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January 20, 2019 at 10:16 am #275771AnonymousGuest
Dear John:
“about what life brings next”- pick and choose from what it brings next. You don’t have to take everything that is brought to you. Evaluate what it is that is brought to you; don’t automatically receive it.
One more thing: you are probably going to feel longing to this woman just like before, or maybe more. Understanding things, the insights you mentioned, take a lot of time to sink in emotionally. It will take you reminding yourself what makes sense repeatedly, so to not give in to the same-old-same-old inclinations of the past.
anita
January 22, 2019 at 9:33 am #276137JohnParticipantThank you Anita
January 22, 2019 at 1:29 pm #276267AnonymousGuestYou are welcome, John. Post again anytime.
anita
January 27, 2019 at 4:18 am #277133JohnParticipantWhy it feels this break up hurts me more than my main one that lasted for over 10 years?
January 27, 2019 at 5:19 am #277137AnonymousGuestDear John:
The breakup with this woman hurts more because as you wrote, “I saw the whole world in her”. When you discovered that she was a dishonest woman, you still saw the whole world in her and you tried very hard to … fix her dishonesty, an impossible endeavor.
This woman manipulated you through guilt (“you are leaving me, my children”) while she was the one hurting the relationship and her children were not yours but hers.
When you talked to her about the married man she was still seeing/ sent naked selfies to, she turned the talk against you, blaming you for not loving her (“why you talk to me kindly like you really loved me”), saying the same thing in other occasions: “if you really loved me… when did your love disappeared”.
She minimized the wrongs she did and called you sick: “it was just a small thing and you blow it out of proportion- you must be sick”.
She called you were sick so to make you feel bad, to defeat you.
She tried to make you feel jealous: “she says she sometimes fancies a guy at the dinner table”.
She cried and begged and didn’t change her wrongdoings.
I think you were caught in a trap, loving her so much and being stuck in her dishonesty, not knowing what to do with it, trying to … make her honest. I think you were trapped there because you lived with another dishonest woman who manipulated you through guilt, who lied to you, tried to hurt you, even enjoyed hurting you, pretending to be dead and then smiling when she saw you panicked.
You were trapped as a child with this woman, loving her even though she was dishonest and you were trapped as the man that you are, loving another dishonest woman who hurt you. I think that this woman awakened the emotional desire you had as a child for your mother and this is why it hurts you more.
What do you think?
anita
January 27, 2019 at 8:09 am #277175JohnParticipantThats quite a lot. Seems I need to learn new standards throughout the whole field of choosing partners.
How do I do it???
Oh my God.
January 27, 2019 at 9:02 am #277183AnonymousGuestDear John:
You do it by learning who the woman is before getting too emotionally involved. Take the time needed to get to know her, pace yourself, don’t rush.
Ask yourself: who is this woman? Does she lie or tell the truth; when she says she’ll do something, does she keep her word? Does she take responsibility for her mistakes or does she blame me?
Is she seeing someone else while she is seeing me?
Has she been involved with a married man before, knowingly and for a long time?
Find out who she is. Keep yourself as objective as possible while you learn who she is. Only if and when you find out, over time, that the woman is honest, responsible, trustworthy, then allow yourself to move closer toward her.
anita
January 27, 2019 at 10:54 am #277219JohnParticipantThis is what I did last time. I spoke with her for over a year before I met her. Fact is once I met her wings grew within few months.
January 27, 2019 at 2:32 pm #277265AnonymousGuestDear John:
You met her in July 2017. In September 2017 she told you that she had a friend with benefits, a married guy with whom she had “3 years of affair with her before she met me”.
In your recent post you wrote that you spoke to her for over a year before meeting her, I don’t remember this at the moment therefore I ask: what kind of communication did you have with her before you met her, approximately 2016-July 2017?
* I will be back to the computer in about fifteen hours.
anita
January 27, 2019 at 2:35 pm #277267JohnParticipantFor a year I spoke with her through dating app, then mainly over texts as she wasn’t comfortable talking on the phone about her private life (now I find it strange, one year of conversation only through texts, I rang her maybe once but that would be it, she was saying she doesn’t really know me so she is shy)
January 27, 2019 at 2:43 pm #277269MarkParticipantJohn,
As you have found out that you cannot really know someone until you spend in-person time with them. When I was online dating, my preference is to first see if I can have a short phone conversation with the woman then set up a face-to-face. If she does not want to do that until she “really gets to know me” then I move on. That tells me that she is in too much fear and not really ready to date (me at least). I did not have the patience to chat/text/email for to me, you are ready to date or not. Dating is the in-person experience of getting to know each other.
Mark
January 28, 2019 at 8:04 am #277341AnonymousGuestDear John:
You wrote: “I spoke with her for over a year before I met her… For a year I spoke with her through dating app, then mainly over texts… one year of conversation only through texts”-
well, what did you learn about her during that year, before you met her?
anita
January 29, 2019 at 10:11 pm #277689JohnParticipantI appreciated her for her honesty, emotional sensitiveness, openness, sense of humour, intelligence. I knew she was at the stage when she was digesting grief using other mens company to boost her self confidence, she wasnt hiding that much. After I met her I git to know that she had her “alpha female” attitude to project superiority over men. She flirted a lot and made men chase but she only chose those she fancied. Funny part was that wasnt able to chase men who didnt find her attractive, only played with those who magnetised towards her.
January 30, 2019 at 4:37 am #277713AnonymousGuestDear John:
You wrote: “I appreciated her for her honesty”-
Considering all your experience with her, before you met her and after you met her, following our communication here on your thread, do you now believe that she is an honest woman and has been honest with you?
I wonder what honesty means to you, your own and someone else’s?
anita
January 30, 2019 at 4:42 am #277715JohnParticipantYep, definition of honesty similarly to any other adjective is quite liquid depending on individual.
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