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February 19, 2025 at 8:24 am #442979
anita
ParticipantDear Alessa and Jana:
You’re both very welcome, and thank you for being here with me. You are making remarkable progress on your personal journeys, and it’s inspiring and helping me to make progress on my own journey.
One of my core beliefs, similar to yours, Alessa, was “I am not a good person”. And another, a consequent of the first: “I don’t deserve a good life” (because I am not a good person).
As is common for people with the core belief of not being good enough, I too engaged in self-criticism, harshly judging myself for perceived flaws, mistakes, and failures. This constant self-criticism eroded my self-esteem and reinforced the core beliefs I mentioned.
Negative self-talk, a common manifestation of the belief “I am not good enough.”, becomes a habit that is difficult to break.
Many people cope with these core beliefs and the accompanying negative self-talk by engaging in behaviors such as substance abuse, self-harm, disordered eating (like binge eating), and avoidance- avoiding situations, activities, or people that might trigger feelings of inadequacy, often leading to social isolation and missed opportunities for growth and connection.
Self-compassion involves treating oneself with kindness, understanding, and acceptance, especially during times of struggle or perceived failure. Practicing self-compassion can help break the cycle of self-abuse by challenging negative self-beliefs and promoting a positive and nurturing self-view.
It helps to recognize that feelings of inadequacy are a common human experience. Everyone struggles with self-doubt at times. Understanding this can help foster a sense of connection and reduce feelings of isolation.
Jana, you asked: “Do you think that all people experience some emotional or mental difficulties?”- my answer: absolutely. Human beings are complex and emotional creatures, and life’s difficulties and hardship affect our mental well-being in various ways. This can include stress, anxiety, sadness, grief, or even more severe mental health conditions. The key is recognizing that these reactions to hardship are a natural part of life, seeking support when needed, and treating ourselves and others with compassion.
“It is interesting that you both find/found rules, plans, goals helpful to stay focused. I am very nervous when I have to follow strict plans and goals … I like to “flow” and to be flexible in situations. Rules and plans actually make me nervous.”-
– Writing my “Rules 4 Life” helped me feel focused and in control, which lessened my anxiety. This method provided a sense of order and predictability, which was comforting (until a rule was broken). In contrast, you find that strict plans and goals make you nervous. Instead of feeling comforted by structure, you prefer to “flow” and be flexible in situations.
While rules help me stay focused, they have the opposite effect on you, making you anxious instead. I believe this difference stems from our distinct experiences growing up in different environments— home versus school. For me, home represented chaos, while school represented order. At home, I was very anxious because my mother was unpredictable, like a bomb that could explode at any moment. School, on the other hand, provided comfort because it was predictable. I loved the strict teachers who enforced rigid rules and maintained strict supervision, ensuring that other children couldn’t abuse me. This predictability was something I could rely on, and it was wonderful.
In contrast, from what I remember you sharing, your home life was more relaxed in that your parents were not explosive like my mother, and they allowed you to spend a lot of time outdoors without supervision. The issue for you arose at school and in those hobby clubs you mentioned, where you were mistreated and felt trapped. While I felt trapped with my mother (due to the lack of rules and predictability) and found temporary shelter at school (with its rules and predictability), you felt trapped at school, confined by its rules and predictability, and found refuge outdoors, free from rules and predictability, enjoying the freedom to go outside and relax.
Fast forward to now, I still find comfort in rules and predictability and feel distressed by unpredictability, whereas you still feel distressed by rules and predictability and find comfort in flexibility and spontaneity.
What do you think of my understanding, Jana?
anita
February 20, 2025 at 4:09 am #442994Alessa
ParticipantI am finding it surprisingly hard to talk about self-compassion. It involves digging through things that have helped me in the past and naturally reminds me of feelings and memories from the past.
Things were really hard for me back then. It hurts to think about. And my brain does not want to let go because it hurts.
I have PTSD and the mechanism for PTSD is based on avoiding the pain. Intrusive thoughts happen because I don’t want to feel the pain and avoid it.
*trigger warning*
I went through a lot of severe abuse with my biological mother and I was not accepted by my adopted family. And I was raped by a close friend. Initially, I coped by believing that my mother was the only bad person in the world. But after a person I trusted harming me, I was terrified of everyone and felt nothing was safe for me. I hid and numbed the pain with prescription medication while waiting to see a therapist to deal with the trauma. The pain was unbearable. I hated myself for not being able to cope or protect myself.
The level of trauma was what made it difficult for me to cope, as well as the lack of healthy people in my life.
