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  • #53887
    CM
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    Sorry for the length, but it is a story that has played out for 16 years and I need some resolution.
    When I was 20 years old I met a woman who was 30. She had moved back to the US after being in Hawaii for 5 years. I owned a business and she began working and living with me. We had a incredible relationship and “clicked” on levels that now at 37 see are rare to come by. During the 1.5 years she cheated on me numerous times with a extremely wealthy man who paid for her breast augmentation and also her school for massage therapy. It crushed me but I was in love and thought it would pass. I began to want to marry her, I now know I thought that would stop the cheating. After she received her license she began massaging another wealthy older man who of course she began sleeping with and ultimately left me for.
    The time after she left was a very dark period. I lost my business because I would not leave my house. I began the journey of using women and throwing them away in a very hurtful way. It put me on a path of destruction and changed my values as a young man.
    I got married to a girl years later. One night we were at a bar and I see my ex’s brother in law, I told him I was still in love with her while my wife sat and listened. Soon after I left the US for 9 years working overseas and that’s when my behavior and attitudes toward women really took a turn. Living in Dubai and South East Asia women were nothing more than something to use and throw money at. I loved my lifestyle, but deep down hated what I had become. I never forgot about her and the betrayal, the horrible things she said and did to me.
    After returning home and getting my mind right I finally decided to call her. I told her that I was still in love with her and had always loved her. She had just recently finally left the man she left me for, tired of being treated as a possession and mentally beaten down. I helped her get back on her feet and we are now living together again. I rescued her then and have once again done the same.
    I am madly in love with this woman. She completes me in ways no other ever has been able to and our relationship is always great.
    The problem is I am constantly back there, back when this was done to me. She has apologized and said it was the worst mistake of her life and acknowledges what a horrible person she was. How do I let this go? How can I be happy? I feel as though I wasn’t good enough for her then, so why am I all of a sudden good enough for her now, because she is 47 and can’t get away with the past behavior? I am so confused and can’t take the sleepless nights and constant battle inside. She treats me better than anyone ever has, if we didn’t have a past together I would be ecstatic to have met her now in my life.
    I would really appreciate it if someone would take the time to help me sort this out and get my thoughts in line. Thanks…

    #53889
    Fuzzy
    Participant

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=D9zi2BrML5A This meditation helped me get release from the past. It is hard to leave the past in the past. Good luck in your future.

    #53905
    Luna
    Participant

    Hi there.
    What a terrible past.. Im so sorry to hear, it makes me hurt for you.
    i don’t want to put in my opinion what you should do or how you should do, but this question i know, you won’t even know how to answer. WHY ARE YOU BACK WITH HER MAN?? she treated you so bad…
    i don’t know how you treat her, or how she treats you… She is nothing but an old lady now and realised she can’t find anyone better than you.
    You are not even happy…
    You feel betrayed, not once… but many times. I understand the fact that you love her so much, no one ever made you feel this way. But after her, did you ever open up to any other girls? Did you ever once let your past go and let a right person help you through or you only treat them wrong because you were hurt of your past. I hope the way i talk don’t offend you, but you man.. you deserve so much better.
    Love is blind, and when you put in so much effort… done everything perfectly right, you have a business, a boy friend material you were to her, yet she still cheated on you.
    That’s her problemmm… its not yours.
    You know the reason why you always love and still love her, you already said it.
    It is because, you don’t understand how she could do that to you? You pretty much kneel on your knee wanting her love and to be faithful and she still did what she did. You only lingering because you are so confuse. It hurts you so much because you know you did so much for her, and you did’t achieve what you want. Because you were fighting for something that never love you like you did to her. You keep coming back to prove yourself that you can save this love, because you love her so so much. And it killed you because you did not achieve it. You feel like you failed for something you longing for.
    You are a business man, i assume…. business man enjoy the chase and challenge, she is a challenge to you, and also a chase. And even til now she is.
    But thats a point, another point is.. she’s not just someone, she’s someone who made you feel like any other girls could. But you never gave any other girls a chance… you are so hurt, you are so damaged and your heart is numb to the point where you destroyed your own moral..
    ts a curse to meet a woman when you have something in your hand, it is more guarantee when you meet someone and have nothing..
    She comes to you, when you’re rich, and left you for a richer man, and then one after another and you once rescue her again.
    I can admire your love for her…
    But it is so important to have some self respect to leave, for her to leave you and you would still come back to her every single times… Female gets bored of that, she takes you for granted…

    And you decided to be with this lady. Please take meditation classes, do some yoga and believe in forgiveness.. The only way you can go through this is to forgive her, if she treats you good now. Just appreciate every little things that she is doing for you for what she have never done for you before. You finally get what you want from her and be happy with that. If you are with her, you have to let go of the past or you will forever be unhappy and hating your life. Love yourself and show her that only you can provide her what she wants and need. Think for her, for her sins and action, she did what she did because she did not know any better, thats why she did what she did to you ok? If you can forgive her, everything will be fine.
    Im so sorry to hear. I hope, maybe you realise something.. and maybe can use my advice and sorry about all my opinion. But you do need to know all that to forgive her. She must have a past to made her become that way, no one ever grow up to hurt anyone. We were born to love not to hate.

