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June 29, 2016 at 7:47 pm #108537AnonymousGuest
Dear xenopustex:
If she is moody and depressed, and considering a relationship with a woman as a solution to her troubles with men, well, she is not the right woman for you. For one thing, you are a man. Second, you need a woman who is mentally well and unfortunately, she is not. So I see this a lost cause.
As I see it, you need a practical, pragmatic, down to earth, logical, emotionally contained woman who isn’t invested in romantic ideas, who needs a limited amount of your time and attention. A woman who doesn’t have use for ongoing negative commentary; a hard working woman, having her own career- doesn’t have to be something fancy, but something that engages her and keeps her occupied.
Till your next post-
anita
June 29, 2016 at 9:50 pm #108542XenopusTexParticipantYou are right. I seem to find women I am attracted to, but aren’t really available. Struck up a conversation with an intelligent and beautiful woman today, only to learn that due to the nature of our jobs, it wouldn’t work. Sigh… So hard to find those attributes out here. She lit up and and smiled just looking at me, and was immediately ready to talk. Never had that reaction from a woman before. Is that what is supposed to happen?
June 30, 2016 at 5:58 am #108574XenopusTexParticipantYou are also right about sometimes winding up going back to sleep. Found myself back in the office a lot, and back to generally feeling crabby, joyless, and not responding well to people. Being aware of things is much harder than many other tasks.
June 30, 2016 at 7:29 am #108582AnonymousGuestDear xenopustex:
When the woman you talked to lit up and smiled just looking at you, that felt good, I am sure, felt good to you and that is what should happen in a loving relationship- someone smiling at you, someone happy to see you.
And that is different from what you got from your abusive grandfather and it is different from what you are getting from your mother presently, with her negative commentary.
I am thinking you avoided closer relationships because what you associated with it was that Frown you got from the people in your young life. If you associated a Smile with them, why you would gravitate toward more smiles.
So Attribute # 1 in a woman is that smile factor. She must be happy just looking at you; she must be happy that you exist and that you are in her life. She must feel fortunate to have you in her life.
Life is gloomy and dreadful when no one is happy you are alive. There must be someone, outside of yourself, saying to you in one way or another: Glad you see you are here!
anita
June 30, 2016 at 11:54 am #108616XenopusTexParticipantWent out and toured an outdoor event today. Was surprised at being able to get people to smile back. So used to other reactIons that such is foreign. Not sure why, but getting a woman to smile back invokes almost a feeling of well being.
June 30, 2016 at 2:13 pm #108620AnonymousGuestDear xenopustex:
The reason why “getting a woman to smile back invokes almost a feeling of well being” because that is what we try to do since we are babies, make the one handling us, usually the mother (a woman) to smile back at us. That gives the baby a feeling of well being. When the mother smiles back at the baby, that means she is going to take good care of the baby and that means well being.
We don’t outgrow this. As a matter of fact, the least we had of that smile, the more we want it. You tried your best to not need it, to survive without it. This is obviously possible but the cost is lack of well being.
So inside the tough xenopustex is a boy still needing a smile, a love back from a woman.
Good thing, it is possible for you!
anita
June 30, 2016 at 4:03 pm #108630XenopusTexParticipantI guess part of the thing is that I just feel so awkward and silly. Working on trying to have more finesse. Wish I could approach this with the confidence of what I do for a living. Concepts such as belief and faith in an outcome in this area are somewhat alien to me.
Feels silly to have something as simple as a woman smiling invoke emotions of wellbeing and happiness. Smiles can be easily faked. From a logical standpoint, I can’t really make sense of it. Maybe it is partly me oriignally, and ma Be it is partly experiences from the job, but emotions and facial expressions can be faked to manipulate people. Generally, when I see somebody smile, I ask myself what do they want.
I don’t get the disconnect between the side of me that sees displays of emotion as gamesmanship and the side of the that wanted to spend time with that one gal who lit up when I looked at her from across the room and struck up a conversation with me.
