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July 2, 2025 at 10:12 am #447267
Peter
ParticipantThis is something new for me. Posting a Meditation – Contemplation which isn’t intended as a path even as it is ‘structured’ as a practice.
It is a attempt to integrate my thoughts on works from Campbell, Camus, Krishnamurti Gurdjieff and others where I sense a symmetry of mysticism and radical clarity mirroring each other in their invitation to: Remain awake. Do not cling. Allow tension to teach you and truth to reveal itself.
Lately, I’ve been exploring a quiet but persistent tension within myself while engaging with the truth that ‘what we do the earth and each other, we do to ourselves’? The pull between detachment and engagement, between Yes and No to Life as it is. (common theme to my posts)
There’s a Zen paradox that captures this: “The Bodhisattva has no attachment to life or death, and yet vows to save all beings.”
Like all paradox, this seeming paradox doesn’t offer resolution. Instead, it invites us into a deeper question, one I think Anita has been courageously exploring in ‘How to Live a Worthwhile Life’ A question I might rephrase as: How do we remain present in the fire that is Life without being consumed?
I don’t feel we are meant to resolve the tension between detachment and engagement. The thought is that we are meant to inhabit this space, consciously as a dynamic field of presence.
This is not about choosing between action and stillness, self and other, rebellion and surrender. It is about learning the art of being that is woven by both, perhaps a experience of a soulfully integrated consciousness. One that sees clearly the absurd tension of being alive in a world while feeling separate from it and refusing neat answers or cosmic insurance.
Such consciousness I feel could lean into the tension and love anyway, acts anyway, let’s go anyway. A Middle Path that is not of compromise, but of wholeness. A way that does not seek balance or escape but becomes the instrument on which tension ‘plays its music’. Not seeking to silence the tension, but to let it sing through us.
July 2, 2025 at 10:26 am #447269Peter
ParticipantFollowing is the meditative or contemplative “practice” that honors both the structural insight and the radical, unconditioned seeing
The intention is to:
– Hold tension without escaping into belief or passivity
– Involve rhythm and interruption (Law of Seven – rythem )
– Engage the triadic forces (Law of Three – Active, Passive, Reconcile)
– Remain choicelessly aware
– Allow insight to arise from direct contact with the realStage 1: Affirming – Conscious Attention (5–7 min)
“I am here.”
• Sit upright. Eyes gently open or closed.
• Become deeply aware of your body, breath, sounds, sensations.
• Don’t seek to change anything. Just affirm the fact of being.
• Let attention embrace the total field of experience.
Think of this as the Active Force: presence, attention, existence.Stage 2: Denying – Letting Go of Control (5–7 min)
“Let it be.”
• Begin to notice impulses to control: to fix posture, judge thoughts, “do it right.”
• Each time such a thought arises, see it clearly, and let it pass.
• Now attend to what is not happening: the quiet, the spaces, the inner silence.
• Release the will, without becoming passive.This is the Passive Force: receptivity, surrender, stillness.
Stage 3: Reconciling – Holding the Tension (10–15 min)
“Yes and No arise together.”
• Sit now in the full paradox: I act, but I do not force. I see, but I do not grasp.
• Feel the tension of opposites: the absurd, the ecological grief, the Yes/No of your life.
• Don’t solve it. Let it burn gently in the awareness.
• Remain as a mirror, not fixing, not escaping.This is the Reconciling Force: consciousness itself. Insight may arise—but you don’t seek it
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🔔 Conscious Shock (Built-In):
– At 7 and 14 minutes, sound a bell or chime (or use a gentle timer).
– This mimics the “shock” in the Law of Seven: to awaken you from drifting.
– When the bell rings, ask silently:“Am I here? Who is here?”
This conscious jolt returns you to the moment—not as a judgment, but a refreshing of attention.
Integration (Final 3–5 min)
“What remains?”
– Open your eyes (if closed).
– Let yourself feel whatever remains, not what you think should be there.
