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  • #426974
    Kiersten
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    <p style=”text-align: left;”>Last Christmas I had dinner with my toxic mother. She is a narcissist and boderline. She is very emotionally abusive towards me. She did something hurtful and when I confronted her in a compassionate and gentle way she got very resentful with me. 3 days after Christmas we stopped talking to each other. I have temporarily blocked her from contacting me. However I accidentally took the green tea from her home she was very upset and wanted me to return it before I blocked her. However I blocked her because she was taking a toll on my mental health. I am a bit conflicted about the right thing to do. I don’t want to be karmically responsible for keeping something that is not mine. However mailing it back would be very costly for me on my limited income. I don’t want to risk going there personally because she will probably verbally abuse me. I don’t know anyone who is willing to drop it off. What is the right thing to do? Should I figure out how to give it back or is it ok to let it go? I don’t know the right thing to do.</p>

    #426979
    anita
    Participant

    Dear Kiersten:

    Congratulations for blocking a toxic person from contacting you!

    I would like to answer your question in regard to returning green tea to your mother, but I need to understand the following before I am able to answer:

    When you say: “I accidentally took the green tea from her home”- (1) what do you mean by green tea: bags of green tea? Or a tea set of a teapot, tea cups, saucers, a sugar bowl and such? (2) what do you mean by accidently?

    anita

    #427016
    Kiersten
    Participant

    To reply. My mom gave me a box of green tea for Christmas. She also had another box of the same tea she gave me on the table that she bought for herself for Christmas. I was in a hurry to get home after or Christmas celebration because it was getting late and packed up all the gifts she had given me. Unintentionally and without realizing it I put her box of tea along with the gifts she had given me. When I came home I realized I did accidentally take her green tea home. The next morning she called and was upset about it. I apologized to her and promised to return it. But a few days later we got into a fight and the stress of the fighting caused some of my health issues to flare up. My doctors advised me not to speak to her until further notice. I was hit with an unexpected expense this month and unable to mail it back to her at this time. I’m paying a lot of medical expenses and don’t have extra money to get it back to her. I don’t feel comfortable taking the bus to drop it off because I fear I’ll be verbally abused or harassed. I don’t know anyone to drop it off in my behalf. When I sign up in group therapy in 2 weeks I need my case worker to contact her on my behalf to inform her I cannot afford to send it back at this time. It doesn’t feel right to keep what is rightfully hers but at the same time I cannot sacrifice my own well being and make a financial sacrifice for her when I am paying for for medical expenses my health insurance does not cover and there are no charities or people willing to offer me any assistance. What would be the right thing to do?

    #427017
    anita
    Participant

    Dear Kiersten:

    I will read and reply to you when I am back to the computer in a few hours or as late as tomorrow.

    anita

    #427045
    anita
    Participant

    Dear Kiersten:

    A few comments before I answer your question best I can:

    1) I looked up the costs of a bag of green tea and although many cost under $10, some as low as a few dollars, there are expensive bags of tea such as the Jasmine Pearls Full-Leaf Green Tea bag which steeps 200 cups and costs $134.50. So, I understand that a bag of green tea can be an expensive item.

    2) It is sad that your mother is generous with you as far as material gifts go (“packed up all the gifts she had given me“), but will not give you the gift of a calm, respectful mother who promotes her daughter’s mental health (“She is very emotionally abusive towards me… I blocked her because she was taking a toll on my mental health“).

    And now, my answer: because you believe in karma (“I don’t want to be karmically responsible for keeping something that is not mine“), and because you promised to return it (“I apologized to her and promised to return it”)better that you return it to her“, you better return it to her.

    Because you say that you don’t have the money to mail it, that you don’t have anyone to take it and drop it off at your mother’s. and you don’t want to drop it off yourself because you are afraid that she will verbally abuse you, I suggest that you put the bag of tea in a box or in a plastic bag, go to your mother’s place, quickly put the bag outside her door, and immediately walk away and back to the street. Once you are in a safe distance from her home, text her with the message that the bag of tea is right outside her door. If you can’t text her, call her and hang up right after delivering the message.