It wasn’t my fault. Just the result of a genetic lottery and being born to someone incapable of being a parent.
Sometimes good people go through horrible things. I’m lucky in that I got help to get through the pain and things are a lot better for me now.
I don’t hate myself anymore. I’m proud of myself for doing my best to crawl out of that dark hole.
Sometimes the past hurts. Sometimes life has it’s ups and downs. I’m trying to be gentle with myself. I even love myself, but sometimes I just wish that the past didn’t hurt.
February 20, 2025 at 4:44 am #442995Jana 🪷
ParticipantHello Alessa and Anita,
yes, I agree that my childhood could shape my need for flexibility. But at the same time, I believe that we are not tabula rasa and our genes also determine what our personality will be like. I know that I was happy in independent and flexibile environments even before being bullied. The same applies to my introversion.
I believe that this is also a very important part of my internal validation – to accept that this is me. I am not only a result of some external – mostly negatively perceived – “influence”/”force” such as the then education system and my parents. I find my introversion, sensitivity and need for freedom as a part of my true self. 😊 And it is a part of self-compassion, as well.
In my opinion sticking to rules, plans and goals can bring more of dissapointment in our personal lives. If we cannot follow the rules, achieve the goals, we might feel as a failure. And it is then more stressful than beneficial. Of course, it depends on context. I do like following the eightfold noble path because I can see it makes sense for my life. I agree with these rules because they lead to becoming a decent and kind person. I don’t see any troubles here. However, I don’t punish myself when I cannot follow the rules. I am a human being with flaws… In this context, what is important for me is the effort.
Being flexible brings me more feeling of being free and independent. “Okay, this didn’t work. I can find another way, another solution.” There is no evaluation, measerument of success or failure. I feel happier because I have more possibilities and freedom in choice, I guess. I’m a person who prefers to react to a situation rather than plan it. And when the plan is wrong… just imagine… so much energy, effort and time invested in following a plan, while I might have missed something great because I didn’t notice it at all because of blindly following the plan. It is again about the context. 🙂
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February 20, 2025 at 4:59 am #442996Jana 🪷
ParticipantI also wanted to share my associations with the words weakness/strength and success/failure.
My immediate association with the word strength is the word “man”. I think that it is the need for a man protector. It feels good to be protected by a man in this harsh world. It can be, of course, negative, too. When men turn to violence. So, without thinking much, I imagine police, soldiers, knights, … images of protectors.
My immediate association with the word weakness is (unfortunately) tenderness. It is why I probably feel so weak in this world.
And I connect the words success and failure more with personal, spiritual development… for me, being a decent, kind and tender person is in the end success… but it is terribly hard in this world… these are my values, but as you can see I feel in danger being kind and tender (that’s why the need for protectors) because I know that many people can take advantage of me…
It is actually very interesting to think about it and get to know a bit more about me again. Thank you!
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February 20, 2025 at 5:06 am #442997Jana 🪷
ParticipantAlessa, I didn’t notice your last post at 4:09. I’ll come back tomorrow to answer to you.
Meanwhile Anita (and others) can share some experiences, thoughts and support. 🌼
Looking forward to you!❤️
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February 20, 2025 at 7:57 am #443006anita
ParticipantDear Alessa:
I’m truly sorry about the hardships you have faced, and I’m glad to hear that things are a lot better for you now. It’s important to be gentle with yourself, and your journey towards self-compassion is commendable.
Dear Jana:
I understand your perspective on rules, plans, and goals, and I agree that both our upbringing and genetics play a significant role in shaping who we are.
I can see why you associate strength with protection, especially in a harsh and unpredictable world. It’s unfortunate when tenderness, such a beautiful and valuable quality, is exploited by others.
I admire how you connect success and failure to personal and spiritual development. Striving to be a decent, kind, and tender person is indeed a noble goal, and it’s clear that these values are deeply important to you. It’s wonderful to read how you’ve embraced your true self and found internal validation.
anita
February 21, 2025 at 2:59 pm #443057Alessa
ParticipantHi Anita and Jana
Thank you both for the kind thoughts! ❤️ I’m feeling better today.
