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  • #441600
    anita
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    Dear Peter;

    I am glad that you applied The Rule of Charity to Cute! I will reply further Thurs morning

    Anita

    #441613
    anita
    Participant

    Dear Peter:

    I admire your commitment to self-reflection and growth. The exercises you mentioned are intriguing ways to explore and appreciate your past without being constrained by it.

    “It might be interesting exercises to try to re-write the old stories or journal entries while trying to avoid labeling language. My first attempts were surprising. Without the labels it seems to free the memories, allowing them to flow…. they didn’t become the emotions in the moment, so I didn’t relive the experience by bring the past into the present”-

    – okay, I just dug into the very thick folder of my journal entries and typed out this portion of what I shared on May 18, 2013 in regard to my mother, with whom I was still in contact at the time, exactly as it appears on the paper: “Once somebody has hurt you TOO MUCH, for TOO LONG, TOO OFTEN, TOO COMPEHENSIVELY, TOO PERSISTENTLY, TOO BLINDLY to your suffering, and with NO APOLOGIES, NO ASKING FOR FORGIVENESS…, you don’t want any contact with that person… Any such contact is humiliating and a further victimization to the victim of the perpetrator… It is infuriating to me, the perpetrator’s expectation, as well as society’s expectation, that I continue contact with my perpetrator because she is my mother… No contact is necessary for me… for my sense of self-respect, self-compassion- for my sense that I am taking a stand. For as long as I continue contact, I deny and minimize my own experience of so many years. I deny and minimize my decades-old desire to have no contact with her. I NEED to have no contact with her and in so doing TAKE A STAND. Be believable in that she really, really hurt me”.

    In the above entry, there are many labeling words, and in big case letters. Some of them are: “TOO MUCH, for TOO LONG, TOO OFTEN, TOO COMPREHENSIVELY, TOO PERSISTENTLY, TOO BLINDLY”- words that emphasize the extent and intensity of the hurt I experienced; “NO APOLOGIES, NO ASKING FOR FORGIVENESS”- words that highlight the lack of remorse or acknowledgment from my perpetrator; “humiliating”- a word that conveys a strong negative judgment about the contact with her; “infuriating”- a word that describes my intense emotional reaction to the societal and perpetrator’s expectations to maintain contact; “perpetrator”- a word that assigns a specific role to the person who caused harm; “victim”- a label assigns a specific role to the person who suffered harm.

    There are advantages of using labeling language in contexts as in the above: it helps to clearly express the intensity and nature of emotions. Words like “infuriating,” “humiliating,” and “victimization” communicate strong feelings and make it evident how deeply I was affected by her. By using these labels, I tried to validate my own emotions and experiences (something extremely important in the face of lacking external validation). These labels provided immediate context and understanding to anyone reading these words: words like “perpetrator” and “victim” quickly establish the roles and dynamics in the situation.

    My labeling language communicated the severity of my experiences. Repeating words like “TOO MUCH,” “TOO LONG,” and “NO APOLOGIES” highlights the persistent and comprehensive nature of the harm.

    I needed to use labeling language to effectively communicate (or try to communicate) the depth and extent of the hurt I experienced. It helped me to articulate the profound impact of the abuse and neglect I endured. By labeling my experiences, I was seeking recognition and validation of my suffering (seeking my own recognition and validation and that of anyone reading or listening to me), trying to ensure that my pain is acknowledged and taken seriously. It helped me assert my need for no contact as a necessary boundary for my well-being. It communicated the importance of this boundary clearly and strongly.

    Labeling my experiences empowered me to take a stand. It reinforced my decision to protect myself from further harm, and it helped me to challenge societal expectations that I should maintain contact with my perpetrator. It highlighted the injustice of these expectations and reinforces my right to prioritize my own well-being.

    Labels like “infuriating” and “humiliating” communicate the injustice and absurdity of being expected to maintain contact with someone who caused significant harm.

    If I was to re-write the above (today) without labeling language, it’d be something like this: “My mother caused me significant and repeated harm over a long period, without acknowledging my suffering or seeking forgiveness, and maintaining contact with her was extremely challenging. The contact with her felt disempowering and harmful. I find it difficult to accept the expectation from both my mother and society that I should continue contact because she is my mother. Establishing no contact is important for my sense of self-respect and self-compassion, and it allows me to assert my boundaries. Continuing contact means diminishing my own experiences and long-held desire for separation. I need to establish no contact to honor my own feelings and experiences and to acknowledge the impact of the harm I have endured.”-

    – By removing labeling words, the narrative becomes more neutral and objective, and it encourages you, the reader, to interpret my experiences and emotions based on your own perspectives, without being influenced by my pre-assigned judgments.

