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June 18, 2016 at 6:30 pm #107615EvanParticipant
Hey Xenopustex,
This is normal when you begin seeking within. There are layers of energy within you, trapped by your thoughts that no longer serve you. As you realise these thoughts, and recognise, and let them go, you also let the energy go too. You will cry, and feel a plethora of emotions for a while to come. The energy needs to be release, and you will feel deeply. This is healthy, this is natural, and was caused by not listening to yourself way, way back when……
With each stage though…. a space is created within. Let it be for a while, and do not try to fill it up with other things. It will feel unfamiliar, and lonely, and scary as it is a space you have not allowed yourself to be in for some time. The unknown, comes with a feeling of being lost – until it becomes comfortable and your normal once again.
Anxiety is about trying to control the future. Thinking and planning the future is ok, but setting an expectation that what you decided upon, has to be realised…. is the essence of your stress and anxiety. The result will be what ever it is meant to be. Sometimes you will not know why it ‘had’ to be this way, until you have grown internally, and look back. It will be clear, and you will find a gratitude within that is profound.
Go easy on yourself….. Like a bottled up jar, open the lid a little, until you are practised at dealing with what pops out. Then when your heart is steady, and your intuition is once again realised, the open the lid.
Buy tissues, some comfort food, watch movies that make you cry, spend some time on your own, spend an hour on the beach or in a garden. Realise that life is constantly moving, and you are part of that process. You are once again constantly changing, and reconnecting with life.
It will be ok! It already is ok, but it just doesn’t feel like it yet.
Best
Evan
June 19, 2016 at 6:08 am #107644AnonymousGuestDear Xenopustex:
I re-read your posts and this is my understanding, developing as I type: you grew up mostly with your grandparents. You observed family dynamics early on, dynamics that turned off your motivation to interact with people on a personal level. Your father died some years ago and in 2014 your mother moved to your house, temporarily but still there and no end to the arrangement in sight.
I am thinking those Family Dynamics that you observed, was part of at an early age and onward, turned you off to human dynamics outside the family. In those dynamics empathy was a disadvantage; the empathetic person got hurt, and the aggressive person, “the hammer”, won. So as you grew up you had a choice between the two and you understandably chose to be the one not getting hurt, the hammer, that is.
As a hammer you stuck to the rational and to being aggressive. When you had that date with the woman and suggested dating her, and she reacted as if you wanted to have sex with her right there and then, it could have been that your aggressive vibrations lead her to believe that. I keep coming back to the hammer metaphor that you used. If on that date you were the hammer, then she felt like the nail that didn’t want to be hit by a hammer.
It is a shame you wrote there is no therapy available where you live. It may be a reason to leave and live elsewhere. Also, a good reason for your distress is your mother, not only since 2014 when she moved in with you but way before that, when you were a child. I am supposing you are afraid to confront her, to tell her to move out. It is with her that you need to be a hammer, tell her you need her out of your house.
I don’t see how you can bring back the empathy you put behind you all by yourself. It takes help, someone to help you, someone you trust. If you’d like, please post more about those family dynamics that affected you so deeply. I will respond every time you post.
anita
June 19, 2016 at 10:16 am #107673XenopusTexParticipantNorth Dakota is a beautiful state, but it does lack some things. The further West you go, the less there is. Heck, have a ~240 mile one-way trip just to get to me dermatologist.
Just watched a lot of disfunctionality; verbal abuse, manipulation, some physical abuse, etc. Several members of the family I could observe just never could seem to get/keep things together.
I had decided to just let things kind of die out with me. Why let they craziness continue on to another generation. Never much took part in a lot of social events because just didn’t feel like I belonged.
Now, when looking at my beliefs and trying to evaluate them, kind of scares me to think that I may have wasted so many years.
June 19, 2016 at 11:07 am #107675AnonymousGuestDear xenopustex:
I learned that wasting years, decades and often enough whole life times is the norm, not the exception. I see it in my life and I see it in others’. Waste of time, and of resources, real and potential is indeed, the norm in personal lives and in the world at large. Efficiency, good use of resources is the exception; waste and destruction is the norm.
And so, better wake up at some point and stop the waste you can stop. I too chose to not let the craziness of my childhood pass on to the next generation and so, I chose from the beginning to not bring children here.
Be back at the computer in a few hours. Please post again.
anita
June 19, 2016 at 2:52 pm #107695XenopusTexParticipantWorking on the “waking up” thing. The challenge is that my contacts collection is rather limited. Kind of like realizing that your entire outlook on things may be wrong, and you are living on a figurative island.
Kind of amazing and yet depressing to look back at things. Terrible sense of mourning. Not so much missed fiscal opportunities, but personal ones.