Between the part of me thinking that this is BS of some form, and the part of me that wanted to experience more time with her. And, no it wasn’t just a sexual affection thing; she did look great, but more than that. She could have worn sackcloth instead of the blouse and skirt, and it would of not have mattered. The feeling was amazing, but depressing when it goes. There was a feeling of connection without saying anything. Then I learned that her career and my career would probably mean a conflict.
Is this feeling of wholeness and oneness what I have been depriving myself of all these years?
I remember growing up that I was considered an imposition on people. Perhaps that is part of why I frequently have this deep seated sense of loneliness that is nearly unshakeable at times.
June 30, 2016 at 8:41 pm #108635AnonymousGuestDear xenopustex:
You grew up unloved, considered an imposition. What you needed was one grown up to welcome you to their world. And there was none. Hence the “deep seated sense of loneliness”
There is very little love in this world. And no matter how hard we try to live well without love, we fail. We are born to reach out for love. It is the nature we are born with. So when you feel silly to be feel emotional about a woman smiling at you, it is you feeling silly for being human.
Many smiles are faked, lies are told, manipulations, cruelty, violence- everywhere. But all you need is just that one woman whose smile to you will be genuine, not aimed at getting something from you but simply because she is happy that you are in her world; a trustworthy woman who will love you as you are, not much finesse require, no pretending on your part- just you, as you are.
And it is so very possible for you. I would like it to happen in your life and soon enough.
anita
July 1, 2016 at 5:07 pm #108692XenopusTexParticipantTrying to figure out how people have faith that they will find a suitable partner. My birthday is coming up in late August. I would absolutely love to be in some sort of relationship at that point. The thing is, that doesn’t feel like typical goal stuff.
I don’t really have much faith, in either a higher power or in humanity. Started out Methodist, now pretty much a nihilist atheist. Particularly in the realm of moral nihilism. Kind of strange given what I do.
I so want to believe that there is somebody for me out there. Right now, there are few things more important to me than finding that special someone. Live in a town where men out number women on a stupid scale. Anyone of any quality, assuming they are not terrified to come out here, gets snapped up pretty fast. My qualities are inner, not much to talk about outerwise.
So, how does one develop faith in good outcomes in this are?
July 1, 2016 at 5:40 pm #108695AnonymousGuestDear xenopustex:
I share what you don’t believe in. I see truth in what I observe in nature and in people’s motivations and behaviors. I know we are born to reach out to a parent so to be taken care of- and so we are born loving. We are born loving not because it is a nice thing, to be loving, or a moral thing but simply because if the parent loves a child, then the parent will take care of the child.
Everything is about survival of the individual and the species. And love, that is necessary for the survival of the child, being dependent. But as adults, we don’t outgrow that need.
There is no religion in it, no morality- it is nature.
You talk about Faith in good outcomes- I have faith in the rules of nature. I have faith that a plant will grow toward the sun, that a male frog will seek a female to mate with, that water will move in the least resistant path along the ground, that animals and people move away from pain and toward pleasure, and so forth. These are the things I have faith in.
There is a whole lot of distortion of nature in human behavior: parents not loving their children, harming their children, violence and destruction and a whole lot of waste. This is because of the complication cognition brings about: the ability to think and choose- that often perverts nature, unfortunately. The perversion is people acting counter productive to their own survival and to the survival of their offspring.
So I have faith in nature and I have faith in the perversion, because both are realities. This is why I wrote to you repeatedly that all you need is one woman, one woman who is not in the habit of perverting nature.
Which one is it that you don’t believe: that there is an honest, loving woman out there or that it is possible for such a woman to love you?
anita
July 1, 2016 at 8:42 pm #108704XenopusTexParticipantI guess that you could say it is both. You see all sorts of strange bipedal organisms out here. Quality professional women are very rare out here. The town has a really bad reputation. We don’t attract many professionals of either sex, but quality women seem to really be scared of it out here.
Next as a public sector attorney, there are some practical considerations. That gal who lit up when she saw me (despite me not looking me best that day) and who I was interested in, turned out to be with the press out here… Sigh. Went from feeling great about possibly starting an acquaintanceship to walking away feeling really depressed.