    Removing these labeling words is supposed to (so I am reading online this morning) support my healing process by allowing me to process my experiences without being overwhelmed by the intensity of labeling judgments. Without labeling, there is supposed to be a sense of emotional detachment from the events, which can make it easier to process and reflect on them without being overwhelmed.

    To the right above, I say this morning, more than 11 years since my massively LABELING writing above, that using non-labeling, more neutral and objective language would have harmed me, because I desperately needed MY voice to be heard. Following a lifetime of not being seen or heard, I (me, myself) needed to be seen and heard.

    Fast forward, now, being that I did cut contact with my mother shortly after that journal entry (May 2013), now that I did protect myself, I can see the benefit in using non-labeling language because it allows the reader to feel what he/ she would feel, based on his/ her life experience, reading about my experience, and not feel weighed down/ limited by my strong emotions.

    Although I see it as a disadvantage to un-label my journal entry back on May 18, 2013, I see un-labeling advantageous in the context of much lesser impactful interactions with people. Example, an original journal entry: “I felt so angry when my friend didn’t show up for our meeting. It was so rude and disrespectful of her. I can’t believe how thoughtless she is. This always happens, and it’s incredibly frustrating. I always feel like I’m the one who cares more in this friendship.”

    Rewritten without labeling language: “When my friend didn’t show up for our meeting, there was a strong emotional response within me. The situation triggered a reaction where I experienced intense feelings. I noticed that this event reminded me of past experiences where I felt similarly. It seems like I often find myself in situations where I question the dynamics of my friendships, and the level of care involved.”

    In the revised version, the emotional reactions and thoughts are described without labeling the emotions as “angry”, “rude”, “disrespectful”, “thoughtless”, or “frustrating”. Instead, the focus is on the experience and observation of the emotions, allowing for a more neutral and reflective narrative. If the revisited version is followed by The Rule of Charity, let’s say, it can lead to a more balanced and true perception of the friend, leading to empathy and calming the anger.

    On the other hand, empathy for my mother was the ongoing experience that has kept me in contact with her for way too long. More empathy for her in 2013, would have kept me imprisoned for longer, making it a lifetime of devastation for me.

    See, I just used strong, labeling words: “a lifetime of devastation”, and I used those words because my mother has been, truly, a lifetime devastation for me: although much healing has been done, still- every day, almost every moment of every day- I experience an intense physical tension, a physical disquiet that accompanies these tics- my left shoulder twitching just now, here’s a tic involving my neck, here’s the usual trouble to extend my belly so to breathe comfortably. This is a physical- neurological and permanent damage that my mother inflicted on me.

    It is not possible for me to undo/ reverse this particular damage- no matter what I do or don’t do, and for how long- same as a victim of chronic neurotoxicity (long-term damage to the nervous system caused by exposure to toxic substances, an irreversible damage which includes symptoms like tremors, rigidity, and involuntary movements) cannot undo or reverse their damage, no matter how much and for how long they try, no matter how much anger they release, no matter how much therapy they receive. Some things can’t be reversed.

    Another permanent damage is my ADHD and learning disabilities (trouble with memory and processing information), which is the reason why I write (or type) so much, ever since I was able to write. It helps me process information. And processed, I forget and have to re-process. Actually, I just exhausted myself processing and typing so much in this post. I hope that it wasn’t too for you, Peter? If you’d like, I can submit shorter posts for you in the future.

    anita

    #441623
    Peter
    Participant

    Hi Anita
    I can image that was exhausting. I’m sorry you had that experience but thanks for sharing the example.

    One of the things that stood out to me between the two versions was that in the non-labeling version there was no sense of victim villain feel.

    Looking at my old stories, and not so old ones, they are filled with the victim and villain feel. Now that time has past, if I create the more neutral version I feel I can let it go in that and so stop telling it.

    Looking back at the old journal entries the stories that I kept retelling stand out. It seems I was very much attached to the emotions retelling them invoked. In hindsight I’m wondering if I felt that I needed to feel the emotions and stay angry to justify the boundaries was was creating. (I notice today, not always healthy boundaries)

    Now that time has passed do you feel you need the labeling experience to maintain and or justify the boundaries you created?
    I still have a few stories I can’t stop retelling, I think to reinforce and justify the negatives I tend to apply to myself.