– No analysis. No conclusion. Just the afterglow of being fully present, of having held paradox without collapsing into certainty.This is intended as a “practice” of listening to the “music” between Yes and No, between self and world, between rhythm and silence. A place where structure meets silence, where law not mistaken as love meets freedom. A practice that is not done but lived.
July 2, 2025 at 12:21 pm #447270anita
ParticipantDear Peter:
“The pull between detachment and engagement, between Yes and No to Life as it is. (common theme to my posts)… How do we remain present in the fire that is Life without being consumed?… Not seeking to silence the tension, but to let it sing through us.”-
These words struck something deep in me. They made me wonder:
How do we stay present with emotion—without clinging to it, numbing ourselves, or rushing to fix it? How do we let difficult feelings sing through us… instead of scream “Danger! Danger!” at every turn?
My earliest memory of fear came when I was five or six. It was the middle of the night, and I heard my mother scream at my father that she was going to kill herself. Then she left—into the dark. I believed her. I didn’t yet have the tools to understand whether it was a threat or a certainty.
What was objectively dangerous was the possibility of her death. But the fear of that danger became my constant companion. That fear grew too big to hold, too loud to hear clearly, so I did what many do—I tried to detach from it, numb it, or fix it. And I carried that habit with me for decades.
What I’m trying to say is: for some of us, especially when we’re young and vulnerable, emotion itself—especially fear—becomes what we fear. It becomes the danger. When it starts too early and lasts too long, we internalize that fear as something unbearable. And we spend our lives trying to outrun it.
Your words made me wonder whether you’ve ever written anything on July 2nd (I have a thing for numbers). I found a post from July 3, 2018:
“I was very shy and fearful growing up.”-
Like me, you were a fearful child. And from what I’ve lived, we don’t simply outgrow fear—we learn to dress it differently. Sometimes in intellectual clothing. Sometimes in silence.
Also, while scrolling through your posts, I noticed you’re a couple years younger than me 🙂
Back to that same post, you wrote: “The anxiety we feel is of our own making and all of it based on illusion.”-
I understand the illusion piece. But sometimes, the origin of anxiety isn’t illusion—especially when it’s rooted in real moments that overwhelmed a young nervous system. The loss of a parent—whether through abandonment, threat, or emotional absence—is biologically coded as dangerous. A child can’t be expected to sort imagined threat from actual danger.
You also wrote back then: “Every moment… every breath every moment a reincarnation.”- That line made me pause. I may not be able to kill the old fear, but maybe I can live beside it. Maybe I can make peace with it.
Your meditative practice offered a structure I want to try—not to silence the fear, but to witness it. Maybe I’ll meditate on it and let it sing rather than scream. I’d love to share what comes up here in your thread, if that’s okay with you. And if not, I completely understand—I’ll find space for it elsewhere.
I wonder, too: have you named your own fear—the one born in your own childhood? Might it help to let that voice be heard?
And before I close: congratulations on doing something new. Sharing a practice like this is a beautiful step forward—not just as a writer, but as someone living through the tension, rather than standing outside it.
Warmly, Anita 🤍
July 2, 2025 at 2:53 pm #447282Peter
ParticipantHi Anita I appreciate the questions as they mirror my thoughts.
There were a few questions so I’ll start with this one and maybe the others will fade: How do we stay present with emotion—without clinging to it, numbing ourselves, or rushing to fix it? How do we let difficult feelings sing through us… instead of scream “Danger! Danger!” at every turn?
If I have read what you wrote correctly the danger sensed is arising from past experiences (now memory) and is not immediate. If that is not the case and the danger immediate what I write of would not apply. The meditation is intended for the second half of life and the dangers of the past dealt with even if handled badly and their remains a wish of ‘if only’ it wasn’t so.
The thought of the mirror of the moment was to stay in the tension of such questions without intention other then holding it.
Emotional mindfulness reminds us that Emotions are not problems to solved but energies to witness. Here we sit in tension between the witness and our conditioned mind, our habit of categorizing and creating constructs. Observing the tension between the Yes and the No the space between witness and mind may dissolve and a something else arise. Here the observer is the observed and the thought the thinker – a mirror choicelessly aware.
