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    Nadia
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    I met this really nice man through match about two years ago. Our relationship is, to my surprise, better than what I expected. The problem is, he smells like alcohol most of the time (I have never seen him drunk, if he is, I’ve never noticed), he smokes some weed, and is bipolar but is taking meds, so his mood is pretty stable (wow, as I’m writing this, he seems like a real winner) anyway, I am happy the way things are. We see each other about 5 Days per week and I stay over his place every other week when I don’t have my son. We seem to get along fine until the conversation of marriage came up (I brought it up). He said marriage hadn’t crossed his mind (I guess I didn’t expect that response) needless to say, I was crushed. I feel things haven’t been the same, at least for me. I like my independence, I have a good stable job, but this is really messing with my head. My question is, why do you think I’m feeling this way? Is it just my ego? I was perfectly happy with the way things are (were). I feel I can’t go forward with him, I just feel used and confused! Any advice would be appreciated. Please feel free to ask question.

    #48957
    memm
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    Usually the simplest answer is the correct one; some people treat marriage as a big deal and some don’t. I feel that’s all there is to it.

    Obviously a lot of women are brought up with thoughts of marriage, the marketing for it is everywhere, eventually like with most things you internalise it and decide to make it your own. So now marriage is important to you too! But it all started somewhere.

    It’s quite possible marriage really hasn’t crossed his mind, maybe he doesn’t think about it the same way you do, not necessarily doesn’t see it with you. Only way to find out is to ask what he thinks about it and keep an open mind.

    Then you go from there and decide if it’s so important to you that you want to find somebody else who it’s important to as well, among other factors. It can be painful when we realise some of our core values don’t quite line up with the person we otherwise like but if we were all the same it wouldn’t be very interesting either.

    #48971
    Matt
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    Nadia,

    In contrast to memm’s thoughtful response, consider that marriage is an important aspect of intimacy. Its only symbolic, but means commitment and stability to many people. It is the commitment, not the symbol, that is important. I wonder, much like memm’s alluding, marriage doesn’t mean the same thing to both of you. A few things came to heart as I read your words.

    Consider approaching this situation from both sides. On your side, marriage means commitment and stability. So, when he says “never thought about it” or “no thanks” it might immediately feel like he is not invested, not caring, not in the same place as you emotionally. On his side, there are a couple possibilities. One is that he is not invested in the same way, and you’re right to pull away. The other is that he is already deeply committed, and the symbolism of marriage doesn’t mean the same thing to him. So, even as he dreams of a future with you, its more about the dance and joy than “social institutions” such as marriage.

    Consider that as with most issues in relationships, communication and understanding are key here as well. Talk to him about what marriage means to you, what you dream of in your life and life with him, and what your fears are. Ask him to reveal his side, what he sees, thinks and feels about your relationship. You may find that you two do share the exact same dream, but approach commitment and stability differently. You may find that he isn’t in the same place yet, and why that is… maybe he has some stuff to heal from his past that prevents him from embracing what he has now. Who knows?

    By opening and sharing, you will avoid the “me vs him” split that comes up when there is an unresolved issue such as you experience. The pulling back is normal, the “tainting” of your relationship is usual… there is an evolution you wish to take that he seems to prevent. Grab his hand, kiss his cheek, and see if you can. find a common ground, a vision of mutual fulfillment that leaves you both feeling content and secure. Maybe marriage will make sense to him when he sees it from your side, a fulfillment of longing for a stable home. Maybe you’ll see how deeply in love he is with you, and marriage won’t remain as important. Either way, its between you and your heart, and him and his. Communicating your heart is the most important part, because it helps to dispel the mystery, and either you will grow the relationship in a way that brings joy to both of you, or you’ll recognize the unreconcilable differences in your desires and move on.

    Also, consider that your yearning for commitment is important to honor. As we feel more secure in an intimacy, we open more of ourselves, which allows all of the passion, appreciation, and joy to grow between us. You’re right to insist upon that unfolding for you, as it is a wonder and beauty worth growing. However, its also important to be patient, gentle and curious… because each of us grows at our own pace.

    Namaste, sis, may you find the joy and security you seek.

    With warmth,
    Matt

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