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    Lou
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    Hello everyone,

    My story is very simple. I find myself getting crushes on friends on mine, and while I love my friends very much and am very fortunate to have them, I acknowledge this is a problem. It objectifies my friends and pollutes my mind, distorting my perceptions of them. I am trying to stay busy with physical activity, but my latest crush is in one of the same workout groups to which I belong. I am having trouble letting go of my feelings which may or may not even be reciprocated. Her reciprocation or lack thereof doesn’t really matter one way or another, I am just having difficulty letting go of these feelings.

    I guess what I’m asking for is help letting go and still maintaining a friendship in this particular instance, and overall maintaining friendships without developing crushes. Any help is welcome, and I am open to providing any clarification going forward.

    Thank you.

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    Will
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    Hi Ik88,

    I’d like to rearrange your cause and effect structure, and advise a course of action based on that.

    You say: I find myself getting crushes on my friends > my friends are objectified, my mind is polluted and my perceptions of them are distorted.

    It’s not surprising you can’t see how to address this problem. You don’t play an active role at any of these steps. Let’s try this.

    Your perceptions of your friends are distorted > you start objectifying them > you develop a crush > your mind doesn’t feel like your own anymore and you get tangled up in conflict with yourself.

    (I don’t really like your “pollute the mind” phrasing. They’re just thoughts. Create the conditions for skillful thoughts and skillful thoughts will follow. You don’t have to clean up the mess in your mind, just let it dissolve. Anyway, that’s why I rephrased that part.)

    So, now you have four places to attack this problem, because you play an active role at every stage.

    Your perceptions of your friends are distorted? Remind yourself that they are your friends and fellow human beings whose company you enjoy. If you find yourself reading into innocent interactions and making them more intimate than they really are, notice, call yourself to order, and start again.

    You are objectifying your friends? Again, call yourself to order. Remind yourself this is a person, not a set of juicy body parts. Enjoy their appearance as part of their unique person. Remember it’s OK to enjoy the food you’re eating. It’s fine to see something you find appealing and think: hm, I like the look of that! Just don’t let that turn into “It must be mine!” and don’t forget it’s a fellow human being you’re looking at.

    You develop crushes? Ah, well, here is craving. Watch it arise, abide, watch it pass away. Don’t get too attached to your need to let go of it, this is what’s here right now, this is where you are. You’re reaping what you sowed. Keep working on the first two steps: focus on your friend as a person, keep your interactions friendly. It’ll pass.

    The last step is to me the most crucial. If you go to war with your own mind, guess who wins? Nobody. You are your mind. There are only losers. That’s why I don’t really like “pollution” as a metaphor, although I know many teachers will talk about it in those terms. To me it seems that conflict with the self is just a way to heap a whole load more suffering onto your own head. If you’re crushing on someone you like, and your head is full of thoughts and images you don’t want, don’t freak out. Just be like: hey, look at all this stuff going on in my mind. This isn’t very skillful, this isn’t what I want. But I’m not going to reject it, because this is my internal reality right now. I can sit and watch it, and gently remind myself of the good, friendly feelings I have towards this person and the way I want to think about them.

    Be gentle with yourself. I hope this is helpful; let me know if I missed the mark or didn’t quite understand the problem. Peace to you, and your lovely friends.

    #76437
    Lou
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    Thanks, Will. This new outlook sounds really constructive, and already I can feel my mind easing up.

    Remind yourself this is a person, not a set of juicy body parts

    I feel. It’s not so much appearance-wise that I’ve been objectifying my friends, but moreso in the “hey, it would be pretty cool to maybe get to know this person better one-on-one and maybe be exclusive” kind of objectification. The latter is something I believe to be a lot more toxic since that denotes possession. Your advice still works though. The whole “It must be mine!” attitude is destructive. She has her own life and agency and I have mine. She’s not a trophy, she’s not property. She’s a person, and overall a good friend.

    Don’t get too attached to your need to let go of it

    This think this is key here. My focus has been so hard on “No, this is bad; I need to stop” that I haven’t sat with it. I haven’t given it a chance to pass. I’ve just been trying to force it away.

    I think part of the problem is I do really enjoy this person and can relate to her well. I relate to such few folks in my circles anymore that when I find someone with whom I can relate, I find myself thinking deeply of them. Looking at it from a wider gradient though, this isn’t a problem at all! Meaningful interactions with friends are always positives. I just haven’t had many friends growing up, and I think my cultivation of “what it means to like someone” vs. “what it means to want to be intimate with someone” needs work. Fortunately, this too can be practiced.

    You and your well-thought guidance helps much. Thank you once again.

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