which I chose to do?

    (Regarding the last part of your post, his wife, we can discuss it later).

    Waiting for your answer.

    anita

     

     

    #136591
    Cheryl
    Participant

    Thanks for the reply Anita !!

    To answer your question, what I feel is(when I related to my story) I know that you are selling possession, flying, searching out hardly  for 10 years. I cannot even dare to tell you that don’t search for me because you(he) so angry person and do not even given me a chance to tell you(he) that don’t do all these which is incorrect though you want to help(love) me. Since I kept silent(due to whatever reason) and troubling all these years(also dragged their family into situation)(thinking I am making you happy that you want to meet(love) me)…so will that be not punishable anita.

    I am sorry, if i hurt any where while I try to explain my situation !! Thanks for understanding !!

    #136593
    Cheryl
    Participant

    To add, you(he) finally met me after 10 years…then I said no i cannot take your help(love him and stay in house) and then I am going away.

    #136605
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Cheryl:

    So what you are saying is that in my example, you will not be responsible for my choices because you did not have the opportunity to tell me NOT to do these things. But as far as your ten year relationship, you remained silent, or cooperated with him, made your own choices, so you feel responsible, correct?

     

    If I understood you correctly, then I agree, you are responsible for your participation in the relationship, for what you said and did and what you still say and do. And for what you choose not to say and do.

    And you are still NOT responsible for what he says and does throughout these ten years.

    If you become clear on who is responsible for what, you will know what to do next.

    Some of the mess created was your doing and the right thing to do would be to correct it best you can. Some of the mess created is his doing, and it would be his responsibility to correct it best he can. You can’t make him do so, but you can do your part. Once you do your part to correct your poor choices, then you will be free of real guilt.

    You did wrong to his wife by lying to her saying you are in her house to seek shelter.  You need to correct that. Not necessarily by telling her it was a lie, but by moving out. It will be wrong of you to stay because you are there based on a lie.

    It is wrong of you to interact with their son, having to avoid his anger. That is causing you resentment. It is not a healthy relationship. To correct this, do move out and no longer interact with the child.

    The man and his wife decided to have another child, as I understood it. Not a good choice, I think. But it was THEIR choice, not yours and there is nothing you can do about it.

    Leaving that house and ending the relationship with the man is the best you can do, I strongly believe, to “save (this) family”- the title of your thread.

    Will you do that?

    anita

    #136611
    Cheryl
    Participant

    Anita…you really read my mind and I agree with all of your words (except I still feel that I should have not been silent that time while I am daring to tell now after all these mess in both of our life).

    Even I too thought that, though i was silent that time, though i was/not reason for diabetic, not planning second kid in past, though i promised him, though i took his responsibility….at the end of the day I am also a very very ordinary human being, that now I am unable to help continue our relation. Even I strongly believe that two wifes in single house will be definitely a mess because either one wife is has to adjust in all and definitely that will be me where I lost all my strength to bear pain now itself. Even if he marry me, then for sure first wife eventually gets ego problems and finally we all go into mess. And so the kids happy life also get spoil.

    That is the reason for past 3 years I tightly hold my heart to go away though he initially miss me lot I wish he has to get over that to live for their family. So instead of simply breaking up in one day I took the responsibility to made him to understand my pain, and that he should take his responsibility of first wife and kids future, but not running around me. Finally now I made him to accept the truth to quit at least to save the remaining future of my friend and kid. I made it, so this way i really feel happy because i didn’t run away from him by simply saying bye in one day, I spent 3 years of my time with lots of patience and pain(to leave him though I don’t want because I know I do not marry anyone else).

    But still I afraid of his health and career, and guilt of being silent in the beginning is killing me.

    #136617
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Cheryl:

    We all do things we regret, make poor choices. Lots of people are burdened with guilt. We have to endure the regret and the guilt. Don’t we all wish to NOT feel these very uncomfortable feelings, but we cannot wish them away, therefore we have to endure them. You already proved to yourself that you can endure pain, so extend that endurance to your guilt and regret.

    You wrote that the  “guilt of being silent in the beginning is killing me”- it will not kill you. It just feels badly. But notice: if you feel guilty for being silent in the beginning, aren’t you feeling guilty for being silent now?

    You may be guilty for being silent before, and today. But you will NOT be guilty if you are not silent in the future, that is, if you leave and will no longer live there.

    You explained to him best you can all you could explain, and now, it is time for you to do what is right for you and for all involved, according to your understanding.

    Till your next post-

    anita

     

     

     

     

     

    #136631
    Cheryl
    Participant

    Thanks Anita !!

    Now am I totally cut the relation, made him to take up their family responsibility (though initially he miss me)….— this is the decision I took very boldly and made it happen. and I little bit got relief that my decision is right at least now and i was able correct my mistake a dot.

    On the other hand, I am completely shattered and missing him a lot and going through lot of depression stage. However I have below options currently:

    1.live without marrying anyone: But I am worried that how can I live alone as I am very much scared of  abusive mens. I have great interest to serve the society as much as I can, but as alone I cannot think of it also(that is my attitude). How can I live alone without any responsibility and who will takecare me during my old age.
    2. Marry someone: if I make-up my mind to marry another guy then can I be able to succeed it. Because may be the fault is with me only that is the reason I am not able to live in his house under his love and affection, but not ready to face the insults. May be I dont know how to adjust and how to run family. So can I be able to live with a new guy whom I gets marry only for the sake of marriage and social security. So what if I spoil that marriage also and that new guy’s life also spoil as if I cannot forget this ex-lover. In addition, should I tell my relation story upfront to him before marriage, and then who will marry me after 10 years of relation? If someone marry me knowing my background also, in future if he criticise my character then for sure I feel hell. And for sure I know that in every situation I’ll compare my future husband with my ex. So isn’t that a sin that I cheat my future husband? And also I many times told to him that I cann’t marry another guy because I can only love you(of course its fact not lie). On the other hand, because of his health if he dies soon, then I think I cannot live happy married life. So I want to live alone, but again I am scared of living alone.

    3. Get suicide: This is the best solution according to me. But after these many years I learnt little philosophy, so I understood that suicide is a sin so wants to do some meaningful thing till i get natural death. But scared of living alone and cannot marry. So only option for me is suicide forgetting the sin as I failed in all aspects of my life. Because I am very much anger on myself about my super over honesty.

     

    #136637
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Cheryl:

    I read part of your last post. I need to take a break before answering it, as it is of a very serious and important nature- it is about your life.

    Will be back when I am calm and refreshed. I may answer a thread or two that require short posts first.

    anita

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