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    noepiphany37
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    A brief history of my relationships.

    I don’t think I’ve been strongly in love before. I am a 30 yo male and have had 3 previous relationships in my life and have broken up with each of them. I have never felt like I couldn’t go on without them. I have never fallen hard for anyone. I’ve have pined after girls, but have never really pursued any relationships. All my relationships came about through the girl involved pursuing me.

    I cheated on my last girlfriend once whilst I was away travelling for 3 months. We had been together a year at that point. I was really drunk but I wanted to do it. I rationalised whilst drunk that I would be able to forgive myself. We were together for 3 and a half years. I never told her about it. I was subsequently bombarded by guilt and  regretted it deeply. I hoped the guilt would go and tried to live with it. She was the closest I came to loving. I felt strongly about her and we told each other as loved each other. my behaviour suggests that I didn’t really care for her enough. Not being able to live with the guilt but not wanting to tell her was one of the driving forces in me breaking up .

    I was a bit of a late starter and didn’t lose my virginity until I was 19. I got into 2 relationships whilst at university but they were more because I fancied the girls and felt that I wanted to catch up sexually .

    In every relationship, even the 2 short term ones at university , it’s been agonising to end them. Ive always worried that I might be ending it with the one or throwing away something good that I just couldn’t see. I blamed myself for not feeling it. In retrospect I don’t really regret ending any of them.

    In my current relationship we’ve been together for 8 months and I feel like I want out. I don’t love her fundamentally. She knows this.

    I asked why she’s still with  a me, and she said she’s sticking around in the hope that I’ll change my feelings for her. She says she loves me. I think it’s a disservice to her if I stay with her. I’m seeing more and more that relationships take a lot of work and both parties need to want it. I don’t think I’ve ever wanted it enough in any relationship.

    We live together. She moved in just under 3 months a go.  I own a flat, and she was living in a house share which disbanded. She said she didn’t want to live in house shares anymore and said she would either live with me or return home to her family in Manchester (we’re in London). I was reluctant to go ahead with it and she knew that but said we could give it a try.

    we bicker a lot about house stuff but We’ve had good times and we get along pretty well all in all. Fundamentally I don’t feel like I want to be there. I got into this relationship 3 months after breaking up with my ex of 3 and a half years , so in retrospect this was far too soon. I found my current partner really attractive and just wanted to see where it went.

    I don’t think I’ve wanted any relationship I’ve been in enough. I’ve never harboured a great desire to be married or have kids – at least not yet. Ive always figured that those things might happen in the future but I’ve never had the sense that I want them in the near future.Maybe that’s something that’s driven my ambivalence in relationships.

    I’m worried that when it comes to relationships I’m never going to be satisfied.  This current relationship is the first time I’ve lived with a partner for a prolonged period and it’s highlighted how petty and pedantic I can be (with things like trying  reducing energy consumption and penny pinching in order to save money ). I’m very frugal and she’s quite profligate so we clash there.

    Maybe I’m too guarded to fall for anyone. I’ve always been independent and easy going . I’ve always been wary of love and of falling too hard. But this does not bode well with any future relationship . My family never really expressed much love openly and I get the sense that my dad could quite happily survive on his own. This might be mistaken. My parents are still together and have been married a long time. They do work well together. I guess I feel there’s something wrong with me for not wanting to be in a relationships enough. I second guess myself and worry that I’m turning down good relationships. I worry about being alone in the future because of the way I am. My parents are very practical. They didn’t really express much love so perhaps I’ve taken on the message that relationships are things that you just get on with and stick at. I really don’t know.

    Is there something wrong with me for never having fallen in love ?

    #166100
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear noepiphany37:

    There is the main issue and a side issue, as I see it. First the side issue-

    You wrote regarding your current live-in girlfriend: “I think it’s a disservice to her if I stay with her… I own a flat, and she was living in a house share which disbanded. She said she didn’t want to live in house shares anymore and said she would either live with me or return home to her family”-

    Consider that she believes it is a good deal for her because she gets to live in London, where I suppose she prefers to live, maybe not paying any rent to you or very little, compared to ongoing rents, and she gets to live with an easy-going boyfriend who, feeling guilty, is eager, I am supposing, to accommodate her. That is preferable to living with hard to get along with flat mates. (Living with her might be a disservice to you).

    The main issue. You wrote, not necessarily in this order: “I blamed myself for not feelin it… I feel there’s something wrong with me for not wanting to be in a relationships enough…Is there something wrong with me for never having fallen in love?”-

    You feel what you feel and there is nothing wrong with your feelings. There is no “should” to feelings. Your feelings are not outside the human experience, not abnormal or unnatural or wrong.

