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  • #111393
    Lester
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    Hi my name is Lester. I’m a 24 year old recent college graduate. Currently, I’m really torn between two choices. I recently just got a job and the job is okay. It pays enough for me to afford a place to stay and basic necessities. It’s okay but I’m quickly getting bored every single day. Then, I just received an email to go to Puerto Rico to do some wwoofing experience. I’ve always been interested in agriculture and healthy organic foods. The problem is, this wwoofing experience is only a month long. I just started my job and I would have to quit it to go this experience. I don’t have any savings yet. Logically, what would happen is that after my wwoofing experience in Puerto Rico I would be broke, homeless, and jobless. But my heart is very strongly pulled towards going for this. My heart is telling me every second of the day to go all in and take the risk, something will come up at the end of the month and you’ll be fine. But my rational mind is fighting so hard to give me fear about what my circumstances will be after my wwoofing experience. It’s killing me inside. I really really really want to do it. My entire being is calling me. But it’s irrational and careless. Please, I seek advice on how to get through this.

    Note: I could probably ask to have my job back when I come back but there is no guarantee I can have it back. My position will fill quickly I’m sure.

    #111412
    reena
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    Cant you stay back for some time and collect enough savings and go later? Like you have said its a new job and you don’t have enough savings you could create problems for yourself. some times you have to be practical in your thinking

    #111416
    Inky
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    Hi lgdelacruz92,

    Could you talk to your boss and appeal to his charitable side? Say you really want to go but you also really want your job when you come back. Say you’ll go as an ambassador of the store/company and that you’ll write a press release for him/store/company.

    “Mr. Smith owner of Pet Supplies Inc. is a proud supporter of Agro Farm in Puerto Rico. Lester, an employee of Pet Supplies, goes and brings back sustainable organic food knowledge for Fluffy.”

    Have your boss get some publicity for it!

    Good Luck,

    Inky

    #111420
    anita
    Participant

    Dear Lester:

    In wwoof . net it reads: “WWOOF is a worldwide movement linking volunteers with organic farmers…Many countries have national WWOOF groups. Look in the drop down menu or list below to find where they are – and start your WWOOF adventure. Other countries have hosts – but no national WWOOF group as yet!
    To visit Independent hosts (or enrol as one) in Europe, Asia or Africa please go to WWOOF Independents. A one year membership costs £15 and grants you access to 208 farms in 45 countries.”

    So the wwoof email you received is not a one shot deal, is it? The urge to go there now is fueled by you being bored on the job, is it not?

    I would say, make this decision: to quit my job or continue? Regardless of the email you got about wwoofing. Separate the two issues. Post again, I hope.

    anita

    #111432
    Joe
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    Lester

    I want to share with you a wise quote I recently came across from an actress here in England (can’t for the life of me remember her name, but this quote resonates with me so strongly) – always make sure you have the bus fare home. What I’m trying to say is – if you do decide to go for this incredible opportunity, make sure you have the means to get home and that you have somewhere to go afterwards.

    I agree with Anita – from the sounds of it, there are many WWOOF opportunities and I daresay you should be able to find another opportunity to do something similar in the future. Maybe you could ask the farm in Puerto Rico if you are able to work there further down the line, when you will have some savings behind you?

    It never hurts to have a back-up plan.

    Best of luck in your future endeavours

    Joe

    #111439
    Lester
    Participant

    Dear Anita,

    You are absolutely right. The truth is the job is not okay. I hate it. I feel like I’m wasting every second of my life doing it. I feel like a slave. I work a job that I completely hate, just to make ends meet. The truth is, even if I stay in this job for say, years, I don’t see a way for me to save up. I live in Santa Barbara, California. My 1 bedroom apartment is $1700 a month! I make $2200 a month. Yea it’s pretty bad. I work so hard in college just to live in poverty (in Santa Barbara standards) wasting my life away in a job I hate. You’re right wwoofing seems to be a way out of this misery for me. This is why my heart and soul is telling me to leave.

    Because I don’t have any savings and don’t have an opportunity to save, I was thinking wwoofing would allow me to survive while I find a new job. A new job in Puerto Rico. I’ve always wanted to live in Puerto Rico. It has been my one of my bucket list for as long as I can remember.

    Thank you all for your support. I really appreciate it.

    #111440
    Lester
    Participant

    Like I said, I’m also deep interested in organic farming and love working on farms with nice friendly people.

    #111441
    Lester
    Participant

    I would like to have my own farm one day. Producing organic foods for local businesses and restaurants.

    #111444
    anita
    Participant

    Dear Lester:

    I used to live in Santa Monica and visited Santa Barbara many times. I know about the standard of living there and indeed, it seems hopeless, your salary vs the rent alone.

    In your original post you wrote: ” I recently just got a job and the job is okay. It pays enough for me to afford a place to stay and basic necessities. It’s okay but I’m quickly getting bored every single day.”

    In your more recent post you wrote: ” The truth is the job is not okay. I hate it. I feel like I’m wasting every second of my life doing it. I feel like a slave. I work a job that I completely hate..”

    We do tend to make believe the truth is not as bad as it is, don’t we?

    And then the numerical truth, the income vs the rent is a very exact part of the truth.

    Since living in Puerto Rico has been a lifelong dream and since you’ve always been interested in organic farming and since you hate your job every single day and since you can’t save, given the low income and high expenses (so you are basically, as you mentioned, a slave of some sort), then it does make sense to leave to Puerto Rico.