When we don’t intervene with our habitual sorting and fixing, we open ourselves to a different mode of relating to the thoughts and feelings that arise. We do so with curiosity and space not judgment or measure. A space for something new to arise.
It is a difference of being present to an emotion holding space and being present in the emotion as identification with the feeling. Holding the tension, you will notice both. Staying in the tension honors the complexity of our experiences, resisting the urge to resolve or soothe our discomfort the tension becomes a teacher rather than a puzzle to be solve.
“Let difficult feelings sing through us” is a poetic call to metabolize emotion through presence. Where a scream cries out emergency the mind reacts to act and fix. A song, even a sad one, is expression and invitation to stillness in movement, resonance and maybe healing.
The notion I am playing with here is that of being a Mirror to the Moment and allowing what will arise and be seen. A mirror does not choose what appears nor try to fix what it reflects or claim ownership of what is seen.
To resolve the tension a third ‘force’ is required only the force isn’t action., nor can it be it be willed. It can only be allowed which the constructing ego mind is going to resist, thinking action must be a doing certainly not a being. This force is not a push but a rhythm, not will but a welcome. This to is a holding of tension.
The ego equates agency with control, believing doing is superior to being and allowing ia weakness. But this “third” isn’t passive, it’s radically alive, quietly dynamic, and spacious enough to hold contradiction without collapse. To the ego, it feels like “nothing is happening.” But to the deeper self, it’s everything. Presence without grasping. It’s the alchemical vessel where transformation happens because it is not forced…even as the fire heats the contents. (another tension to hold)
The past, the minds constructs, the fears remain, these experiences reside in the tension we hold. The Yes and the No, the like and not like. The meditation a kind of spiritual aikido, meeting the moment not with resistance but with yielding presence. Holding tensions not as weakness, but strength. A willingness to live the mystery, not to master it.
To be a mirror is to surrender authorship. To allow the third is to become a space through which life speaks. To embody this is to dance with the ineffable, not by leading, but by listening.
I seem to have used a lot of words which I fear may be misread as an attempt at understanding and understanding control and create a process to follow…
I can’t deny understanding hasn’t been the driving force of my youth, my ego and hope. A hope that if I understood I would no longer fear and no longer feel lost or alone. I would instead be in control and safe… That has proven to be a fool’s game and one I played badly.
I acknowledge the tension in that and holding the tension sense the rhythm of movement between a No ‘not this anymore’ and a Yes ‘I am still here’, listening.
I see I have named a fear – to be misunderstood. Within that fear a paradox that its ok to feel the pull for understanding and the tension that the point isn’t to not understand but to no longer demand the understanding protect me… I have named other fears, to be lost and alone… the tension of feeling separate from the world I know I’m not separate from.
I may still scream… just not in desperation… a holy scream.
Not a scream of “save me!”, but the scream “I am here!”
Not desperation, but declaration. Not collapse, but liberation.
Not trying to flee the fire but becoming the flame…This too is part of the alchemy: Letting the voice rise, not to demand an answer, but to announce presence. Letting emotion move, not to control, but to release. Letting the scream sound, not to be rescued, but to be real.
So, scream. If it comes, let it come. Not as a symptom but as a signal that you are alive, unhidden, and unwilling to mute what is most vital. Even the soul needs a sound sometimes. Let it be wild. Let it be true. Let it be yours. The sound and mirror of AUM.
July 2, 2025 at 9:32 pm #447286anita
ParticipantDear Peter:
“I may still scream… just not in desperation… a holy scream. Not a scream of ‘save me!’, but the scream ‘I am here!’ Not desperation, but declaration. Not collapse, but liberation. Not trying to flee the fire but becoming the flame.”-
I’m in awe of these words—they’re so powerful. My scream has long been “save me!” Oh, how much trouble that cry has brought me.
I was desperate. For a long, long… long time.
But now—not fleeing the fire but becoming the flame—this is what’s beginning to take place within me. I’m open to more of it. More of becoming the flame.
I’ll be back in the morning to continue the conversation. Looking forward to it.
