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December 11, 2017 at 5:09 pm #181651SebastiaanParticipant
Hello all!
This is my first post so i hope i do it all well and sorry if you can’t understand well, english isnt my first language. First i would like to introduce myself a little to give you a little bit of background information. So as you might see from my profile my name is Sebastiaan, by now i’m 21 years old dutch guy. I had a pretty bad youth, i always thought my dad loved me even though he beat me up a lot.He never showed me love. I also always felt my parents loved my sister more and gave her more attention. My parents didn’t have the best marriage either. My dad cheated on my mom 2 times and by now they are divorced. The first time i was 12 and the second time was last year, which led to the divorce. because of this past i think i got a few problems.
Now onto my situation. Right now i am in a relationship and i love a girl a lot. She is the first girl i ever have a relationship with. I have never kissed/had a relationship or had sex and sometimes that makes me a little insecure because i want her to enjoy a real relationship. We are in a long distance relationship but will be close really soon for a long time (8 months). before that time i will go to her country (which is a 11 hours flight) and meet her for the first time on the 22th of december. Ofcourse this brings a lot of doubts and insecurities and nervous feeling but i will go through that for us, because i want to get old with her. By now we are 4 months in a relationship and have been in contact for around 8-9 months. In the relationship there are actually quiet a few arguments, but we solve it in a respectful and mature way. She is the girl who makes me feel comfortable and i can really tell her everything. She is really pretty and i am really attracted to her. She is a loyal girl and we can’t wait to be together. When i arrive in her country i booked a hotel for us two so we can enjoy each other presence the whole time. I always say to her she is everything i look for in a partner. When we can we try to call and sometimes video call when she feels comfortable with it.
I hope by now i informed you enough with my current situation. If you need to know more for some good advice please ask me.
So now you might be thinking:”nothing wrong right?” Well i wish that was true. Back in 2013 (yes you are right 4 years ago) i met a girl online who i started to love so much. I felt so much chemistry with her and she always made me laugh. But there were also a lot of downsides. She loved to go out and didn’t have a lot of time for me. But when she did have it was intense. With time i started to love her more and more but i was too shy to tell her. So i kept hanging on enjoying her presence. But after a while i heard from her friends that she had a new boyfriend. I thought she loved me too but apparantly not. So (as the immature kid i was) i sended her a last goodbye message and told her how much i loved her and that i wish her all the best etc etc. I dont even know if the rumours were true. We just had chemistry but not much else. Just she made me laugh and understood me because we went through the same thing. but we didn’t have the same values. After that time i still thought a lot about her and fell into a depression again. I didn’t have motivation to do anything and i just hide my feelings. So i think right there it stopped. I stopped having contact with her even though i tried so much after a year or so. I always hoped she would come back and maybe matured a little more. She never contacted me again even though she maybe read them. I felt so guilty for her since i knew i hurted her so much by leaving. So at the end of 2016 i contacted her and told her the whole situation. She said she moved on and it was the past. I also saw she had a new boyfriend so i just wished her all the good and said to her i hope she will be happy in the relationship and that the guy wont treat her like i did. I thought i could finally start processing my loss. I cried a lot during that time, almost every lonely night i thought back about what me and her could have been. She felt like a soulmate to me. So i thought it was over, but a few months ago i made the decision to go to the country which both girls are from. and my current girlfriend said she could not be there everyday but at the end she will be. Ah well, so i searched for some friends of that country to hang out with. To my suprise i found the girl i met in 2013. I saw she was still happy with her current boyfriend. She said she missed me and that i hurted her so much by leaving and that she doesn’t want me to ever leave again. So right now we are kind of friends, i contact her maybe once every 2-3 weeks and that’s it. I feel the chemistry is still there but she feels a bit weird so i dont want to disturb her too much and just focus on my current girlfriend.
The problem is here i keep reminiscing about the past even though i have a perfect, amazing and beautiful girlfriend now. How can i get past this and just focus on her? I dont want to lose my current girlfriend over something stupid which i did in the past.
Sorry if the message is too long, i hope you understand all well and like i said ask me if you have any questions.
December 11, 2017 at 6:49 pm #181673KatieParticipantI have been in a situation similar to this where I met a new amazing guy but was stuck up on someone I used to love. I didn’t really get over the old guy until the new guy found out and threatened to leave. How would your new girlfriend feel if she saw that you still had feelings for your ex? She is the one who is with you, she is the one who is there. Your ex has new boyfriends and isn’t there. Your ex isn’t worth any of your attention, believe me. You say you want to get old with her and she is a good loyal girl, cherish her. She is the one who is there. I guess it is natural to still have feelings for past lovers but please do not let it get in the way of your new relationship and your happiness. I don’t know if there is any specific thing you can do to get over your ex, maybe block her, but for now all I can tell you is to take my words of advice. Also, your english is very good.