    Between slavery and a lifelong dream, it is a no brainer.

    anita

    #111448
    Lester
    Participant

    Thank you Anita. I’m just really scared of not knowing what will happen after my trip. But I guess uncertainty of the future is better than certainty of a miserable existence.

    #111458
    anita
    Participant

    Dear Lester:

    Thinking further: if you have two options only: this job you are in now OR Puerto Rico, then it is a no Brainer, Puerto Rico. But let’s see the bigger picture: there is a third option. If this job is only very temporary, necessary at this time to fill in your resume and it is a stepping stone for a better paying, fulfilling job (which it too will look good in your resume and be a stepping stone to a yet better paying and more fulfilling job), then there is this third option. Then you focus on the bigger picture, the long term plan.

    To determine the possibility of the third option, you will need the guidance of a person experienced in your field, in your industry, who knows the ropes and how you move forward toward better pay and better jobs otherwise. You will need the guidance as HOW to do it, how to proceed and succeed. I am not such a person.

    So, my summary: if it is between your current job FOREVER and Puerto Rico, then the latter. If there is a third option that will make use of your formal education and a carefully constructed resume, then the third option would make sense. It would make sense because then you will have a long term plan and you will look at this job not as a-forever curse but as a … well, stepping stone.

    anita

    #111466
    Lester
    Participant

    Dear Anita:

    It’s interesting you say that. I was just thinking earlier today, that the main problem I have now is that I have no breathing room to save money.

    I realized that I’m really itching to go travel and learn from people around the world how to sustain a successful organic farm. But in order to travel, I would need at least a starting saving. After some logistic calculations, I decided that I would need around $5000 to start this adventure. In my current situation though, that is almost impossible to achieve because where I’m located.

    Today, I was actually thinking of other options. This is why it’s interesting to me that you said third option.

    First option, figure out a way to reduce my rent while still maintaining cool head. I certainly don’t want to have to live in my car or live in a tent just to save money. But there are some compromises that I can do. I can live in a 2 bed apartment and share it with someone else reducing my rent couple hundred dollars less. And, I can also let go of my car and just take public transit. I estimate I can save around 400-500 dollars this way. Which will make my goal achievable in about 1 year. Straight forward, and one possible third option. It’s just difficult to stomach the fact that I would have stay in my job for 1 whole year. I’m scared that I’ll get fired for my lack of enthusiasm doing it. But, it is a way to achieve my goal so I’m willing to make the sacrifices. Haha, it’s a little far fetch but I imagine myself being a bitter person when I finally achieve my goal and there would be no point traveling because I just hate the world and everyone. Managing stress level for a while will be my challenge here.

    Second option, I was thinking of moving to a cheaper place in United States. A place where I can actually save money so I can fund my adventure. I have friends I can stay with for a few weeks until I get a job. I was thinking Michigan (I have a really good friend there): where people with full time minimum wage jobs can live an okay lifestyle. I believe I have the skills to get a job above a minimum wage. I just hope I can get a job I can stick to long enough to meet my goal. This option makes more sense to me. I’m confident I can get a job there. At least something better than what I have now. A job that will allow me to live okay and some level of happiness while still making progress towards my goal. In holland, Michigan, my friend is sharing a 2 bedroom apartment with someone and he is only paying 300 dollars. With that kind of rent, even minimum wage workers can save a little. I’ve been in the city and it’s not any smaller than Santa Barbara. It’s amazing and beautiful out there. The only real sacrifice that I will have to make with this option is hustling my ass off to find a job. But once I find one, I think I will be okay with this.

    Then, I can travel (first stop is Puerto Rico). Learn the skills I want. And, when I’m ready, build the farm I’ve always dreamed of.

    #111468
    anita
    Participant

    Dear Lester:

    I like your thinking. So you are pretty clear about what you want and what you need: you do want to travel, first stop being Puerto Rico. You need $5000 to do so. Your passion and dream is to build a farm.

    I like moving to Chicago and paying something like $300 rent there, getting a job there. You hate your current job, so there can only be improvement on the job you find in Michigan- unless it is a back breaking job (watch your health and physical safety above all!)

    It doesn’t make sense to try to save money in Santa Barbara. In a two bedroom apt you will only save a couple of hundreds dollars a month and… you hate the job. Doing a job you hate is really bad for your health and you will pay the price over time. Better quit this job, move out to Michigan/ elsewhere where the rent is low and a job is possible. I think it is a good idea.

    anita

    #111469
    anita
    Participant

    * technical problems with the posting. Lost your post of about 22 minutes ago (it showed here but disappeared) as well as my most recent reply. But both show in the Activity page. I copied my reply from there:

    Dear Lester:

    I like your thinking. So you are pretty clear about what you want and what you need: you do want to travel, first stop being Puerto Rico. You need $5000 to do so. Your passion and dream is to build a farm.

    I like moving to Chicago and paying something like $300 rent there, getting a job there. You hate your current job, so there can only be improvement on the job you find in Michigan- unless it is a back breaking job (watch your health and physical safety above all!)

    It doesn’t make sense to try to save money in Santa Barbara. In a two bedroom apt you will only save a couple of hundreds dollars a month and… you hate the job. Doing a job you hate is really bad for your health and you will pay the price over time. Better quit this job, move out to Michigan/ elsewhere where the rent is low and a job is possible. I think

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