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March 15, 2018 at 3:27 pm #197503GrumpyToadParticipant
Hi everyone,
I’m brand new here so I’m not 100% sure how it all works, hopefully I can get some help and insight
I hope you can help me, this is in regards to my husband being fairly close friends with a female at his work. And this is something I struggle with because even though I’ve never been cheated on and he’s never given me any indication of being unfaithful (he knows how I feel about cheating and I would leave right away) it’s still a worry for me. He really is wonderful and I know I’m so lucky to have him and I feel horrible for even feeling this way, but I can’t help it, ans I’ve tried! It all started when he started his new job then decided to invite this girl to our wedding after knowing her for only a few months. Even though I expressed that I wasn’t comfortable with it, she was invited anyway. I was scared of having another conversation with him because I’m terrified of confrontation. Ever since then I’ve felt angry with him, and disrespected, and I hate that he brings her up in conversation and that he tells her things that I believe are quite personal. There’s no talking on the phone or frequent texting, but even things like him asking if she wants coffee in the morning gets to me. We’ve been married for almost a year and a half now but this jealousy is now something that runs my life. I get mad when he mentions her, I feel like he’s gotten close to her emotionally and I can’t deal with it. I do trust him, but I also have these feelings. I’m scared to talk to him about it because I don’t think it will end well, and I desperately want my jealousy and obsession stop as it has seeped in to other aspects of my life and certainly to our marriage from my point of view. I’ve been this was for almost 2 years! Please help!
March 15, 2018 at 3:49 pm #197517GrumpyToadParticipantMe again, I just wanted to add to my post. Regarding the wedding invite, I had quickly said it’s okay to invite her even though I didn’t mean it, because again, I was scared of the confrontation. Had I not been, I may not be where I am today. Just had to add that, thanks again tinybuddah community!
March 16, 2018 at 1:51 am #197559abubinParticipantBeing a married couple, you need to communicate with him if you do not feel happy with him getting too close to this girl. I am sure he will say it is nothing and that they are just friends. However, you need to explain to him about your uncontrollable jealousy. It’s because you love him a lot. Since you have already tried and you are still jealous, perhaps tell him not to mention this girl in front of you? Since there is nothing going on with him and her, just let whatever happen in office stays in office. You don’t need to know if he made coffee for her.
You just need to know that he love you and will never cheat on you.
March 16, 2018 at 6:45 am #197607GrumpyToadParticipantThank you and thank you for the suggestion. When it was first brought up he had already said all those things, yet I can’t shake it! The fact that he’s open with telling me things I know is a good sign because then there’s nothing that’s being hidden. But you make a great point about what happens in the office is just that. Thank you!!
March 16, 2018 at 7:40 am #197615AnonymousGuestDear GrumpyToad:
As you learned, being terrified of confrontation, and as a result, not being assertive hurts you. Got to slowly incorporate assertiveness into your behavior with your husband and with everyone else in your life. How to do it when scared?
See to it that in your relationship with your husband there is no aggression, that no matter how distressed either one of you, you do not act aggressively toward each other: no yelling, no name calling, no put downs, not directly not indirectly, and instead, make your relationship a safe place for the two of you.
In such safety, once you get used to it and trust in it, behaving assertively will not be scary anymore.
I am glad you added that you told him that you are okay with inviting her to your wedding. Before you added that, I thought it was disrespectful of him to invite her even though you (stated, I thought) that you were uncomfortable with her there.
I would ask him to not talk about her to me, if I was you, so to be safe from being triggered this way.
anita
March 16, 2018 at 7:46 am #197619GrumpyToadParticipantHi Anita,
Thank you for your response and suggestions, I thought it was important to state that I had said okay, even though I knew as I was saying it that it wasn’t, you’re right it was to avoid conformation and it definitely has hurt me in the end.
Some of our fights are okay, others can result in getting loud or defensive or both of us feeling like we’re not being heard by the other person which I know is something we both need to work on.
Thanks again for your insight 🙂
March 16, 2018 at 7:53 am #197623AnonymousGuestDear GrumpyToad:
You are welcome. A lot of people think it is natural for a couple to fight, an unavoidable reality in any relationship. But it is not true. It is not necessary to fight. It is possible to not fight, ever. Resolve conflicts without fighting, there are ways of doing that.
anita
March 16, 2018 at 8:10 am #197629GrumpyToadParticipantI agree, I believe that it should be a discussion, not an argument because when it gets intense, no one is benefiting. I’m definitely trying, but it takes two and it takes time!