December 12, 2017 at 7:11 am #181735AnonymousGuestDear Sebastiaan:
I don’t know if I understood correctly: you wrote that you plan on meeting your current girlfriend for the first time in ten days, Dec 22, correct? Later you wrote that a few months ago you planned on visiting the country where your current and ex girlfriend live, 11 hours flight away, and your current girlfriend said she will not have much time to spend with you.
Does this mean that a few months ago you did visit that country, and met your current girlfriend and the other young woman?
anita
December 12, 2017 at 7:37 am #181745SebastiaanParticipantSorry, i meant to say i will meet my current girlfriend on the 22th of december, which is the 11 hour flight. I just meant to say with the same country that both girls have the same nationality which is korean. My current girlfriend first said she did not have much time to spend with me, but later she said she could for the 22th meeting. I never met the other young women and this will be the first time i will visit korea.
December 12, 2017 at 8:59 am #181757AnonymousGuestDear Sebastiaan:
So you already purchased a ticket to Korea leaving Dec 22. Once there you will be staying with your current girlfriend in a hotel for the entire visit there? The visit is for how long?
After the visit, as I understand, you intend to go back to Korea for 8 months? How long after the visit would that be and what do you intend to do in Korea for 8 months?
anita
December 12, 2017 at 9:14 am #181761TherlieParticipantHi Sebastiaan,
I am also Dutch AND I have had a similar situation where I had a relationship for 3,5 years with someone I met online while I actually was still heartbroken. I think Im in a perfect position to give some advice. So I fell in love with a guy I met on holiday and it was magical, love at first sight etc. However, this guy did not want a long-distance relationship and broke all contact. Then I met a guy online who made me think a lot about the guy that broke my heart. I also felt the chemistry and after months of messaging he came to visit me in Holland. Then we officially got in a relationship. However, even though I liked this ”new” guy very very much, the old one was still in my heart. However, I accepted the feeling that I loved someone else, and I have always trusted that if its meant to be, it will be. I have been in a relationships with the new guy for 3,5 (now we broke up), and I have enjoyed every single moment with him. Sometimes I thought of the old guy, but trust me if you are together with your new girl, the feeling will fade away slowly and you will be able to accept it. Just keep in mind that -especially with love- Whats meant for you, will always be yours. I succeeded in having a great realtionship for 3,5 years with someone I loved, now that we broke up, I realised he is not the person I want to marry, but hey, I still had a great time and wouldnt want to have missed a second. So my advice: go for the new girl, accept your feelings for the old girl and just give it go, see how it goes… if it won’t work, it won’t work, don’t force anything! Good luck!
December 12, 2017 at 9:59 am #181767SebastiaanParticipantYes Anita, i will be staying with my current girlfriend for the full visit which is a week. I booked a hotel for me and my current girlfriend so we can get to know each other better with this first meeting and just enjoy each others presence.
After the visit, actually she will come to Holland. Since this would be our first meeting if i didnt go to korea i wanted to book the trip on the 22th which i did. A first meeting for 8 months would be a little too much and risky for me, since we dont know how we will be doing when close. When she is there she will study english and dutch language, so she can communicate better with me and has a future in foreign countries. In the meantime i will study korean with her. We just want to be close and i also was not really behind this plan at first, but i really wanna meet her for a long time and act like a close couple. If the first meeting won’t work out i dont know what i will do. I guess it depends on her and how it goes.
Therlie, thanks for your advise, i truly appreciate it :).
December 12, 2017 at 10:17 am #181773AnonymousGuestDear Sebastiaan:
It makes sense to have a week first meeting than an eight month first meeting. I hope it goes well for the two of you in that initial meeting. I suppose the two of you will have a better idea regarding your future following this coming visit.
I figure she knows of your inexperience, which you shared about in your original post. It will help you to know that she knows it is, and I hope she is understanding and that her expectations are congruent with this reality.
Be as honest, non pretentious as you can be, making the visit real, and you will be okay.
Regarding the other woman, she will not be part of your week visit, and so, if I was you, I wouldn’t communicate with her before or during this one week visit. Instead, focus on your upcoming visit. Focus on being true to yourself first, best you can, and do post again, anytime.
anita
December 12, 2017 at 10:37 am #181777SebastiaanParticipantThe other woman indeed won’t be part in the trip.
Yes my current girlfriend knows of my inexperience. I can really share all with her and while i do that i feel so comfortable with her. I just want to focus on her and kind of forget the other woman. Me and the other woman had a great time but it’s the past, although she can still make me laugh and can maybe just be my friend in the long run. Me and her don’t have the same life values so i don’t think i would be happy if me and her worked out back in 2013. Right now im happy with my current girlfriend and i want to fully focus on her. I see a future in her and me and i hope all will work out in that first meeting on the 22th!
December 12, 2017 at 11:10 am #181779AnonymousGuestDear Sebastiaan:
I hope it works out for the two of you as well.
It is okay, by the way, for a man to feel affection, attraction and/ or desire for two women at any one time, or for three. It is not wrong or unnatural. As a matter of fact, if you look at nature, it is quite… natural. As humans we have the privilege of being able to make thoughtful choices. But the feelings, we can’t help what we feel. We don’t choose our feelings, and where there is no choice, there is no moral right or wrong.
