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  • #442891
    Dafne
    Participant

    Dear Anita,

    Thank you for your fast reply! I understand completely and please don’t force yourself to reply tonight. The rest can wait till tomorrow and he was so merciless leaving me without any word for those past days…he can wait too…

    So I won’t say anything right and reply tomorrow as I might say the wrong thing to him…

    Have a peaceful evening 💕

    Talk to you tomorrow Anita 🤗

    #442892
    anita
    Participant

    Thank you, Dafne. I’ll be back to you tomorrow.

    anita

    #442909
    anita
    Participant

    Dear Dafne:

    “And now the spider is back!”- you say it as if it’s a good thing 🫢 What feels good isn’t always what’s best for you.

    “I feel relieved that he replied and I can have some answers”- what answers and to what questions?

    “I am neither a dreamer, nor a liar, nor irresponsible”, said the 🕷️ to the 🪰.

    “He said some nice words about the beauty of a family life”, as he pointed to his 🕸️ (spider web).

    “Is it wise to continue texting him without him unblocking me on the other media?”- the phone is one entry point to his 🕸️. Unblocking you on the other media would be like unblocking a second entrance into his 🕸️.

    “What do you think of this whole situation now Anita?”- I think that he is dealing with a very low self-esteem and have created a fictional Asian project involving millions of dollars to feel better about himself. In this context, questioning him about the project is like pulling the carpet from under his feet, which is not fair to him (the reason I recommended that you no longer question him about the project).

    On the other hand, he wants your money, all the money that you have and can get through loans and whatnot. He’s been trying to lure you into his web of deceit with hopes and promises of a shared home and life with you.

    How to move forward? Through empathy for him (no longer questioning him), and empathy for yourself, prioritizing your well-being.

    Notice this, in the latest exchange with him yesterday, he said: “family life is the most beautiful”- he told you earlier that his parents passed away, were cremated and that (if I understand correctly) he does not know where their ashes are. He also told you that he has no siblings and that he has little to no contact with cousins, none of them whom you met. So, seems to me that the words “family life is the most beautiful” do not indicate his persona experience and are meant to lure you into his web of deceit.

    He also said: “I regret that you did not meet my friend… my partner… But I introduced you to other friends who are jealous, they did not even call me for New Year’s Day”- given that you never met his alleged project- related friend and partner, and that the two friends you did meet are not really friends… then, altogether, he has no friends and no family, at least not any with whom he has contact, or positive relationships.. so, what does it tell you, Dafne?

    anita

    #442916
    Dafne
    Participant

    Dear Anita,

    You’re right Anita. What feels good isn’t always what’s best for us. It felt good to receive the message as I did not want to stop all the contact without having a closure. I always want to make the things right on my part (not just with him but with all my interractions with people). And especially with people I care about.

    When I said that I wanted my answers, I meant that I wanted to know why he got so upset that day and if I really caused him some distress, I did not want to end it on that negative note.

    He unblocked me on the other media today and said that he felt a lot of pain last week and prays for the peace and joy again. Can you believe that Anita?

    Him: “Hi Dafne, yes with time and meditation peace comes back, with confidence too 🙏🌅🫂”

    Him: “I wrote to you on WhatsApp, I hope peace returns, but I was in too much pain last week, 🙏

    Me: “Hi, we all were in pain last week…my mother as well 🫂 I pray for harmony & joy in our hearts 🙏”

    Him: “I am aware that we have all had pain, I felt like I was a liar or a dreamer which is not the case, I hope that we find peace and trust between us, I would like to introduce you soon to the people with whom I work.”

    Him: “in relation to my work last Tuesday it was very important, and it is working, I will show you the writings 😀 how was your day?

    Me: “the day was a bit hard. I feel tired…”

    Him: “there is still flu at this time…take care to rest. I hope we’ll be in good health.”

    So now Anita it all seems back to normal…

    He expressed his feelings and wants to carry on but somehow I don’t feel like it anymore. The trust is gone and the fear to be blocked again creeps in like the fog.

    And I know that I can’t trust the spider again as he already showed his true colors last week.

    I’m not questioning about his project anymore and just said that I feel tired now. I don’t feel the same like before.

    Would you continue replying to his messages? What if he suggests a meeting?

    It is true Anita that he doesn’t have many friends. I asked why before. He told me that had many before but only if there was a good time but once he needed something or real life came, all friends disappeared or were not that helpful. So he prefers to have 1 or 2 friends but of quality. But it looks like he gets offended very easily without really discussing things in a calm manner…

    Anita, I think that my self esteem is based on my belief that I am less because I do not have the family I always dreamed of. And my lack of ability to choose the romantic partner for life? And also to quickly recognise the spider and say no! 🙂

    I don’t know how you got so strong and overcame those feelings of being not enough? I feel really proud of you 🤗 I was working on myself as much as I could so I don’t feel like a victim all the time. But no strategy that I’ve tried is working.

