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May 24, 2019 at 9:43 pm #295627JadeParticipant
You’re absolutely right about that. I try to set boundaries but if somebody crosses though I must just let it go and just try harder myself.
I’m working on anxiety and worry. I started this whilst I was still with my ex and I believe alot of the worry I had was from that relationship. I told the therapist this, but I feel since the break up I’ve just generated more worries. I always have something to worry or moan about. I have ALOT of negative thoughts about myself, so my therapist is aware that that is something that needs work too, and alot of body image issues. I try and use my weight and my looks as a method of control I think. If I lose this much weight I’ll be happy. If I look this way I’ll find a happy relationship. Which I’m aware is completely unhealthy.
The thing is, I’m completely aware of all of these issues I have , and I try and explore the root causes myself and like I have been here with you. But what good is that going to do? I’m not sure how its going to change me. I feel completely broken and every relationship I have that fails just reinforces the fact that I think I’m not good enough so I become more and more broken and unable to form healthy relationships.
Jade
May 25, 2019 at 6:34 am #295635AnonymousGuestDear Jade:
I am posting to you today because I am not sure that you noticed my second post to you, on page 1. It may very well be that you read it and chose to ignore it. I suppose if you don’t address me next, it will be clear enough for me and I hope you continue your interactions with other members.
anita
May 26, 2019 at 7:57 am #295749JadeParticipantHi Anita
I’m sorry, I didn’t see that you replied. Thank you for taking the time to do so.
I cant remember the exact comment but it was a passing comment about an ex boyfriend or a reference to them and he said he didnt want me talking about other men. The arguments were usually because I stood up to him or disagreed with things that he said and his opinions. One arguement we had was because he’d hacked into my Facebook account and seen that I’d been talking to another man about sex a year ago and read the whole conversation. He went absolutely mental and stormed over and started grabbing all of his things and saying I was disgusting. He actually brought this up again the other day when I was in contact with him. I decided at that point in time, which was about 6 weeks into our relationship that I wouldn’t be treated that way and ended the relationship. But he came back crying and persuaded me to stay with him. I knew at that time I deserved better but I got sucked into it.
You’re absolutely right, I like to think I’m strong and know what I want and put on a front and try to convince myself that I’m tough. But deep down I’m not and I obviously dont know what I deserve or I wouldn’t put up with this treatment
Jade
May 26, 2019 at 9:15 am #295767AnonymousGuestDear Jade:
You wrote earlier: “I know I probably have a lot of deep seated issues. I think that’s pretty evident as I struggle to develop and maintain relationships sometimes, but I really don’t know where to start looking!”-
-I can suggest to you a place to start looking, here in what you shared: “My mum worked a lot whilst I was little and I can remember always wanting her attention but never being able to get it… But I don’t blame her for this. I’ve come to terms with it as I’ve got older“-
– Clearly you didn’t come to term with it when you were younger until you came to term with it, somewhat, when you got older.
“I’ve been on antidepressants since I was 18. I’m now 31”- a very limited coming to term with it so far.
“I feel that she was always looking for love from other people instead of getting it from me. But I don’t blame her for this”- maybe you don’t blame her now, but you blamed her before, otherwise it wouldn’t occur to you to… not blame her.
I am suggesting that you felt angry at your mother for looking for love elsewhere, for not seeing that right there in front of her was a little girl that loved her more than anything and anyone in the whole wide world.
When you are in relationships with men, your anger plays some role, your anger at your mother.
“I am generally attracted more to men that are generally harder to get or have a hard exterior. I think when I see their vulnerable side it makes it rewarding for me.. so for example my ex hardly smiled but when he did it completely lit me up and I knew it was genuine”-
– your mother may not have had a hard exterior with the men in her life, the many men in her life, moving in with them perhaps, relocating so to be with this man or that man (“My mum also had a lot of relationships and we moved a lot because of this”), but she had a hard exterior for you, not seeing how desperately you wanted her attention, how intensely you loved her.
When you see a man’s vulnerable side with you, in his personal interaction with you, it may be like your mother finally seeing you, her rough exterior with you finally breaking down. It is exhilarating!
I wonder in what ways you try to break down their exterior, if it is by crying a lot, as in the case of the relationship you mentioned, or if it is by telling a man about your previous boyfriends (the comment you made to your former boyfriend on the way to visit his family), so to cause him to get jealous and break down. I don’t know. What do you think?
anita
May 26, 2019 at 9:35 am #295773JadeParticipantAnita
I think most of what you say is right. I was angry for a long time at my mum until I grew up and understood how hard it must have been for her.
I don’t think I was trying to make him jealous with the comment, but I expect I probably have been guilty of trying to make him jealous at points before. The way I try and keep men is that I try too hard I think. I’m too nice, and too caring and do too much for them. I know I’m doing it though I just cant seem to stop.
I asked mark this question too, but I’m wondering how understanding the reasons that I do things is going to help me? Because to be honest its just starting me make me feel more and more like everything is my fault because I’m so messed up
Jade
May 26, 2019 at 9:43 am #295777AnonymousGuestDear Jade:
“its just starting me make me feel more and more like everything is my fault because I’m so messed up”-
– well, I was very messed up and I used to think that I was the only one messed up and therefore, that everything was my fault. What I learned is that millions and millions of people are messed up, maybe most people. So anytime you have a relationship with a man, there is a good possibility that he is messed up too.
Take responsibility only to your messed up part, not to other people’s mess. Because you have issues, using your words, it doesn’t mean the man doesn’t have issues. If you didn’t have issues, you still couldn’t have good relationship with many men because of their issues.
If this makes sense to you, maybe you would be okay with working on your issues. There is no shame in having issues. We don’t create our issues out of nowhere, choosing to have issues. We are handed those issues mostly in childhood, having no choice in the matter.
If you want, only if you want and for as long as you want, you are welcome to examine those issues here with me.
* I will soon be away from the computer for a while.
anita
May 26, 2019 at 10:08 am #295791JadeParticipantAnita
Thank you so much for understanding. I’ve spent most of my life feeling ashamed and embarrassed about having this emotional baggage. I feel as if it’s a weakness and for most of my 20s I think I just tried to hide it and say I say i was fine when I really wasn’t
May 26, 2019 at 11:46 am #295819AnonymousGuestDear Jade:
I too was ashamed of my issues, my emotional baggage, my problems, very much so. It took me a long time to understand that my shame wasn’t valid, that my problems were consequences of being severely injured, emotionally. It is similar to this: a person gets stabbed, a victim of violence, and bleeds as a result, then feels ashamed for bleeding, thinking something like: what is wrong with me? I am bleeding!
See my point?
anita
May 26, 2019 at 3:47 pm #295859MarkParticipantJade,
I believe in if we understand the underlying core of our behaviors then that gives us the opportunity to be more aware of them so that we can make conscious rather than automatic/unconscious decisions.
This is practicing mindfulness.
Make sense?
Mark
May 29, 2019 at 7:07 am #296221JadeParticipantI just wanted to say thank you to everyone that has taken the time to advise me and to reply. I really am overwhelmed with the responses that I’ve had. I’m going to try and be more mindful..I still have alot of guilt and shame towards myself for allowing this relationship to happen but I’m going to try and work on it. I’ve downloaded the Aura app, has anyone tried it?
Jade
May 29, 2019 at 7:33 am #296227AnonymousGuestDear Jade:
You are welcome. I don’t know anything about an Aura app. If and when you want to continue the conversation in this thread, once you are not overwhelmed, please do.
anita
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