For about 2 decades, I have wasted lots of things with a crabby attitude, irritability, hostility, etc. Still trying to figure out why I apply the porcupine approach to just about everybody, even people I would love to have a relationship with.
I also don’t understand what triggered this what the heck is wrong with my life question, and why did it take so log to get here. Maybe stress from work, maybe it was losing somebody I truly cared for, maybe it was everything together. Would have been great if I had gotten to this point before about half my life was gone.
June 19, 2016 at 7:51 pm #107724AnonymousGuestDear xenopustex:
If you wake up now before you are 40, you will be 10 years ahead of me. You are regretting lost time but the … funny thing is no matter how glorious your past could have been, it would still be gone and lost. The past is lost simply because it is gone.
You wrote that half of your life is gone, well, you don’t know it: you don’t know how long you will live. You might have just one more day.Some people do have only one day, they die as babies on their first day.
Most people never wake up, or if they wake up, they get swollen in regret and give up; or they get scared and go back to sleep. Will you wake up and stay awake?
To wake up every day, you need to see reality for what it is: the past is lost for everyone. It always is. Waste is the norm. Waking up and staying awake is the exception. Love is possible for you, love with a woman. These are all realities.
Regarding the latter, I hope you can settle the situation with that woman in your life, your mother. It may be significant in your quest to have love with the right woman for you.
anita
June 20, 2016 at 10:17 am #107763XenopusTexParticipantUnderstand the swollen in regret thing. Some truly terrible pain. I have broken all bones in a knee, had a root canal without sufficient novacaine, etc., and have never experienced any physical pain like the emotional pain of this.
June 20, 2016 at 10:21 am #107765AnonymousGuestDear xenopustex:
Will it help for you to verbalize this pain here, on your thread? State it like it is: what hurts?
anita
June 20, 2016 at 10:43 pm #107822XenopusTexParticipantMaybe. It is a combination of intense depression, loneliness, and anxiety. Just feel so stupid for my approach to things at times. A lot of anxiety about the future: will changes actually mean anything; does believing in a potentially better future make it more likely; etc.
Put time in on introspection, etc., over the weekend and wondering if the pain, tears, and anxiety were really worth it, especially when looking at all of the other obligations piling up at work.
Find myself asking, even professionally, will changes make a difference?
Display such an image of crassness and hostility at times that I don’t think people can see anything but that. I get lied to so often in work, etc., that I wind up being cynical to just about everybody. Also tend to be aggressive in handling things. Lots of opportunities lost with that combination.
Struggling with visualizing a better outcome so to speak. Can’t seem to get to the point of even hinting at a soft-side in a relationship. Maybe I just don’t know how at this point. Though industriousness, loyalty, and fidelity don’t seem to be that saleable.
June 21, 2016 at 7:07 pm #107894AnonymousGuestDear xenopustex:
I wish I opened your thread sooner today and answered sooner. I appreciate you opening up here, very much so and honored that you did so at my suggestion.
Your last sentence: industriousness, loyalty and fidelity not being saleable- need be saleable to just one woman, one life partner, and it is not too late for you. You can have the kind of relationship, with a woman, that will make your life so very different, so much better. It takes only one woman to highly value your qualities.
The paragraph before it: your image of crassness that people can’t see anything but it. Well, I can. I can see something else. And so will that one, the just one that you need.
Before that you asked: will changes make a difference? Depending on the nature of the changes. Some changes afford opportunities for the changes that do matter. For example, if you move to a big city but you take your mother to live with you there, then there will be no difference. But if you move without her, and on top, you attend psychotherapy that is not available to you where you are, then there will be great difference.
Staying where you are, still, you can make changes that will make a difference. If you are wise about the changes you choose to make. Trying to change your image with the little society where you live, probably will make no difference. Approaching that woman you mentioned, in a different way, opening up to her like you haven’t done before, that might make a difference.
The Serenity prayer:
“god, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change,
the courage to change the things I can
and the wisdom to know the difference.”Did you watch the movie Groundhog Day? About a man stuck in a small town and in the same day? A crass kind of guy. It is about change, from crassness to softness. You may want to watch it. You may like it, be inspired by it.
Please do post again and I will look for your thread earlier while online and reply.
anita
June 21, 2016 at 11:18 pm #107911XenopusTexParticipantI have a business trip this week that’s a four-hour one-way drive. Down to the state capital. Kind of a bit nervous, for the first time I am asking myself the question: what if I don’t want to come back? But, then I ask myself if that would just be foolishness. I make about 75% more per year than a comparable position down there.