It is what we thoughtfully choose to do that has such value.
And so, I hope you don’t try to not think of the other woman, or to not feel for the other woman. Let whatever you think and feel be what it is. Then thoughtfully choose. You are responsible only to what you choose, not to what you think and feel.
anita
December 12, 2017 at 11:27 am #181785SebastiaanParticipantI feel way more for my current girlfriend and like i said i want it to work out with her and get old with her. She is everything the other woman never was and i’m glad everything went this way. It’s right that i still feel attraction towards the other woman aswell, but i would never want a relationship with her. It just feels good because me and her went through so much and i craved for her so much that i have trouble forgetting her now. My current girlfriend is so much better for me than the other woman, since she shares the same values. Don’t get me wrong, i feel so much and i think even more attraction and desire to be with my current girlfriend. The other woman was a big part of my life but honestly was not really good to me. She liked doing parties, drugs, alcohol and was never there for me. The current girlfriend doesn’t like anything of these things which is more like me. Also, we are always there for each other and really can’t wait to finally meet, unlike the other woman.
December 12, 2017 at 12:34 pm #181813AnonymousGuestDear Sebastiaan:
I understand. You feel strongly about your current girlfriend and the two of you share similar values, unlike you and your ex girlfriend who was not there for you.
It is wise to choose a girlfriend/ life partner who shares your values and who is there for you in life.
Are you worried about that old craving you had for your ex girlfriend, worried to be carried away by your feelings… or are you bothered by guilt about your past communication online with your ex girlfriend while in contact with your current girlfriend?
I will soon be away from the computer for about sixteen hours. Hope to read from you when I return.
anita
December 12, 2017 at 1:01 pm #181823SebastiaanParticipantIm worried i won’t be able to fully focus on my current girlfriend. I want to just focus on her and only love her. Maybe it will help when i finally meet my current girlfriend. Then i think i will have a lot less doubt. The first meeting in a long distance relationship always brings a bit of doubt/nervous and insecure feeling but its worth it for her :).
Thanks Anita so far!
December 13, 2017 at 5:55 am #181893AnonymousGuestDear Sebastiaan:
I understand that you want to “be able to fully focus on (your) current girlfriend… to just focus on her and only love her”- but better you don’t expect that, to be able to do this that you want so badly.
I can’t order my brain to fully focus on this or that, no one can. Sometimes it happens that we do focus on one thing exclusively, but not when we anxiously order our brain to do so. The brain, when anxious, will go where we don’t want it to go.
So better, expect that your brain will wonder to where you don’t want it to wonder, and when it does, don’t get alarmed. It is natural for your brain to wonder, as all brains wonder.
Another focus in my reply to you this morning: you started your thread with a bit of a background of your childhood, your father beating you up a lot, both parents attending more to your sister than to you, your father cheating on your mother twice, the second time leading to their divorce. A childhood like this, being beaten a lot by itself, is damaging to a child, it injures a child. When you become an adult, being 21, those injuries do not disappear into the past. They are still there, in the brain. existing and activated in the forms of anxiety, depression, unjustified guilt, etc.
You will be taking this past to Korea, to this relationship, and to every new day in your life. The more aware you are of your past, of the injuries inflicted on you, the more you heal, the better you will be able to function. Be very gentle with yourself.
Your anxiety was probably caused by being beaten by your father. You feeling unjustified guilt may be related to your father cheating on your mother, you wanting to be unlike him. And so, maybe you feel like thinking about the other girl means you are cheating (it is not!)
Let me know your thoughts and feelings about this reply and I will write again, if you’d like.
anita
December 13, 2017 at 10:49 am #181969SebastiaanParticipantThanks Anita for your response, i really appreciate it.
Thats right, i feel these days its a lot better and i just feel excited to meet my current girlfriend. With the first meeting there also comes a bit of doubt ofcourse, will she look way different than in the picture which will maybe lead to less attraction or will we fit when we are close. I tend to not think too much about those things and just focus on the good things.
yeah i especially wanted to share my childhood because i dont think it’s the most normal childhood there is. I always feel like i want to be everything my dad never was for me and i tell this to my girlfriend too. She knows all and i can share all with her while feeling comfortable. The childhood and first relationship ever which is also a ldr makes it kind of hard and with a lot of doubts. But i love my girlfriend and want to get old with her like i told before. The last memory i have of my dad is sitting on a couch on the opposite side with my mom and my sister. He made them cry and i had to kick him out of the house and beaten him up for everything he did to me in the past. When i got old enough i have always beaten him to pay him back. I know it’s not right but i was still a kid, what could i do?
So in short i know i will always take the past with me and the thinking about the other girl is way better now by sharing these stories. Now i’m just a little worried about the meeting and if we will be right for each other when close, but i guess i will only find out when i meet her. The only thing i can do is hope and pray that it will be allright. I want to be the best boyfriend to her.
Thanks Anita for all the responses, i really appreciate it.
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