    FYI When I read the non-labeled version of your story, the picture of the person who wrote it that came to mind was of someone who has worked through their trauma, established healthy boundaries that need no justification. Nothing to fix. 🙂 The story of-course, as all such stories are, bitter sweet.

    #441626
    anita
    Participant

    Dear Peter:

    Thank you for the quick and genuine-feeling reply, it makes me smile because of the personal feel of it.

    Exhausted I am indeed, so I’ll get back to you Fri morning.

    Anita

    #441638
    anita
    Participant

    Dear Peter:

    At first, as I read your recent post yesterday, and again this morning, I didn’t hear you. Instead, I heard my mother saying about herself and me: “I was not the villain, and you were not the victim!”, invalidating reality and my emotions that fit the reality of what was. But I didn’t know at the time that I was hearing her. I thought I was hearing you invalidating reality and my emotions, and the same-old, same-old frustration and pain reoccurred, that chronic self-doubt, a painful mental condition.

    Next, yesterday, I remembered The Rule of Charity and figured I was probably jumping to conclusions here and that I will revisit this in the morning. This morning, I looked at your writing further and saw that you expressed empathy for me, that you didn’t invalidate me, and that you were reflecting on your own experience and how creating more neutral versions of your stories might help you let go of negative emotions. You were talking about yourself, not criticizing and invalidating me (a relief).

    Thank you, Peter, for your thoughtful and empathetic response. I appreciate your recognition of the emotional effort that went into my original journal entry.

    I understand what you mean about the “victim-villain” dynamic. For me, using labeling language was a crucial step in validating my experiences and asserting my boundaries at that time. It helped me articulate the intensity of the hurt and establish the necessary distance to protect myself.

    Over time, as I have healed and gained more perspective, I do find value in using more neutral language about what I refer to as normal life situations (not including the situations of my childhood with my mother). It allows for a broader interpretation and can help in letting go of the negative emotions tied to those stories.

    “In hindsight I’m wondering if I felt that I needed to feel the emotions and stay angry to justify the boundaries was creating. (I notice today, not always healthy boundaries)”-
    – you mean that you made some decisions in the heat of the moment, driven by anger and hurt, without considering the possibility of reconciliation, or the impact of the decisions on your life long-term (an example would be following a single argument with a partner, a person decides to end the relationship abruptly, without giving their partner a chance to explain or resolve the issue)?

    * I created lots and lots of reactive, inflexible boundaries with people (ending contact with people abruptly and forevermore), finding myself alone and lonely. While those decisions provided me with immediate relief and a sense of control, they prevented personal growth, reconciliation, and coming across healthy ways of managing emotions and having a long-term relationship.

    “Now that time has passed, do you feel you need the labeling experience to maintain and or justify the boundaries you created?”- in regard to normal situations (I explained “normal situations” above), I do find it very helpful to quiet down the labels, to challenge negative labels, to consider different angles to the story. In other words, to apply The Rule of Charity that you introduced to me.

    Thank you for sharing your perspective and for your kind words about my journey. I hope to continue our conversation, it’s amazingly helpful to me. I hope it is helpful to you too.

    anita

    #441642
    Peter
    Participant

    Hi Anita

    Thanks so much for taking a second reading. I would never intentionally invalidate your experience. Sadly I can be clumsy with my words.

    I am finding the dialog helpful.

    Me: “In hindsight I’m wondering if I felt that I needed to feel the emotions and stay angry to justify the boundaries I was creating. (I notice today, not always healthy boundaries)”

    You “you mean that you made some decisions in the heat of the moment, driven by anger and hurt, without considering the possibility of reconciliation, or the impact of the decisions on your life long-term”

    Not quite, though I’ve made plenty of heat of the moment decisions based on anger and hurt.
    What I was questioning was, now that years have passed, if I was still doing that. If I was retelling a old story’s then using that negative energy that would arise to maintain current boundaries. Realizing that boundaries that need the energy of anger and hurt to maintain might not be healthy boundaries. That said, in the heat of the moment that may be part of the process in developing boundaries but that process is exhausting and I want to do better.

    Sadly my journal clearly shows a tendency to hold on to the stories (with the labels) then using the anger and hurt that the labels created to maintain boundaries… Seeing that I also have to question whether at some level, I feel a need to justify my boundaries, which I don’t want to do that any more. The act of justification also being exhausting along with suggesting I’m not being honest with myself in some way.

    When reading your non-labeled version of your story. That’s I saw a possibility, a space, to let go, to get to a place were I needing the story. In the non-labeled version I saw a person who did the work and created healthy boundaries that didn’t require any further explanation, exploration, justification, labels or re-telling. Bitter, as the hurt is and was real but sweet because, having emerged out the other side, better connected to the true self. The hurt and the labels no longer having the the hold they had.