    I am guessing that as a child, you reached out to your parents for comfort, for love (as children naturally do) and it didn’t work out for you, you didn’t get what you needed, not to the extent a child needs. It was difficult work to reach out to them again and again, with no satisfying results, so you adjusted, needing less, wanting less (feeling less). That was easier and so, you were able to be as easy going as you are. If this is true, then you naturally and automatically reacted to the home where you grew up. Nothing weird about your automatic, human reaction.

    Let me know, if you will, your thoughts/ feelings regarding my input and otherwise.

    anita

     

     

    #166116
    Peter
    Participant

    Each of us is unique and love is experienced and expressed on many different levels. Most of us, when we talk about love are often talking about something else like relationship, living together, sex… all components of love but never the complete picture in and of themselves.

    If your a thinking type that likes to analyze feelings and have a concept of love that is romanticized perhaps seeking that feeling of being overwhelmed by the need for someone – and calling that love. Your probably going to be disappointed.  I think a place to start is defining for yourself what love is and then not overthink it.

    #166144
    noepiphany37
    Participant

    @ Anita: thanks for coming back.

    yes its true, its much cheaper for her living here. I guess i’m not so easy going sometimes when it comes to things like consumption and food shopping. i’ve noticed that i’m quite controlling with money, particularly food shopping. i often request that we go half on all the food items, but she says that i’m quite stingy and calculating when it comes to money, and that because i’m earning more i should cut her some slack.

    i guess you’re right. i lack self acceptance to some extent and sometimes look externally for a model of how i should feel and what i should do. I see a lot of my peers in seemingly functional relationships and think that should be available for me. i guess i’m trying to fit myself into something that part of me doesnt want enough. i guess all my motivations for staying in this relationship right now are based on how i’m scared that this might be the way for me in every relationship and so i might as well stay in this one.  i also fear not being able to meet someone in the future. Additionally i fear the rigmarole of having to break up while living together, and the disorientation and likely self loathing that seems to emerge for me after each break up ive been through. it’s a very fearful process but i guess i need to do it.

    I’ve noticed a dynamic in my relationships where if my partner expresses a lot of warmth, closeness, dependency, or makes grand proclamations for our future together i recoil a bit. however, if they show signs that they are distancing themselves, i step up the effort and fear abandonment.

    in terms of my family, i dont remember much affection. i guess my family aren’t really expressive in that sense, and don’t really talk too much of emotions. I’m not particularly close with them and keep them at a slight distance. i show up enough in their lives to maintain a relationship i suppose.

     

    @ peter

    thank you for you input. i guess i wasnt really shown much of a model of love growing up. i have never, however, thought of defining love for myself. i always thought it would be something organic that i would be overcome with as a relationship progressed. love to me is vulnerability, is throwing everything into this other person knowing it may be unrequited. i guess thats never appealed.

     

    #166202
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear noepiphany37:

    You wrote that you “lack self acceptance”. Notice that when your girlfriend tells you that you are “quite stingy and calculating when it comes to money”, she expresses her lack of acceptance of you. She expresses disapproval of you. I think that you need a girlfriend who will accept you just as you are. After all, if it is indeed “much cheaper for her living here”, maybe she should cut you more slack.

    You listed three reasons for staying with your girlfriend:  you fear that every relationship will be unsatisfactory for you, you fear that you will not meet another woman in the future, and you fear it will be too much of a rigmarole to break up.

    You wrote that when your partner expresses lots of warmth, you recoil. Recoiling is a fear reaction. When your partner distances herself you fear abandonment. Again, fear seems to be your dominant motivator.

    Back to the title of your thread: “is something wrong?”- my answer at this point is: too much fear, being motivated by fear.

    Have you considered quality psychotherapy to examine and gently, in a supportive, therapeutic setting, confront your fears?

    anita

     

    #166186
    Deepika Gautam
    Participant

    Whosoever you are. YOU ARE SO ME.
    I feel the same. And I’m literally afraid that I’m not gonna fall in love ever.

    #166394
    noepiphany37
    Participant

     

    hi anita,

    that’s a good summary. Yes there’s a lot of fear driving me. I have tried therapy on a number of occasions, but it hasn’t helped that much. i think it has provided me with insight, but that insight hasn’t alone does not bring about change. that said i do have a much healthier relationship with myself than i used to.

    @ deepika:

    thank you. its nice to know i’m not the only one.

    #166512
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear noepiphany:

    I understand, insight not being enough to bring about change. There is more to changing than insight, it is the practicing of new thinking and new behaving, daily, ongoing that slowly, over time brings about noticeable change.

    anita

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