    Then go back to your home, karma cleared and promise fulfilled.

    anita

    #427046
    anita
    Participant

    Re-submitted (because there’s an error in the first submission):

    Dear Kiersten:

    A few comments before I answer your question best I can:

    1) I looked up the costs of a bag of green tea and although many cost under $10, some as low as a few dollars, there are expensive bags of tea such as the Jasmine Pearls Full-Leaf Green Tea bag which steeps 200 cups and costs $134.50. So, I understand that a bag of green tea can be an expensive item.

    2) It is sad that your mother is generous with you as far as material gifts go (“packed up all the gifts she had given me“), but will not give you the gift of a calm, respectful mother who promotes her daughter’s mental health (“She is very emotionally abusive towards me… I blocked her because she was taking a toll on my mental health“).

    And now, my answer: because you believe in karma (“I don’t want to be karmically responsible for keeping something that is not mine“), and because you promised to return it (“I apologized to her and promised to return it”), you better return it to her.

    Because you say that you don’t have the money to mail it, that you don’t have anyone to take it and drop it off at your mother’s. and you don’t want to drop it off yourself because you are afraid that she will verbally abuse you, I suggest that you put the bag of tea in a box or in a plastic bag, go to your mother’s place, quickly put the bag outside her door, and immediately walk away and back to the street. Once you are in a safe distance from her home, text her with the message that the bag of tea is right outside her door. If you can’t text her, call her and hang up right after delivering the message.

    Then go back to your home, karma cleared and promise fulfilled.

    anita

    #427056
    Kiersten
    Participant

    Anita,

     

    my mom has dogs that whimper and bark when I approach her door. My mom will know it’s me and come out even if I just drop it off and leave. She will come out. Secondly my therapist doesn’t want me contacting my mom because it’s not good for me mentally. Thirdly. I am concerned my mom may call police on me if I come on her property because she has called police on me in the past. Is it ok to let it go and not return it if it would endanger my well being? Should I just wait to mail her a replacement when my financial situation improves? I feel I might arrested and go to jail if I go on her property. I can wait until June when my fianancial situation improves because I’m paying installments to stay in a residential mental health program later this year. There are no friends or third parties to contact her or take the tea to her on my behalf.

    #427066
    anita
    Participant

    Dear Kiersten:

    I took in all the information that you provided, and considering it all, there is no doubt in my mind that it is indeed the right thing for you to not contact your mother no matter what, just like doctors and therapist advised you: “My doctors advised me not to speak to her until further notice… my therapist doesn’t want me contacting my mom because it’s not good for me mentally“.

    I’m paying installments to stay in a residential mental health program later this year“-

    – Please do take care of your mental health. A cornerstone of mental health is to have no contact whatsoever with people who are toxic and abusive to you, and with people with active narcissistic and borderline personality disorders (“my toxic mother. She is a narcissist and borderline. She is very emotionally abusive towards me“).

    About green tea, from health line. com: “A 2017 research paper found that drinking green tea may benefit cognition, mood, and brain function… A 2020 study also suggested that green tea is linked with 64% lower chance of cognitive impairment in middle aged and older adults… Summary: Green tea has functional ingredients that may combine to improve brain function and cognitive health”.

    Isn’t it amazing, Kiersten that green tea has the opposite effects on you that your mother does: it benefits cognition; she harms your cognition, it benefits mood; she harms it… green tea benefits brain function (and therefore, it improves mental health) and your mother harms your brain function and therefore, your mental health.

    Keep the green tea, place it perhaps as a decoration in your room/ home, as a symbol of what you should be focusing on: your mental health and doing what takes to promote it and maintain it.

    anita

    #427133
    Kiersten
    Participant

    Dear Anita,

    I have decided to keep the green tea and not return it. I will pray for forgiveness and forgive myself. It seems too risky to put my emotional and financial well being at risk. I will have my therapist act as a third party to communicate with her on my behalf when it is necessary and get myself more help. I must get stable enough to cut her off.  Do you think this is reasonable?

    #427134
    anita
    Participant

    Dear Kiersten:

    Yes, I do think that your thoughts, your attitude and your plan is indeed reasonable. I am positively impressed with you!

    anita

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