    That’s the hope on going through the non labeling exercise though as in all things, timing matters. I think I came across my old journal as now I’m ready.

    Hope that made more sense.

    Have a Good weekend. FYI I stay away from computers on weekends

    #441643
    Peter
    Participant

    re writing a part

    When reading your non-labeled version of your story. That’s I saw, a possibility, a space, to let go, to get to a place were their was no further need to tell the story.
    In the non-labeled version I saw a person who did the work and created healthy boundaries that didn’t require any further explanation, exploration, justification, labels or re-telling. Bitter, as the hurt is and was real but sweet because, having emerged out the other side, better connected to the true self. The hurt and the labels no longer having the the hold they had.

    #441644
    anita
    Participant

    Dear Peter:

    You re-wrote beautifully, I am amazed how well you wrote, a moment of perfection, I say! I will read all and reply further Sat morning

    Anita

    #441651
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Thank you for the example of a non-labelling journal entry Anita!

    I guess it just means taking the emotional intensity away? To me, as an ex-language teacher all of language is labelling. Every single word has unique definitions.

    I read something about Buddha nature and it suggested that Buddha nature was to approach things with an open mind, curious, with compassion and non-judgmental. It seems to me that this is suited to a ‘non-labelling’ writing style.

    Love, peace and best wishes to all! ❤️🙏

    #441652
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Hi Peter

    Reporting back after trying it. I found this ‘non labelling’ style of writing helpful! It helped me to make a decision regarding what to do with my husband. Thank you for sharing! It was a great idea!

    Love, peace and forgiveness! ❤️🙏

    #441653
    anita
    Participant

    * You are welcome, Helcat!

    Dear Peter: I just read your FYI note about staying away from the computer on weekends- thank you for letting me know. I will reply further either tomorrow or on Monday. I hope that you are having a good weekend!

    anita

    #441663
    anita
    Participant

    Dear Peter:

    Thank you for your insightful and reflective message. I understand that you didn’t mean to invalidate my experience (and you didn’t), and I’m glad we’re finding the dialogue helpful.

    Your reflection on my non-labeled version and the possibility of letting go of the need to retell the story is something I didn’t think about before you introduced the concept to me.

    You wrote: “What I was questioning was, now that years have passed, if… I was retelling a old story’s then using that negative energy that would arise to maintain current boundaries. Realizing that boundaries that need the energy of anger and hurt to maintain might not be healthy boundaries”-

    – What I understand (for the first time in my life!) is that there is a difference between healthy boundaries and unhealthy boundaries. Unhealthy boundaries are those that are based on a negative foundation, which is the ongoing, long-term emotional experience of hurt and anger. It is exhausting, and it keeps the person hurt and angry way after boundaries have been established, while the person is no longer in the situation where he/ she is disrespected or abused.

    It means a life filled with hurt and anger that no longer serve to establish boundaries because such have already been established.

    Healthy boundaries are based on positive foundations such as self-respect, personal value, and emotional well-being, rather than negative emotions.

    So, what a person with healthy boundaries experiences on a long-term basis (after boundaries have been established and while they are maintained) is not hurt and anger, but self-respect and peace of mind.

    Boundaries grounded in anger and hurt are emotionally exhausting to maintain. Healthy boundaries, on the other hand, are without constant emotional strain.

    The idea is not to… not set boundaries, but to set boundaries that are not rooted in ongoing, long-term anger and hurt.

    Part of the journey involves letting go of the old stories and the negative emotions (hurt and anger) they evoke. This doesn’t mean forgetting the past but rather processing it in ways that promotes personal growth.

    Ongoing, long-term, chronic hurt and anger hinder personal growth, while ongoing self-respect, self-esteem and peace of mind promote personal growth.

    So, as I retell my story with the hurt and anger, with labels that maintain the hurt and anger, I hinder my personal growth.

    Healthy boundaries don’t require ongoing justification by retelling the stories with hurt and anger. The stories stand on their own merit and can be retold without the labels that maintain hurt and anger.

    “Sadly, my journal clearly shows a tendency to hold on to the stories (with the labels) then using the anger and hurt that the labels created to maintain boundaries”- now I understand. This has been what I did my whole adult life… and I didn’t know it until this very morning. Now I know because of you, Peter.