    • This reply was modified 10 years ago by Luna.
    #53937
    CM
    Participant

    Luna,

    Thank you for your response. I greatly appreciate your honesty and the acknowledgement that comes with it. Everything you said was correct in the way that I feel and the resentments that come along with it. In my heart I know I would be doing myself a disservice if I did not at least give it a year. I can only imagine what a wonderful and fulfilling journey you will have given the maturity and understanding you show for someone so young. Keep up the art and self discovery and I wish you all the best. Thank you again…

    #53963
    sunseeker26
    Participant

    Hi Czm. You know deep down inside what is and is not right for you. We all have a gut instinct, sometimes it’s responses are ones which we do not like or may involve great pain but it doesn’t make the truth of it go away. But from your post I get the feeling you believe you deserve more than where you are right now. Your time and love precious share it with someone who will appreciate it. She maybe a changed woman, but I have found once trust like that has been broken it tends to always leave a scar behind.

    Hope you find clarity on your situation, more importantly hope you find happiness.

    Love and peace xx Aysha

    #53965
    Luna
    Participant

    I hope love will heal you, love yourself <3 Goodluck!

    #53970
    Al
    Participant

    CM,

    I am sorry for all of the suffering you both have encountered.

    We must, at all times, remain compassionate and forgiving towards each other for none of us are perfect and therefore cannot reason what Right and Wrong are unless we have the proper influences. The important things, however, are not the mistakes we make but whether or not we have learned from them. Also, it is to be understood that mistakes HAVE to be made to teach us our lessons. As someone once quoted ‘A life lived without mistakes is a life not lived at all.’ For example, if you had never touched a hot stove, how would you ever had known that it was hot and that you should not touch it? If you had never fallen and scraped your knee, how would you ever have known how to walk/run with care? If you had never said anything hurtful, how would you ever know that it wasn’t unless the person who received your words showed pain?

    For the both of you, and perhaps especially her, the experiences she had were meant to happen for now she has come to learn what love and care really are and also to fully embrace them. As for you, do your best to embrace an appreciative attitude for her realization of her behavior and change to become a better individual. It is at these times that we must be most happy for one another for having overcome our faults. Also, it is the attitude you must have if you truly care for her for we must want the best for those we love, don’t you think so?

    I hope this helps,

    Al

    #53997
    Kelly
    Participant

    To expand on what Al has said, in the words of Mark Twain:

    “We should be careful to get out of an experience only the wisdom that is in it — and stop there — lest we be like the cat that sits down on a hot stove-lid. She will never sit down on a hot stove-lid again, and that is well; but also she will never sit down on a cold one any more.”

    #54111
    CM
    Participant

    Thank you all for the advice, I took it to heart and have really been listening to myself and finding some of the answers I am looking for. Kelly and Al..I know there are so many lessons in life and sadly, learning from them all and gaining the truth is impossible. Decisions create new worlds and in those new worlds more decisions are made which can perpetuate the cycle. All I can say is I’m doing my best and trying to live through love and light, appreciate the good around me and see things with unbiased eyes…I think this compliments Twain’s quote…

    “Perseverance must finish its work so that you may be mature and complete, not lacking anything. If any of you lacks wisdom, he should ask God, who gives generously to all without finding fault, and it will be given to him” (James 1:4-5). Was found on Spiritual leadership… Thank you again and look forward to learning with you all…

    #54306
    J
    Participant

    Hi CM….what do you think it says about you that you believe that a woman who cheated on you multiple times and had such little regard for you then…”completes” you now? It might be a good time to look inside of yourself and find a way to work on or get help for whatever is driving you to act the way you have been along with allowing someone who was toxic for you then, back into your life now. What you have for her sounds more like an obsession or a need to get what she never gave you before and probably still can’t give you now – or at least not long term.

    You can’t build a relationship that was already broken to begin with on the bones of another broken relationship (your marriage). And the fact that you even said that you loved this woman in front of your wife? How hurtful that must have been for your wife to hear. And for you to be okay to say that without concern or care for her speaks a lot to looking again at what’s going on with you and why you chose to do what you did then and why you are on a path that appears to be heading for a heartbreak again now.

    You are with someone who breeds nothing but insecurity within you. Right? To have a relationship, a healthy one, there has to be a solid foundation to build upon. I don’t see that here. Do you?

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