March 16, 2018 at 8:37 am #197637AnonymousGuestDear GrumpyToad:
Yes, it does take two to argue and it takes two to have a respectful discussion, instead of arguing. Did you already suggest to him to not argue, to not fight and if so, what was his response?
anita
March 16, 2018 at 8:53 am #197643GrumpyToadParticipantI do, he gets wired up pretty quickly in my opinion and escalates it, I’m not completely innocent in it either as I can get loud as well, but I am the one to always say we need to talk about it and try to listen to each other. But it’s hard because he shuts down, and when I tell him he is, he doesn’t respond well to it. That’s what makes me scared because he may just walk away even though I’ve said time and time again that you can’t do that. That’s why if I talk to him about it, I’m not sure if the understanding will be there, and I know that it will also come off as distrust. The last time we had a conversation surrounding this (which was with the wedding invite) he said, well if it’s jealousy that’s a whole new conversation we need to have, and I was scared. He tells me of thier interactions, so I know while he doesn’t tell me everything, he’s not trying to hide the fact that they’re friends. A lot of it is fear of what will happen if I do bring it up again.
March 16, 2018 at 8:59 am #197633JasParticipantSome thoughts on this as the female friend in many scenarios in male-dominated fields.
Have you tried befriending this person? Would you feel comfortable doing that? As someone who is around men most of the time, I have found myself wanting good girlfriends to hang out with. Some women around my work tend to be catty and very competitive. I’ve learned to reach out to those who seem to want friends. It makes a huge difference for them and for me. Even though I do meet men here and there that I click with, aside from our decidedly unromantic shared interests, everything else is professional.
I am straight and I do date. Having said that, I prefer to date people who have nothing to do with my work, aren’t fans, and have lives and interests of their own.
You may not realize this, but I hear a lot of great things about you from your partners. My first thought is usually, “I’d like to meet this person!” not “Y’all think you have solid relationship? Hold mah beer!”
March 16, 2018 at 9:22 am #197657AnonymousGuestDear GrumpyToad:
He feels distress, he shuts down. Couple counseling, if of quality, can help with that, a whole lot. If he is interested, that is.
You wrote that you are afraid of what will happen if you bring up your jealousy again: what do you think might happen… what do you think he meant before the wedding when he said “that’s a whole new conversation we need to have”?
anita
March 16, 2018 at 9:36 am #197663GrumpyToadParticipantI feel like it may be too early for counselling but I have thought of it before to be honest with you.
I don’t believe that anything drastic will happen, I don’t think we’ll split up or anything like that. My worry is that it will become a huge explosive argument and that he won’t understand that it’s just who I am, not that I don’t trust him even though I understand how jealousy can be mistaken as distrust. And he sees her everyday, so every time he talks to her, he’d think about our conversation and will likely not talk about her or think twice about it, which I feel isn’t good communication between him and I. If that makes sense?
March 16, 2018 at 9:55 am #197669AnonymousGuestDear GrumpyToad:
It makes sense to me that you are afraid of “a huge explosive argument”. I think everyone is afraid of aggression, I am. So it makes sense, when you anticipate aggression, you withdraw from what may bring it about. You are afraid of the consequences of such argument, making him less comfortable to let you know of his thoughts, cautious.
Here is your best bet, I believe, to communicate with him on the matter, best bet to not trigger his distress and either withdrawal (shutting down) or anger. If you let him know in a calm voice that it bothers you that he talks to you about her, that it triggers your distress and ask him if he can help you by not talking to you about it, he may feel empathy for you and would like to help you this way.
You can tell him that if you do something that triggers his distress, that you would like him to let you know, and then, if it is reasonable and doable, you will accommodate him too.
You can ask him if he thinks it is reasonable that he accommodates you this way: not talking about her to you, if it is possible and doable for him.
If you don’t blame him for what you feel, express no anger toward him and no strong emotions of any kind, on the matter, keep calm, you are most likely to be heard by him and accommodated.
What do you think?
anita
March 16, 2018 at 10:47 am #197695MarkParticipantGrumpy Toad,
It sounds like both of you do not know how to communicate. You are afraid of conflict and he/you get defensive, walks away. Not a good formula for a long lasting, intimate/close relationship.
Find a counselor to teach both of you how to communicate. You say it is too early. I say that if either of you did not know how to deal with concerns and differences before the marriage then it is not too early. Non-Violent Communication is a great tool (you can Google it) for communication.
Plus you are not setting boundaries on what you do and do not want, e.g. having him share personal information with his office girlfriend (and yes I am using that term deliberately). Whether it is a sexual affair or not, it really sounds like an emotional affair.
Mark
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