    “In the non-labeled version, I saw a person who did the work and created healthy boundaries that didn’t require any further explanation, exploration, justification, labels or re-telling. Bitter, as the hurt is and was real but sweet because, having emerged out the other side, better connected to the true self”-

    – My true self is one that no longer lives under the dark cloud of hurt and anger, but one who sees the light come through and feel its warmth.

    I am… I don’t have words to describe this newness of this in my mind and heart. It will take time to take it in further. Thank you is not saying enough. I hope you are not reading this before the weekend ends and I hope it’s a good weekend for you.

    anita

    #441681
    Peter
    Participant

    Hi HelCat

    Thanks for the update. I also find the practice of writing the story with the emotional measuring labels and then re-writing with the non-labels as away to get clarification especially before I’m going to then engage in conversation.

    I guess it just means taking the emotional intensity away? To me, as an ex-language teacher all of language is labelling. Every single word has unique definitions.

    I read something about Buddha nature and it suggested that Buddha nature was to approach things with an open mind, curious, with compassion and non-judgmental. It seems to me that this is suited to a ‘non-labelling’ writing style.

    I’m about to go full Type 5 so apologies 🙂

    Your right all words are labels, symbols that point to, construct, describe…
    I think the biggest error we make in life is to mistake the ‘map for the territory’ the words and language for the that which it can only point to.

    I feel this is why the labeling of a emotion often creates a experience of the emotion. For example we experiencing dis-ease, label it as sadness and we become sad, and more often then not get get stuck in the experience sadness. Then their is a tendency to label that experience as bad and anyone associated with the event becomes bad and we get our victim villein stories. A self feeding cycle of dis-ease.

    Language is also dependent on duality as is ego consciousness. When we speak, when we measure, when we label we create duality, consciousness, the constructs we live by. Buddha nature transcends duality and constructs…. returning to stillness, silence , Love, non-duality – the Eternal Now, the source from which the experience arose. By Non-labeling we create the space to return to the source.

    As a exercise, re-writing old stories without the emotional labels and measurements such as bad and good, I feel it creates a space to un-stick ourselves. This does not mean blocking out the emotions or experience but paradoxically the space to honestly feel the experience. After I re-wrote some of my old stories I would sit with them and let my self feel. I found my self becoming still and silent… often I would noticed a heaviness somewhere. I’ve read that we often hold on to our experiences within our bodies. For now I’m just noticing.

    #441682
    Peter
    Participant

    Hi Anita. Yes!

    Thank you so much for sharing. Your ability to mirror back what you ‘heard’ is very helpful. I wasn’t always sure what I was trying to say and when I read your response I felt… YES

      My true self is one that no longer lives under the dark cloud of hurt and anger, but one who sees the light come through and feel its warmth.

    Yes

    To return to the beginning – in the words of Hokusai – ‘Life living through You’ – Flow – Transparent to the Transcendent

    #441684
    anita
    Participant

    Dear Peter:

    Thank you for your heartfelt response. I’m glad to hear that my reflections resonated with you and helped clarify what you were trying to express. It’s truly a very meaningful dialogue for me, and I appreciate your insights and willingness to share these here.

    Your reference to Hokusai’s words, “Life living through You,” and the concept of flow—being transparent to the transcendent—is striking a chord with me this morning:

    “– Flow – Transparent to the Transcendent”- in this context, being “transparent” means being open and unobstructed. It suggests that ego, biases, and preconceptions (based on the past) are obstructing the experience of the present moment/ the Eternal Now.

    Being transparent to the transcendent means that when I am fully engaged and immersed in the present moment (flow), I am open to and can experience higher states of consciousness or profound insights (transcendence).

    “Buddha nature transcends duality and constructs… returning to stillness, silence, Love, non-duality – the Eternal Now, the source from which the experience arose”- being fully aware of the present moment, without obstructions/ distraction from past or future, promotes a sense of unity and interconnectedness with all things and a sense of inner peace, calm, and stillness.

    Every present moment is seen as fully sufficient in itself, containing all the richness and depth of experience without needing to be tied to past or future moments.

    Each moment holds infinite potential because it is not limited by time. It is experienced as a timeless essence.

    Personally, I have been heavily obstructed by my past, living under a very dark cloud of past hurts, sadness and anger, jealousy and envy, a deep sense of injustice.

    There is no way to find light under a dark cloud (beyond a moment here, a moment there, moments far in between). Got to transcend my past, to rise above it. To experience the Eternal Now.

    This will need to be absorbed further, to be made a way of life in practical terms, my new way of life. You, Peter, presented this to me in a way that made it possible for me to perceive for the first time in my life. It is amazing to me!

    anita

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