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  • #105633
    molora
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    Hi everyone. I am a long time follower of the site but a first time poster. I need help changing a certain behaviour I have. I’ll have a conversation with someone or a group of people, I think nothing of it. Sometime later I’ll start to think about the conversation in my head. It could minutes after the conversation ended or hours later. I’ll start to think ‘Why did I say that’, ‘I talked only about myself’, ‘I didn’t ask them questions about their lives’, ‘that comment I made was a bit blunt and rude’, ‘you brushed past their opinions’, or it could be ‘you barely spoke throughout that whole conversation’, ‘what value do you bring to the team/group if you don’t say a word’’ I’ll start thinking about what they think of me, ‘they probably thought I am an idiot/self centred/ uninterested/ weird’ etc. I could be in a normal mood after the conversation but as soon as I have some quiet time and time to think I start to think of everything wrong I said/didn’t say/did.
    For example, every day I would go out with a group of work people. When I first joined the company they were very kind and made sure I was included in the invites to lunch/coffee breaks etc. This group of people were all good friends working on the same project doing (relatively) the same jobs. I worked on a different project but they still made sure I was included. I, however, stayed mostly quiet at these breaks as I didn’t feel that I could contribute to the conversations about their work, they talked a lot about sport which I have no interest in. When common interests came up I would chip in or when I was asked about my work I would talk about it briefly. After every break I would think, ‘I could have talked more’, ‘I could have asked more questions’, ‘they probably think why do we keep inviting her if she never speaks’, ‘why am I so awkward’, ‘why can’t I socialise’. I would also think ‘tomorrow I will do better’, ‘I will ask about this and that’. Eventually I got to know them more I did get better at the conversations with that group and felt comfortable with them but the questioning myself would remain, I would always find something in that conversation to be negative about. We’ve all moved projects and are off in different buildings across the city. Today I met up with a couple of them, after a few of months, and now the questioning myself has come back in full force. At the time I was comfortable chatting with them but I am now analysing everything I said and ripping myself to pieces. Their opinion of me matters to me which is probably why I over thinking the whole thing.
    When I’m with my close friends or family this doesn’t happen. I find it this happens mostly when I’m with new people I don’t know, someone I’m trying to leave a good impression on like a colleague/ manager, or someone who I like and would like to get to know more.
    In my new place of work I do this questioning myself after interactions but it’s because I’m new again and I’m trying to build relationships with the people so I’m trying to make a good impression.
    To be honest I am a bit taken back by how much I’ve reverted back to the questioning of everything I’ve said with the people from the previous place. I thought I was comfortable with them and at the time I did feel comfortable talking to them. I hate that I’ve reverted back to this, I feel like I need to try to leave a good impression again even though at this stage they already have their opinion of me. I’m finding it difficult to stop over-thinking and over-analysing things, I even start criticising myself about how harsh I’m being to myself – more over thinking.
    This nonsense that’s going on in my head is really bringing me down. We agreed that we will meet up again in the next couple of weeks and I know going to that I will be so aware of my criticisms of myself from today that I will probably go and say very little to ensure I don’t say something stupid.

    #105647
    Anonymous
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    Dear molora:

    I see a few things going on:

    1. Projections; most likely inaccurate projections. You wrote: “I’ll start thinking about what they think of me, ‘they probably thought I am an idiot/self centred/ uninterested/ weird’”- it is you who unfortunately thinks that you are an idiot, self centered, uninterested and weird. You projected those things into the other people, believing or suspecting they are thinking these things about you, but it is you who does.

    2. When we are not engaged in a particular task that requires our focus, our brains wonder with thoughts about the past and the future, for the purpose of learning from the past and improving the future, remembering a situation from the past, scanning for problems in the past performance and practicing better performance in the future.

    3. Each one of us has what Freud called Superego, also known as Inner Critic. This is the part that tells us to eat with our mouths closed, brush our teeth, wait in line etc. It is the part that makes us follow rules. In many of us, this part is abusive, harshly critical, like yours. And mine. It is torturing you really.

