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    Ke
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    So, I’m at a point in my relationship with my boyfriend where I just don’t know which way to turn anymore. Sometimes he is very sweet and caring, and other times he acts like he couldn’t care less about me or my feelings.

    For some clarity, we live together, and have for about 6 months – we’ve only been together for a year. He’s a very damaged guy, with a bad history, and for the most part I understand how that can make him closed off and mistrustful. Our anniversary was a few weeks ago and he asked me to marry him. I said yes, because we’d been talking about it for a while.

    My problem is that he is completely unwilling to discuss his emotions about anything. When we fight, he makes everything out to be my fault – I’m too demanding, I take from him and give nothing, etc. The other day he said he’s given me 100% and I only give 1%. I do so much for him that it actually makes me want to punch him when he says shit like that. I make sure he eats, wake up earlier to get his clothes ready for work, watch the movies he wants to watch. All I ask of him is that he’s honest with me about how he feels.

    We have spoken in the fast, but he always turns the conversation into “you always do this, you don’t love me” etc, and when I try to offer an alternate perspective – my perspective he just says “we’re done talking now. No more talking about feelings ever.”

    He makes me feel as though I’m the only one doing anything wrong.

    On Saturdays, we both take a certain mind-altering substance and talk – it’s the only time he seems to be truly honest with me, and I can see a completely different side of him. One that he hides because he sees it as “weak”.

    Recently – last week Wednesday – we got into a huge fight and again, he turned around and basically told me that I take everything from him and give nothing back, that I don’t care about him, love him or respect him. When I tried to talk about it he brushed me off and refused to talk to me until Saturday morning, even slept on the couch. Saturday I tried again to talk and he just decided that he wanted to pretend everything was fine. He still is. I asked again on Sunday if we could talk, and he said he’s “not in the mood.”

    The problem is, he’s never in the mood and I’m starting to resent him for treating me this way. I know that I have done things to upset him in the past, but I don’t deserve to have my every mistake rubbed in my face – especially when I go out of my way not to do the same to him.

    I really don’t know what to do and I need advice/help/something.

    #113575
    Matty
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    Hi Ke,

    It appears your boyfriend does not trust you enough to be able to reveal who he truly is (without a ‘mind-altering substance’ whatever that is). But it also shows that he is quite insecure if he continually states, during discussions that ‘you don’t love him, respect him’ etc. It shows that he isn’t really comfortable with himself to the point that he is externalizing his problems and is really talking about himself. What I mean is, that he says ‘you don’t love him’ but really he is turning it around his head as “you couldn’t possibly love me, no one can love me”. It’s a defense mechanism so he doesn’t have to deal with his emotions, he blames everyone else for them and sees himself as inferior.

    In regards to having your mistakes thrown back in your face, i would consider this yet another example of insecurity as well as an inferiority complex. Pointing out your mistakes, in such a way that is aggravating is trying to prove something, trying to prove that ‘he wouldn’t make the same mistake’. The small things you do for him are largely being ignored, which begs the question, what he actually wants from you.

    Out of interest, does he notice things about you, for instance, if you get a haircut, bought some new clothes etc? I ask because it seems that he is self-absorbed, dealing with his own problems, that you aren’t really in a relationship, your just living together. What does he actually want from this relationship? What do you want? Because, it seems that you have found quite a lot of faults that he isn’t willing to work through, let only talk about. Even if someone has a ‘bad history’, that doesn’t mean they have to take it out on others, otherwise the cycle continues. Bad history will continue, simply because your boyfriend decided instead of being proactive, making a stand and seeking help, he chose to bottle it up, take it out on you (the one he supposedly loves) and make you feel like crap.

    My advice would be to sit down with each other and discuss where this relationship is going. Because, you are already living together, married life won’t change much, so what you are seeing is what you will get. If you cannot get this to happen, seek couples counselling, simply to put someone in between the two of you to moderate your discussion. And if this doesn’t work, then you are going to have to make an uncomfortable choice, stay or leave. It’s not your fault if your boyfriend wants to bottle everything up, it’s his own damn fault for letting it control his life and impact those closest to him.