I’m glad that you found reflecting on the themes helpful! I love the self-acceptance Jana. Like you, I choose to work with my nature. I think it’s great that you feel a lot of freedom in reacting in the moment and maximising your possibilities. Whatever helps you is truly the best way for you. ❤️
I love what Anita said on Jana’s other thread. A lot of great insights on this one too! I had never really thought of surpressing pain as suppressing my inner child. I have been rather detached from it viewing these things as memories and pain from the past. It was helpful to reframe it and address the inner child. Congratulations on the breakthrough in self-compassion Anita. I think that you’re a great person! ❤️
I don’t know if either of you have ever seen Pirates of the Caribbean? I think of these things more as guidelines than actual rules. 😉
I understand the concerns. For me, it is important to set achievable goals as opposed to unachievable ones. I don’t really tend to plan too far ahead. It just helps me to actively sit down, think about and plan exactly how I’m going to achieve something.
You see, in stressful situations I struggle. I have difficulty problem solving, make a lot of mistakes and forget things when I’m nervous. Planning, memorising and rehearsing just creates the best outcomes for me. I know if I have practiced it successfully I can do it again in the moment.
I don’t really judge myself harshly when I don’t succeed. Doing my best is enough and making mistakes is expected and accepted. I just review to see what I can learn and try again.
February 21, 2025 at 3:01 pm #443058Alessa
ParticipantI think what I have trouble with is letting go. Big changes are hard for me. It takes time for me to process and adapt. I do understand this about myself though.
Another thing I thought of in regards to strength was vulnerability. It is hard to be vulnerable. It does feel dangerous and takes courage. The way that I see it, doing the most difficult things takes strength.
I noticed that my definition of weakness was related to how I viewed myself in the past.
I was doing my best to just hang in there and stay alive, despite wishing otherwise. I didn’t want to hurt my sister by dying. I didn’t know how to get through the pain alone. I needed professional help. I did the best I could. And when I got the help I put my all into it. I can’t blame myself for that. I feel like these things are impossible to deal with alone.
I think that truly giving up would have been to kill myself. It might have been a horrible time, but I fought hard, managed to get through it and create a good life for myself. I have myself to thank for that. As well as the people who helped me. Life is a journey and values are an important part of life.
I agree that self-compassion needs to be felt. Love for others helps me to extend it to myself.
February 21, 2025 at 3:02 pm #443059Alessa
Participantthink that there are moments in life where things click. Has anyone else felt moments like this?
For ages I struggled with a feeling of not having love for myself. I worked on forgiveness, boundaries and negative self-talk. Then I realized one day that I had achieved these things and had love for myself, but I struggled to connect to it and feel it.
Another time things clicked was when I realized that it was random chance who I was born to and no matter who was born to her she would have had the same difficulties raising. That is when I realized that I was not to blame.
Another time it clicked was when I nurtured unconditional loving relationships with people who accepted me as I am. I realized that perhaps if they loved me, I was actually worthy of it and that it doesn’t matter who that love comes from.
I already mentioned the birth of my son. The latest click. Being just as worthy as he is. Every child, every adult, every animal being worthy of the same love for just being.
Seeing a child and not knowing how anyone could treat them badly.Reflecting on the core belief again. My biological mother would assault us using common child behaviours as an excuse. Every night I would reflect on the day and identify the mistakes and plan how to do things perfectly. Hoping that if I got things right, I wouldn’t “cause” her to get angry and beat us.
I believe that is the root of the not good enough belief. But as my therapist said, the reason she did these things is not because of us. According to my biological mother’s own words, it was a result of her own trauma. She was just doing what her parents did.I find it interesting that we all have different experiences of school. It was a mix for me. A couple of good teachers, many indifferent, only one bad teacher. I was good at my school work and behaved well, so I was largely overlooked and never punished.
I experienced bullying, but knew how to deal with bullies, so it wasn’t too bad. I knew how to find people that I would get on with and had at least one friend at each school, sometimes more. It was hard for me moving schools and leaving friends behind without even being able to say goodbye. I stopped bothering with many friends. I’m a caring person. It is hard for me to lose people. I still remember their names, even from elementary school. The less people, the less to lose and I don’t need many people in my life to be happy.
February 21, 2025 at 3:14 pm #443019Jana 🪷
ParticipantAlessa, I do understand. I find it especially hard to get in touch with my inner child. It still brings a lot of sorrow. I believe that we need to go through this stage to be free in the end. ☀️ 😊 I am trying to think about these sad moments in my life in this way. It brings me some comfort and contentment. Sad moments, pain, sorrow are neccessary too. We cannot move on without them. So, I no longer try to avoid painful memories but to process them with understanding and compassion. And step by step the sad moments are weaker and weaker…
I found this interesting article by Hanh: Healing the Child Within
Anita, thank you a lot. Have you ever thought about the ideas of strength, weakness, success and failure?
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