    There are ways to deal with an abusive inner critic. I am dealing with mine daily, paying attention to when it speaks and at this point I am able, these days anyway, to not engage in conversations with it, but kind of .. leave its presence and stop being there for its harsh input.

    The Superego or inner critic is the internalized real life harshly critical/ abusive parent or care taker during out childhood. Who do you think you internalized? Insight into this can be very helpful.

    anita

    #105659
    Marisa Blencoe
    Participant

    Dear Molora

    Gentleness with yourself, non-judgment and love are missing a bit I think in your analysis of this story. I agree with Anita that we all share a split mind; we have within us the ego mind and on the other end of the spectrum is our wise, internal, loving unified mind which we share with God or Source.

    Your ego mind is running away with you and not serving you in the slightest. Firstly, you are a precious child of God who is allowed to show up anywhere and just be as you are, whether that be talking, not talking or just being. It sounds as if you could do with connecting with yourself first and then just show up with whomever however you please. If they are going to be your friend, they will like you as you come. Just as you are.

    Self-judgment is just not serving you. In fact, no judgment serves anyone at all, ever. There you go. So now, whenever this internal voice starts at you. Just silence it and say that God/Source wills for your perfect happiness and never judges and never analyses and just allows all things to be exactly as they are in that moment.

    Just be as you feel like being. Sometimes that person is happy, sometimes quiet, sometimes sad. You have no one to try to get to like you except yourself. You only have to like yourself and the rest will come naturally because all genuine, wonderful people in the world love authenticity.

    I hope this helps. love

    Marisa

    #105661
    Maria_L
    Participant

    Hi molora,

    We all have been in your shoes, more or less, I am almost always like that when I try to meet good people and make good impression. Minhat and anita were right on place when talking about the (super) ego and how much trouble it can cause… I would like to point out two more things.

    1) Different emotions can be energetically connected to potential conditions and diseases. The bad ones lower our energy and we attract more negativism in different forms. Self-criticism, shame and guilt are unfortunately on the bottom of that ‘vibration chart’. It takes time for us to change, but trust me you have to find constructional ways to deflect this pattern of thinking toward more positive direction. You will notice if you continue with this, ‘blockages’ in different aspects in your life will appear… And for me it took years to realize that it was my way of thinking, my necessity to be perfect , and fear not to embarrass myself that crippled my life in so many ways.

    I am sure you are lovely person and whatever you’ve ever said to anybody was respectful and with good intentions. Do not wire your brain with constant self-criticism, guilt and shame. Perfect does not exist. And not everyone can like you even if you do your best. This is the reality, and you have to accept it. And if your brain is bit ‘hyperactive’ like mine and in constant need to go somewhere, than ‘feed it’ with something else, distract yourself. It’s funny, but at one time when I was prone to falling in self-distraction ways of thinking, I actually did Sudoku and crosswords whenever that started 🙂 You’d be surprised how you can’t focus on two demanding things at the same time 🙂

    2 ) And if you wanna seek a logic that will support the fact that you ‘cant be that bad’… 🙂 Let’s look the things from the other angle 🙂 Do you remember everything that has been said to you by every person (I am talking about the ‘small talk’ in social conversations). You can probably remember something till 3-4 weeks ago, and then it just fades away. Your mind can’t possibly keep track of every conversation from your past, unless it was really life changing or traumatic. So why bother so much about what you’ve said to someone ? Do you really think that that person will have a sleepless night because of your words? Other people will forget anyway, trust me. You have forgotten many! Mega-scandals on TV just go away, bad moments fade through time. Don’t sweat the small stuff 🙂 Enjoy life, love yourself, use that mental energy on something wonderful 🙂 Practice!! Do you wanna be puppet which moods and behavior will be dictated by other’s people opinions, or do you wanna be… free? 🙂

    #105673
    Lucy
    Participant

    Hi Molora,

    I just happened upon your post and thought, “It sounds just like me!” I too analyze past conversation and behaviors with new and old friends. I am just starting to learn to stop listening to the negative voice and redirect myself to speak positively to myself. So thank you for sharing and thank you to the people who have given some advice.