    What else can I do for my self-care? And for my self confidence despite what has happened in my childhood?

    And now there is you who helps me in a gentle, yet assertive way to not fall too deep down ❤️ Thank you again Anita…

    I feel there is not enough thank you for what you’re doing for me 🙏

    Hope to hear from you soon…

    Have a beautiful day Anita 🌞

    #442917
    anita
    Participant

    Dear Dafne:

    As usual, I will reply further tomorrow, but for now: I wish I could make you believe what I know to be true: that (like I said before), you are a beautiful soul who deserves the best in life.

    anita

    #442921
    Dafne
    Participant

    Dear Anita,

    Thank you for saying that again and believing in me 💖 I’m an old soul, maybe too old school for this modern world. Maybe the values we hold are invisible or not appreciated anymore by many men or people in general.

    Maybe that was another reason why this man got my attention. He seemed to want the same life as me, presenting similar values. But now you’re helping me to see that it all might be just a spider web 🕷🕸

    For me you are a beautiful soul too with lots of love, understanding and compassion.

    Enjoy your evening Anita
    Talk to you tomorrow 🙏

    #442923
    anita
    Participant

    Dear Dafne:

    You are welcome and thank you for your kind words and appreciation. I will still need the morning to reply more attentively, but for now, in regard to: “Would you continue replying to his messages? What if he suggests a meeting?”-

    – I would end my association with any 🕷 and, in doing so, stay away from their 🕸. However, I understand that he has been a distraction from the troubles at home, and you’ve had hopes associated with him. Therefore, ending contact with him, especially if he suggests a meeting, is easier said than done, so no judgment coming from me.

    My hope though is that you come across a decent man- however imperfect- who will be good for you. Back to you in the morning 💖

    anita

    #442938
    Dafne
    Participant

    Dear Anita,

    Thank you for your understanding. Yes, I wish that I can spot the spider very quickly and avoid their web as soon as possible without any emotional damage. I’m glad you are here to guide me with that 💝

    I can see that he keeps writing messages to me now and is contemplating to meet me very soon. All the smiley emoticons are back too…

    Internally, like you said Anita, it is not easy for me to move on from him right now. But I really hope that one day I will be able to escape from that emotional prison and feel free and happy with a decent, honest and humble human.

    Thank you Anita for your constant presence. I enjoy talking to you and I wish that this suffering will stop soon. And that one day I can come back with good news and something positive to say 😊

    Have a lovely morning & talk to you soon 🙏

    #442940
    anita
    Participant

    Dear Dafne:

    It’s perfectly normal to want closure and to make things right with the people you care about. However, seeking closure with a spider can lead you to getting stuck in its web.

    The fact that he blocked you and then unblocked you, only to express his pain is manipulative. He’s trying to regain your trust without addressing the real issues at hand.

    He didn’t apologize for blocking you, placed his pain on center stage (“Him: “I was in too much pain last week”) and kicked your pain off the stage, dismissing it (“Me: ‘Hi, we all were in pain last week…Him: I am aware that we have all had pain'”).

    He is self-centered and manipulative, and your feelings of distrust and fear of being blocked again are valid.

    Regarding his lack of friends, it might be a reflection of his behavior and how he handles relationships. Self-centered people who get offended easily and don’t discuss things honestly and calmly can’t maintain healthy friendships.

    I’m proud of you for recognizing the impact of your past on your self-esteem and romantic choices. It’s a significant step towards healing and growth. Here are some suggestions for self-care and building self-confidence:

    Set healthy boundaries in all your relationships, Practice self-compassion (be kind and forgiving to yourself), Engage in activities you enjoy, Talk to a therapist or perhaps join support groups (in addition to this thread), and Remind yourself of your strengths and accomplishments.

    “I’m an old soul, maybe too old school for this modern world… Maybe that was another reason why this man got my attention. He seemed to want the same life as me, presenting similar values. But now you’re helping me to see that it all might be just a spider web 🕷🕸”-

    – I’m glad that I could help you see through his facade and recognize the spider web 🕷🕸 he’s been weaving. Your values and principles are important, and they will resonate with the right people who truly appreciate and respect them.

    You have the strength to overcome these challenges, and it’s okay to take time to focus on yourself, and thank you for your kind words, Dafne 🙏. I’m here to support you in any way I can. 🌞

    anita

    #442944
    anita
    Participant

    Dear Dafne:

    (I didn’t see your most recent post until after I submitted the above). Thank you for your kind words. I’m glad to be here to support you through this challenging time 💝.

    It’s understandable that moving on from him is not easy, especially when he continues to reach out and use familiar emoticons. It’s important to listen to your instincts and trust your feelings of distrust. Recognizing the need to protect yourself is a crucial step.