And thank you, Peter.
Warmly, Anita 🤍
July 2, 2025 at 9:49 pm #447287anita
ParticipantAnd the way you ended your post: “So, scream. If it comes, let it come. Not as a symptom but as a signal that you are alive, unhidden, and unwilling to mute what is most vital. Even the soul needs a sound sometimes. Let it be wild. Let it be true. Let it be yours. The sound and mirror of AUM.”-
I never read anything more meaningful, more personal, more… These are your words, spoken to me, for me…(This is making me emotional).
No, NO, out of the parenthesis- A scream: thank you for being here with me!
Anita
July 2, 2025 at 10:11 pm #447289anita
ParticipantYour post, Peter, is so meaningful to me, so special, it’s difficult for me to put it to rest till the morrow.
You wrote, “I see I have named a fear – to be misunderstood… I have named other fears, to be lost and alone… the tension of feeling separate from the world I know I’m not separate from.”-
A lost and alone boy, misunderstood (your shyness misunderstood as being conceited, I remember from what you shared July 3, 2018). I get a glimpse of how it was for you, way back then.
And I feel honored that you shared this with me.
Anita
July 2, 2025 at 10:54 pm #447290anita
Participant“No analysis. No conclusion. Just the afterglow of being fully present, of having held paradox without collapsing into certainty.”-
Relaxing into Uncertainty.
No longer trying to (like you say, Peter)- measure, label, name.. fix.
There’s freedom in it, a lightening of the weight.
I take air in, relax. Nothing to do. No one to convince. No one to impress.
Nothing to fix, nothing to figure out, nothing to do.
Nothing but to be.
From analysis to no-lysis.
Just be. Sh.. time to rest. Let go of the tension…
Nothing to run after, nothing to run away from.
Surrender- not to any one person, not to any ideology, any one politics- but to the timeless reality of something out there, something within, independent of all that mattered so much before.
A transcending.
Anita
July 2, 2025 at 11:35 pm #447291anita
Participant“A hope that if I understood I would no longer fear and no longer feel lost or alone. I would instead be in control and safe… That has proven to be a fool’s game and one I played badly.”-
Yes, ditto!
You’ve been talking here, peter, in these forums, since May 27, 2016, and yet- it’s like I am hearing you for the first time this very night, July 2, 2025, 11:30 pm.
How can we not-be-seen, not-be-heard, even though we’ve been showing, expressing.. how..
No-lysis.
In the core of it is Peter-the-boy, Anita-the-girl.. making a human, spiritual (the beyond-kind) connection.
I hope this is not too much.. Too Much for you, Peter?
Anita (last post of the night, 11:35 pm)
July 3, 2025 at 8:33 am #447309Peter
ParticipantHi Anita
To be candid my posts of late have surprised me with the call to ‘scream’ seeming coming from nowhere and resonating deeply. Holding the tension of one’s paradoxes with no other intention nothing is fixed, the old fears remain but a something else arose. Holding the fear and the clarity of the No and the Yes something else emerged, a something that was not constructed but revealed. The blank canvas, always blank, painting itself. This is how the soul speaks, not in formulas, in emergence, in surprise. The scream not from despair but from truth.
Leaving me to wonder that perhaps healing isn’t the disappearance of wounds but the weaving of those wounds into wholeness. Healing not always making the pain go away but can make it sacred. The wound does not always close, but perhaps it no longer needs to. Perhaps it opens into a space where mystery lives. Where sorrow and beauty are not two things, where a scream isn’t failure but a song.
I note that the Buddha (nor any of the wisdom traditions when not misunderstood) promises that a ‘way’ will fix life, that healing will fix life. The Dharma doesn’t promise that life will stop hurting. It offers a way to relate to that hurt with spaciousness, awareness, compassion. Not as answers but as mirrors.
Each moment met openly reflecting the very thing we most need to see. The wind doesn’t fix you it reflects your resistance, a mountain doesn’t’ offer solutions, it reveals your stillness, wisdom teachings don’t change you, they return you to yourself.
