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  • #164510
    keith
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    hi

    i found  this description of my girl friend .

    “Most people feel uncomfortable telling a lie, and usually need to confess the lie and have a need to be honest. A sociopath is opposite to this. A sociopath actually feels uncomfortable telling the truth.

    The lie is his weapon. It is his protection from the outside world. Sociopaths lie about everything and everything. They will make up huge stories, lies that they would obviously get caught out about later on, they will continue to tell, and when you are close to revealing the lie, they will lie further to protect the lie. Protecting the lie is more important than your feelings.”

    every thing in that parargraph is true about my girl friend .

    we were together in a long distance relationship for 3 years , we absolutely adored respected and trusted each other ( but now that seems like an illusion ) , i did not have a reason to doubt her we met 2 or 3 times a month any where between 3 to 7 days at a stretch, in between the meeti gs whats app was our mode of contact .

    she relocated last october and since then we have met twice last was in march this year , in june we had our first fight it was over a rather small issue of her telling me she was not going to a office function but i found out she did go for it , and she lied about it .

    since then ( early until end july ) we have been fighting like crazy and its all to do with the inconsistencies in her stories.

    there were the classic signs of something not right the late working hours , lies cover ups and lies again , social media activity intensified , always being on whats app but not with me , ward robe re vamp, no time for us .

    i came to visit her in first week of august and found out she was cheating on me since june , this was on the 12 aug i found out accidentally ( not snooping ) on her message when confronted she tried to lie at first but then gave in .

    in retrospect i had caught her 7 to 10 times and did not want to persue it further as she claimed her work was getting her depressed ( works as a doctor in a govt hospital ), but i did adress my concerns and she always got angry .

    and the times i was absolutely convinced she was having an affair she always reminded me of the good times we had and how we were and how i am ruining all this with my insecurities .

    there were times i was so convinced i told her we are breaking up because this is not healthy for me but she managed to convince me other wise

    i asked her whats the plan forward with us , her plan was i stay until 6th sep and then she goes back to him .

    I did not accept that and decide to leave that very night , she then changed it to i stay and she breaks up with him for good .

    so she first said she still loved him and would not break up witb him , on the 14th she said she will break up witb him i told her to call him and tell him that , to which she did in front of me .

    and last night she says she wants to start this again and loves me .

    Nothing is making any sense to me, how can she say she loves him 2 days ago and now says she loves me and not him anymore .

    i also found out that when i was here ( i met her on 9th aug) she met him twice ( her colleague) and from messages ( snooping ) i found she promised to meet him after i go , i confronted her with these messages thats when she said she will stop this with him .

    my concern is that if i did not find the messages she would have gone back to him anyway , and this calling and telling him can be just a smoke screen , she says i was always her love blah blah and she will be there 3 weeks so we can work this out.

    i dont trust her any more coz she lies she is manuplative and she has little about right and wrong .

    she has been  begging me to stay and i ask her what has changed since the 14th aug to last night and her replay is ” i want to be with u ” i have asked her this 100 times and its tbe same answere no deeper layers …which is also a concern that she is lying .

    i cannot bear to see her crying and begging me even physically stopping me and today morning she swallowed 6 pills coz i said i was going .

    i really want to go as i need to start healing again because the magnitude of the lies betryal and manupilation is enormus, but i cannot leave her like this she is a complete wreck right now sayjng she is sorry and will never do it again she has come to her senses , and that we will work this out to give her a last chance .

    i was thinking of giving us  a chance staying until the 6th of sep.

    and this i want to becasue i still love her but im scared it will be very difficult to trust her again even though she says she will never lie again .

     

    can someone see something i dont

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    #164522
    Alien incident47
    Participant

    The trust is not broken,  it’s gone , that the she swallowed pills says she is controlling you. “If I cant have you then I will harm myself ” . How do you plan on having a relationship with no trust , she broke it , sure you had good times its why you were together for a period of time. But did she remember the good times when she cheated ?  Sometimes you got to cut your losses and go . And on anther note the fact she tried hurting her self because you are leaving,  that’s also abuse

    #164596
    Anonymous
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    Dear keith:

    If indeed you believe that your girlfriend is a sociopath, and that “Sociopaths lie about everything and everything” as you stated at the beginning of your post, then when “she says she will never lie again”, which you stated at the end of your post, she was lying.

    Are you not sure about your beginning-of-post evaluation that she does and will “lie about everything and everything”?

    anita

    #164640
    Eliana
    Participant

    Hi Keith,

    I’m sorry you are having to go through this. I see alot of red flags in your post. The first: once trust is broken, it is almost impossible to get it back. Resentment sets in, and you are left always doubting her, the relationship, whether she is with other men on “what’s App”.  This builds and builds, it’s a vicious cycle and destroys a relationship.

    The 2nd: the lying and manipulation on her part. Again, if you stayed with her, you would most likely not be happy in the long run, as she does not sound emotionally stable or available for a long term commitment.

    3. You both seem to be long distance, relying on Social media as a form of communication. She enjoys the attention of other men on “What’s App”. It does not sound like she is going to change, wants to be in a stable, long term committed relationship. Only she can change if she truly wants, you can’t fix her, yo you deserve better, a stable loving woman who knows what she wants, who is healthy, honest and happy.

    #164642
    keith
    Participant

    Thanks !!!

    For taking the time to reply …

    @ alien u right it’s impossible doing this without trust and since the last post have confronted her with several other issues which at first she denies and once I tell her how I know she ” confesses ” and swears never to lie again :).

    Even though she is a Doctor and knew the pills she was taking were harmless to her it’s the motive that’s appaling ..


    @anita
    for the last 3 years before this there was no need for me

    To suspect her so I never did dwell on stuff, now that I am visiting her most of my doubts and concerns of her Lying have been answered, which is a pathalogial liar and does anything to protect her lies until I give her evidence ..u know how it is I want to beleive her but after these couple of days since I last posted she has lied to me again several times and the same trend …

    To answere your question yes now in retrospect I do think she has huge issues liar / manuplarivr and does not have a concious

    @ Eliana all your points make perfect sense and really thanks for taking the time , for the record she has and promised me she wants to Change but how can I beleive her …

    Will update

    #164658
    Eliana
    Participant

    Hi Keith,

    Do you know if she had a traumatic or dysfunctional childhood? Sometimes unresolved issues from a vet traumatic childhood can manifest itself into adulthood, causing defense mechanisms we used as children, but we still use them in our adulthood, but they no longer work. Pathological lying, can stem from defense mechanisms that were put in place in childhood, and it is an unconscious act that follows us in to adulthood unfortunately if left unresolved.

    Has she tried Psychotherapy to get to the root of the problem? The lying is a symptom of an underlying mental illness or personality disorder and will not go away with being screened for mental illness and professional treatment.

    #164682
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Keith:

    When a woman (and medical doctor) “has huge issues liar / manipulative and does not have a conscious”- it is not a good thing to be her patient; it is not a good thing to be her boyfriend; it is not a good thing to … have anything to do with her, isn’t it?

    I mean, it is no way to live, challenging what she says to you, looking for evidence, bringing the evidence to her, again and again, until she … confesses. Then again, the same.

    anita

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