    I have taken a class for public speaking and during each speech I was video taped. It was horrible at first to watch myself. I was filled with anxiety as I loaded the DVD! But after the 3rd DVD, I realized that what I thought in my mind was always more critical than the reality. I had done quite well! It remained true throughout the class and made me question my perspective on myself. For me, it is true that I am my own worst critic, but I am actively trying to change because as Marliv mentioned, I want to be free.

    #106505
    molora
    Participant

    Thank you all for your considered responses. I really appreciate you taking the time out to read and contribute.

    Anita, you are right about the projections. I do in-fact think I am all of those things about myself and more. I might try something when I think those harsh things about myself and project them on to others. I will try to catch myself and say “You are projecting that onto them; you do not know what they are thinking”. You are also dead right about the wandering mind when not focused. These thoughts can come in the evening when I have nothing on, I’m alone at home and I haven’t particularly anything to do. They also come when I’m in bed and unable to sleep. I will try Marliv’s suggestion of Sudoku so I am focusing on something other than my unhelpful thoughts.
    The superego/inner critic is an interesting one. It would be a difficult task for me to try and separate myself from those thoughts. If it is the case that the inner critic relates back to an internalized real life critic, my gut instinct tells me it’s my family. My teenage years were tough, emotionally tough and I felt no support from them at all to help me through that fog. I’m working very hard to heal the relationship with my family now and I am getting there slowly. To think that the type of behaviour I outlined in my first post could be related back to that is interesting. Thank you for your insight.

    Marisa/Minhat, yes they are missing. “Just be as you feel like being. Sometimes that person is happy, sometimes quiet, sometimes sad” this line of yours has stayed with me for the past week. At some points throughout the week I was feeling truly sad and instead of what I usually do, I just accepted the fact I was sad. There was relief in this as I wasn’t putting pressure on myself. So thank you for that.

    Marliv, ‘at one time when I was prone to falling in self-distraction ways of thinking, I actually did Sudoku’ I bought a Sudoku book to try this out! I imagine this will come in handy when I’m alone in the house, as I mentioned above this is the most time when I start to over think. ‘Do you remember everything that has been said to you by every person’ you are absolutely right!! I defiantly do not! I can barely remember what my co-workers and I talked about yesterday. That’ll be something I will keep in mind. Thank you.

    Lucy, it’s so comforting to know that some else feel the same way I do. To know I am not alone in this means alot. Thanks so much for replying.

    #107396
    Brie
    Participant

    @molora Test this out: Try logging your thoughts. I use Evernote app to jot down date/time + a bit of info like what thought was / trigger / how I feel. Have you ever had a time you spoke about a problem with someone then suddenly it didn’t sound as bad as you first thought? This is same idea.

    Instead of distraction, you can also consider substitution. You can change your thought process from “why did I say that” to “what can I do next with this person?” by replacing it on paper and reviewing it. Also applies well with emotions.

    I’m not a fan of distraction because it doesn’t fix the problem. Substitution however can change the way you think because you choose to shift your focus on what matters most or what makes you happy. Eventually becomes your new default thinking.

    #107920
    Tara
    Participant

    Hi Molora, Yay Im not the only one who does this!! Haha relax, I think we are all a bit like this. I often think Oh I didnt ask them about this, or that. I should have said this or that but you know what- there are a million ways to reply to a question, so many questions you can ask, so many funny things to be said but you said exactly what needed to be said at that point of time in that conversation and in the amount of time you had together. There are so many factors that make up a situation / conversation so just trust yourself that you responded as was fit in that time. Oh how hind sight is a wonderful thing 🙂 It also sounds like your a little bit shy but just relax and it will all come together. You are lucky to be in such a social job !
    If you really think you should of asked them a question why not drop them an email or message and say hey so sorry I totally forgot to ask about….?
    Hope you feel better about this

    #107939
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Molora:

    This is strange: did I not reply to your latest post above, more than two weeks ago? I thought I did…

    How are you today? How are you doing with evaluating your projections for inaccuracy, with over analyzing?

    anita

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