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    PearceHawk
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    The questions I have could fit just about in any topic but I do not know the appropriate place to post it. So I chose this site. A number of years ago I was reading a book about our relationship with ourselves, and our self, with feelings, emotions, thought etc. By the way I am intentionally not mentioning the book so as to not provoke bias, and the same holds true for a book I am now reading. Anyway in that particular book I read a statement by the author, which made sense, and for me it still does. The statement was, ” A feeling is a physical reaction to a thought, therefore you cannot have a feeling without first having a thought about what it is that created that feeling. ” What are your views on this?

    I ask that because in the current book I am reading, I am conflicted with what the author says. It kind of throws a wrench into the gears of my understanding. The statement is, ” It is not thoughts or facts that are painful but the feelings that accompany them. Thoughts in and of themselves are painless, but not the feelings that underlie them. It is the accumulated pressure of feelings that causes thoughts. ” 

    Feel free to color me with paralysis by analysis as it may be so, but again, on the surface those last comments seem to contradict themselves. If I do in fact suffer from paralysis by analysis, please, by all means, tell me. Is my suspicion of contradiction in these statements valid or am I missing the point? What are your thoughts on these seemingly two very different points of view?

     

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    Anonymous
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    Dear Pearce:

    (I just read some of your share from yesterday on another thread. What a powerful, powerful share. I had to take a break and I will read it again later).

    You asked what are the reader’s views on the quote: “A feeling is a physical reaction to a thought, therefore you cannot have a feeling without first having a thought about what it is that created that feeling. ”

    A feeling and a thought are both physical. Neither one is possible without a brain, which is a physical organ. Some physical events, as intangible as they may seem, take place and allow thoughts and feelings. Next: I disagree: a feeling is possible without having a thought first. For example when one touches a hot oven, the person (or animal) does not think: “this is hot. I am getting burned” before feeling fear. First there is fear, next there is the reaction, removing one’s hand from the hot stove. The fear is the motivating force to remove the hand. There is no time for thought.

    Otherwise, our thoughts and feelings (I use “feelings” and “emotions” interchangeably) are often entwined in webs of neuropathways and are not separate. This is why it is so difficult to change core beliefs: the thoughts making up what we believe about ourselves are entwined with strong emotions that glue the belief in place, making it resistant to change. And so, a feeling does not follow a thought, they are entwined, interwoven.

    As to another quote: “It is not thoughts or facts that are painful but the feelings that accompany them. Thoughts in and of themselves are painless, but not the feelings that underlie them. It is the accumulated pressure of feelings that causes thoughts. ” – first part, yes, feelings are painful, not thoughts. And there is a very close association between the two. As to there being “accumulated pressure of feelings that cause thoughts”- yes, in that when we feel distress, the thinking brain goes into action trying to resolve the distress, to find The Problem and then figure out The Solution, or solutions. When we are not aware of fundamental aspects of our distress, the thinking brain (logic, rational) will go on and on and on thinking, not coming up with a possible effective solution.

    anita

     

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