    Your hope for a future free from this emotional prison, where you can find happiness with a decent, honest, and humble person, is a beautiful goal. Remember that you deserve to be with someone who truly values and respects you.

    Your strength and self-awareness are inspiring. Continue to focus on your well-being and take things one step at a time. I’m confident that with time and self-care, you’ll find the peace and happiness you seek.

    Thank you for sharing your journey with me. I’m here for you, and I’m looking forward to hearing your good news and positive updates in the future 😊.

    Have a lovely morning & talk to you soon.

    anita

    #442958
    Dafne
    Participant

    Dear Anita,

    Thank you so much for both of your messages. You adressed everything in such a compassionate and loving way that it really touched me so deep ❤️

    I really don’t know where I would be if not you taking care of me. It felt like you were holding my hand while I was going through the storm of emotions. So my thank you is just a very little I can do for you now 🤗

    I still need to navigate the life at home so that another bad brake down doesn’t lead me to the dark path again…

    I know now that you’re here so it should be different this time…

    I’ll also try to apply all the advice you gave me regarding the self care and boundaries. I really struggle to do that at the moment. But now I know that someone in this world cares about me and that I can give this life another chance 🙂

    And I’ll keep my eyes open regarding the spider 🕷 probably once he realises that nothing is the same anymore and that he can’t treat me like that again…he’ll give up & try to catch another fly 🪰

    Thank you for being with me on this journey Anita
    💕
    And I hope that we both find inner peace and happiness despite missing out on being loved and appreciated in the past ✨️

    Big big hug 🤗 to you and once again thank you for all you’ve done for me! ❤️

    Have a good evening and take a good care of yourself!

    #442959
    anita
    Participant

    Dear Dafne:

    Thank you so much for your heartfelt message. I’m truly touched by your kind words and gratitude ❤️.

    I’m glad that my support has helped you navigate through the storm of emotions. Remember, you’re stronger than you realize, and I’m here to guide you every step of the way 🤗.

    Navigating life at home can be challenging, but I believe in your ability to apply the self-care and boundaries we discussed. It’s not easy, but knowing that someone cares about you can make a world of difference. You deserve to give life another chance and find happiness.

    Stay vigilant with the “spider” and trust that you’re strong enough to protect yourself from being mistreated again. Once he realizes that he can’t manipulate you anymore, he’ll likely move on.

    Thank you for being on this journey with me. I also hope we both find inner peace and happiness despite the past. Your strength and resilience are inspiring, and I’m here for you always.

    Big big hug 🤗 to you too! Take care of yourself and have a wonderful evening.

    anita

    #442965
    Dafne
    Participant

    Dear Anita,

    I’m happy to read your message and thank you again for your encouragement 🤗

    I’m locking all the beautiful advice & your kind
    words in my heart.

    Have a lovely day & I’m hoping to come back one day with some great news 💕

    Take care! xxxx

    #442969
    anita
    Participant

    Dear Dafne:

    You have a beautiful way with words—so poetic and heartfelt. I enjoy reading your messages.

    You are always welcome to come back any day, whether you have good news or not-so-good news to share. I really appreciate you and will miss you if you don’t come back soon.

    Take care of yourself, have a lovely day, and I’m looking forward to reading from you again, no matter what.

    Warm regards and a big hug 💕

    anita

    #443032
    Dafne
    Participant

    Dear Anita,

    Thank you so much for your kind words of appreciation and making me feel so welcome 😊

    I did not send you my original, short message as I wanted to add a little update.

    He keeps writing about the project and I’m trying to avoid asking him too much. But he keeps pushing. He wants to convince me that it is not just a dream. He told me that if I promise not to share his business plan with anyone else, he will send it to me. I said ‘ok, if you trust me, send it to me and I won’t share the sensitive details’.

    But once I said ok, he said that he will show it to me on his tablet (instead of sending) as there are some numbers and salaries included. So he wants future with me but hides information? Why did he ask me in the first place? 😆

    He said that it is better to meet one of the people he is working with to make me believe him more.

    You were right again, seems like it all goes in circles…

    Now, he really wants to meet me and show me the plan. I think out of courtesy, I could meet one time and if he tries making any future plans again or romantic gestures, I could simply say that after his disappearance last week, I feel that I need some time…and that we could continue but only on a friendly note?

    Is that a good idea Anita? Would you say something else instead?

    To be honest, I’m trying to distance myself as much as I can but somehow he doesn’t let me. He just doesn’t give up easily…now the relief of unblocking me turns into a frustration…

    I don’t know how to establish the emotional distance anymore…

    What would you suggest Anita?

    I hope you are well & could find some time to rest more.

    Have a good weekend!
    Warm hugs and talk to you soon 🫂🤗

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