In the past I have approached the wisdom traditions as pathway to fixing instead of allowing. Today I see the teachings as mirrors to reflect the Self back to me. Nature a mirror, teachings a mirror, each of us a mirror… The mirror not an object but a state of being.
So let the mirror reflect, let our screams sound, let healing arrive not as a fix but as a flowering in the soil of unguarded presence. Life is not broken, we are not broken, we are an unfolding.
This feels like a place to pause, contemplate if only to avoid the temptation to cling to what arises or mistaking a path as destination.
I hope everyone enjoys the weekend.Into the gone, into the gone, into the gone beyond. Into the gone completely beyond, the other shore awaken.
Into the gone, into the gone, into the gone beyond. Into the gone completely beyond, the other shore return…July 3, 2025 at 11:10 am #447313anita
ParticipantDear Peter:
Thank you for naming this pause. It feels right—like breathing room around something sacred. There’s been so much shared, and I agree: it’s important not to grab onto it or try to turn it into something fixed. What came through feels meaningful just as it is.
I’m glad we’ve had this space to reflect, and I’m grateful for what you offered—it was real, deep, and full of life.
I’ll let the echo settle for now. No need to finish anything, no need to hold on. Just a quiet appreciation for what unfolded.
Wishing you a peaceful weekend.
Warmly, Anita 🤍
July 3, 2025 at 2:55 pm #447320Alessa
ParticipantHi Everyone
Thank you both for exploring such a thoughtful topic.
I’m trying to gather my thoughts because there are many.
To confront intense emotions, in my experience takes a level of practice and developing a feeling of safety in understanding that these things pass.
The difficulty for me was getting lost in it. Consumed by it. I learned that I needed to take a step back and develop control.
I still have difficulties, just as anyone else. But I see that I’m a simple creature and science has figured out plenty of ways to help. There is a drive to learn and to overcome.
I would have to say that both things exist in a balance. Emotions are not the whole, there is a lot more to a person. Perhaps the desire to fix isn’t a flaw. It is just a part of the natural balance. It just is. Much as the same as emotion. Sometimes it can help, sometimes it can hurt. As with anything.
Emotion, in itself not the problem. The thoughts, the feelings the expectations attached to it.
It is true, there is no fix. There is just balance. Acceptance, learning to live. The sense of wholeness, not being just one element (emotion) is nice.
I’ve learned that expectations are a problem for me. I am naive and hopeful. I don’t expect for things to change and am surprised when they do. I blame myself when I don’t understand the cause, which is just the way the world works. Lack of understanding. The antidote is learning.
July 3, 2025 at 3:01 pm #447321Alessa
ParticipantFor a long time I felt like I had to fix my trauma. Let go of the past. Stop all of that pain and hurt. Stop those flashbacks.
Then I learned more recently from a Buddhist text. I don’t even remember what it was. That is just how the mind works. It is expected for these things to happen and the goal is to live alongside it.
Sorry for rambling ❤️
July 3, 2025 at 8:53 pm #447323anita
ParticipantDear Alessa:
Thank you for sharing so openly. Your words carry such quiet strength and honesty—I felt them.
What you said about getting lost in intense emotion really resonated with me. That feeling of being consumed, of not knowing where the emotion ends and where you begin… I know that space. And I also know how powerful it is to take that first step back—to begin building safety, even if it’s just a little at a time.
I loved what you said here: “Emotion, in itself, is not the problem. The thoughts, the feelings, the expectations attached to it.” That’s such a clear and compassionate truth. It reminds me that emotion isn’t the enemy—it’s the stories we attach to it that can make it feel unbearable.
And your reflection on expectations—how being hopeful and surprised by change can lead to self-blame—that touched me. There’s something so human in that. I think many of us carry that quiet ache of “I should have known” when really, we were just doing our best with the understanding we had.
The idea of living alongside the pain instead of trying to erase it—that feels like a kind of wisdom that only comes through experience. It’s not resignation—it’s grace.
Thank you again for your presence here. You didn’t ramble at all. You shared something real, and I’m grateful for it. ❤️
Warmly, Anita 🤍
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