Having a hard time believing that this woman is out there, or at least out here. I see couples wandering around and ask myself, how the heck did they ever find each other?
Then, not sure that even if I did find that one woman, she’d be interested. Sort of that glasses wearing geek. Not flashy. Not terribly adventurous. Men in my family grey early, and the stress of the job certainly doesn’t help with that. From a physically attractive standpoint, I ain’t it.
Not sure how to communicate things like honesty, fidelity, etc. without sounding/looking silly, or sounding like the stuff that probably gets told on a daily basis. Surely, there has to be some value in a woman not having to worry about whether or not her partner is faithful. In not having to worry about what her partner may be bringing home. The thing is, communicating it so that it is believed by the other side.
One of the things that I have been doing is making myself go out and interact with others each day. Have been getting better at social interactions.
Interesting take on belief. I believe in how nature functions, at many levels. That belief stops when I look at humans. We aren’t like most other things in nature.
Overall, guess it’s both. Would absolutely love to have a relationship in my life by the end of August. what is the best way to replace a belief that it ain’t never got to happen with a belief that this is possible?
July 2, 2016 at 6:18 am #108716AnonymousGuestDear xenopustex:
As to your last question, how to believe a loving relationship with a future mate is possible?
Unfortunately it is similar to a person applying for a job and being told the applicant has to have experience in that type of job so to get this job. The applicant is frustrated: how do I get experience if I don’t get a job?
To believe a loving relationship with a woman is possible for you, that there is a woman out there who you will value and who will love you- you have to have the experience first.
So how the… do you do it? Slowly, one step at a time. You are already go out and interact with people in social situations every day, on purpose. Next: interact with individual women on a casual dating setting, such as having coffee together or lunch.
You have to have the experience so for your core belief or faith to change. There is no other way. Some people try hypnotism, positive affirmations, religion… but I believe that at best there is a short term benefit to these things.
I will write more in a separate post because this one I am typing has a whole lot in it as is.
anita
July 2, 2016 at 6:26 am #108717AnonymousGuestDear xenopustex:
You wrote: ” You see all sorts of strange bipedal organisms out here. Quality professional women are very rare out here.”
A professional woman is not necessarily quality, but you know that already. Do you know though what a “quality woman” is? Do you know any? If you don’t know what a quality woman looks like, or sounds like, thinks like, acts like, then how do you identify one?
Would you like to describe a Quality Woman?
As far as your physical attractiveness: it just so happens that the geek look that you believe is unattractive, I personally found it attractive in my youth and in my twenties, glasses and all. I learned long ago that I am not the only one in any area, and so there are other women who are attracted to geekiness.
anita
July 2, 2016 at 10:16 pm #108757XenopusTexParticipantToday, I sat down and put a listing together of the things that I was looking for in a significant other. Also put a list of things together that I would probably need to do, be, or change.
Took a look at myself and came to the conclusion that I still have a lot to work on in terms of attitude and outlook. Have been working on being happier and more optimistic. I smile more than I used to. Though, has been very challenging lately due to job issues.
July 3, 2016 at 9:15 am #108773AnonymousGuestDear xenopustex:
It occurred to me just now that you can practice with me, right here, practice communicating with a woman person. You can practice typing to me as if you are talking to me, back and forth. This is an idea and I am fine with you not taking it. It might not be a good idea. See, I am typing as I am thinking it.
If you choose to practice here, with me, you can start your next post with “(something) anita”- a greeting of some kind that will fit you. Then you can think: what are we doing here? I am here to help myself and hoping to help you. I enjoy learning about different people, learning motivations, thinking, behaviors- that makes it possible for me to learn more about myself, others, life. Why are you here, communicating with me? Do you feel anything about me or am I, in your mind, an anonymous computer entity, not a person?
I am a person and my real name is anita. Everything I wrote on this website about me is factually true. I have no motivation here other than what I stated here with you. If you read my many posts, you will see that I am consistent in stating my motivation and that indeed, my sharing about my self and my life is consistent. And all is factually true.
What do you feel about me, the person writing you? Talk to me like I am a person.
If you choose not to practice, keep writing like you have so far.
anita
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