Also just incredibly tired. Joyless times are miserable. I wish I could sincerely believe that there was somebody for me. I need to get better at positive expectations, but I run into what appears to be reality. When things were going well with that gal, I felt better than I have in years, hell decades.
Working on how to market stability, loyalty, and fidelity into a sellable package. Also working on figuring out how to show my soft side without looking stupid, desperate, etc.
I have a strong tendency to be negative and am working on curbing that too. That is probably not conducive to relationships. Being exposed daily from multiple sources doesn’t particularly help.
One thing I can’t figure out is why has stuff in general gone to hell in a handbasket since I tried to help my mother out with housing? Get up in the morning to some negative comment about the news, sometimes get hit with negative comments about stuff when I get home. Get crap about how men suck, etc. at times too. Feel like I have an albatross around my neck and not sure how to get rid of it. Every aspect of life has gotten worse, even things that shouldn’t be that connected such as finances. People think strangely if you live with parents at middle age, probably not a seller in the dating market. Add to that being single, and having a firearm collection, and, well, yeah… Not really socially acceptable to toss her out either. Maybe I should move, would suck financially though. So, really feeling stuck by my own stupidity of believing that somehow something would actually get done.
June 22, 2016 at 6:50 am #107924AnonymousGuestDear xenopustex:
It is a no brainer for me to figure that’s the first, current problem that needs to be attended to is that albatross around your neck. First, remove that. You wrote: “I have a strong tendency to be negative and am working on curbing that too.” And next you wrote how your mother, currently, contributes to the strong tendency you have to be negative: “Get up in the morning to some negative comment about the news, sometimes get hit with negative comments about stuff when I get home. Get crap about how men suck, etc”
So, how are you “working on curbing that”? Can’t with the negative albatross around your neck.
You are already seen as crass and aggressive in the eyes of the people at work and where you live; if you remove your mother from your home and the town people see you as crass and aggressive-
Wait! They are already seeing you that way, no difference.
But you are seeing yourself badly when you entertain the thought of removing her from your home. You wrote before that you were raised by your grandparents. Why didn’t your mother raise you and what was her contribution to your young life?
anita
June 22, 2016 at 10:36 pm #107982XenopusTexParticipantShe worked in a city about 40 miles from where I grew up. Would see her mostly on weekends. Would travel sometimes, mostly to IL and MN area. She tends to think that men are inherently unreliable, etc.
She and my father divorced way, way back when. Did not know much about him, other than some periodic contacts. Usually I didn’t go to the right college, right law school, take the right job, etc.. He had come into money shortly before he died, and based on stuff I found after he died, was working on more-or-less disinheriting me, but like many people in the family, never got around to things. He did not approve of my job, and so was going to put a will together leaving his estate to other family members. His family didn’t appreciate the result.
I guess one of the issues I feel is that I don’t exactly know the best course of action. I want to distance myself from the current situation. Just not sure whether I should just seek out a new place for myself or get her to move.
Still trying to make myself believe that there is someone out there for me. Also making myself meet people and go to social events. Struck up a conversation with a smart and educated woman this week, to me, she was drop-dead attractive. Bad thing is, she is about 13 years younger than I am. At least I am meeting people I guess.
June 23, 2016 at 7:49 am #108012AnonymousGuestDear xenopustex:
I think that a 27 year old woman is not necessarily too young for a soon to be 40 year old man. Here is a possible rule of thumb: if the woman started aging (mid twenties, I think)- then maybe she is not too young. And then maturity level is far from being a product of age.
Regarding the burden around your neck, please do remove it. Your mother said she was going to live with you temporarily. Then she chose to not keep her word. Help her be a woman of her word and insist she keeps her promise, late but better than not at all. Let your yes be yes, your no be no and it-will-only-be-for-awhile be only for a while.
The fact that you are employed, a lawyer/ prosecutor, making a good living, with a reasonable future of earning more and more as time goes by, this is a big attraction for millions and millions of women world wide. I am not suggesting you open your heart and mind to a gold digger or to a woman otherwise desperate for a shelter, or that you use this fact to mistreat another. What I am suggesting is that you consider this reality of how attractive your financial/ professional position is to a lot of women.
I strongly recommend you clear your home from the presence of your mother, and pursue a true, loving relationship with a woman of your choosing, of your wise choosing.
anita
June 23, 2016 at 10:12 pm #108088XenopusTexParticipantI hear you about changing living situation.
I don’t like to discuss finances when contemplating a relationship. However, my salary is at least public record, so not like I can keep that secret. I know how some folks advertise their status, but that’s just not me. Heck, I still drive the 2009 Camry I bought back when I started this position.
Feels a bit strange to even contemplate such an age difference. Was refreshing to see somebody who seemed to have a sense of direction.
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