    I hope this helps,
    MAtty

    #113576
    Ke
    Participant

    Matty, thank you so much for the reply. I suspect a lot of these things about him – the insecurity, projecting etc. He’s so caring sometimes and sometimes all he wants is cuddles and to be loved etc, but nothing I do for him is good enough anymore. He says I only care about him when he’s sick, but he doesn’t understand that he makes it so difficult for me to show affection because he rebuffs me all the time.

    I know the choice comes down to put up with this and be miserable for the rest of my life, or leave and uproot my entire life again. Not a nice decision to have to make and honestly, I don’t want to leave him – because I love him and I want to protect him. Stupid, I know, but maybe counselling would be a way to go. Don’t know if I’d be able to get him there, because he thinks all psychology is nonsense.

    #113582
    Matty
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    Ke,

    I understand that uprooting your life is not what you or anyone would want to do. I also understand that you do love him, the fact you are here talking about ‘what to do?’ is actually evidence that you care deeply enough about him to seek help and advice. Even if he thinks psychology is nonsense, counselling is more about interacting, setting goals in a mutual environment. Couple counselors aren’t going to analysis him, more likely they will analysis the relationship, be a voice of reason between the two of you. Honestly, it doesn’t have to be a counselor, it could be a friend that you both have or a family member. Counselors are impartial since they know neither of you.

    And if you cannot make him go with you to see someone, you need to tell him that it means a lot to you, and that you are trying to save this relationship. Don’t give your boyfriend an ultimatum, instead just say that the ‘relationship’ seems to be on the rocks and that you are concerned. You are in a sense concerned about the relationship, so talk to him about your relationship together. If he shuts you down again…. I’m not quite sure what you should do. Is it possible for both of you to take a day off from each other, even if you spend the night over at a mates place. Maybe some distance will put things into perspective for him.

    I hope this helps you a little. If you have more to say, please continue this post.
    MAtty

    #113662
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Ke:

    You wrote in your original post: “My problem is that he is completely unwilling to discuss his emotions about anything… All I ask of him is that he’s honest with me about how he feels.”

    You also wrote that he: “basically told me that I take everything from him and give nothing back, that I don’t care about him, love him or respect him.”- seems to me that he told you how he feels and the fact that he repeated himself (first time in your post: “The other day he said he’s given me 100% and I only give 1%”)- means he honestly FEELS that he is giving you a whole lot of love and that you give him very little.

    Doesn’t matter to my point whether it is true or not (I know you feel strongly that it isn’t)- and I don’t know what exactly he is referring to, what kind of giving, that is- but clearly, he honestly feels this way.

    So you know what he feels. And because he feels this way, really, he should cancel the wedding plan.

    If I was you, I would get details from him: what exactly is it that he feels he is giving and you are not? And listen to his answer, if he gives you one.

    And if you talk about this calmly with him (he dislike talking because so far it means fighting?), and he repeats himself yet again that indeed he strongly feels this way about the giving, then ask him why he wants to marry you (or you him)?

    anita

    #113695
    XenopusTex
    Participant

    My suggestion is to first lose whatever the mind altering substance is. It doesn’t bring enlightenment, etc. Sorry, but if you two have to get high to talk, there’s a problem. And, who knows if what you remember, if anything, is accurate.

    Second, this guy sounds like somebody who wants everything, but doesn’t like what he gets; i.e. it is never enough. Ask yourself if that is really worth it. Do you really want to spend time with somebody who
    doesn’t appreciate?

    Third, uprooting life is less miserable than living with someone who causes you a constant amount of stress.

    #113724
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    “No more talking about feelings ever.”

    OK, time to go.

    I’m sorry. Uprooting your life is going to be hard, I agree. But this relationship isn’t working (for either of you, it seems) and the only way to fix it is doing something he has made very clear in word and action he’s not willing to do.

    You cannot protect him. He is not a delicate orchid. He is your partner. He doesn’t even appreciate what you do for him. Drop the burden.

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