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  • #352442
    Anonymous
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    Hi there. So I’ve never turned to any type of forum for advice before but I feel like I’m stuck in this awful rut I can’t get out. So can someone be unlucky in love? Because I feel like I am. A year ago I met a guy and we really hit it off however as soon as things got serious he had to go overseas to play cricket. My heart was sad but I got over it, since I’ve always been someone who believes that everything happens for a reason.

    However, this belief of mine has been shaken and I’ve lost all hope. I’ve been dating this incredible man for 3 months and it was so great, we were so happy and he was everything I envisioned my dream man to be and I thought to myself – FINALLY I’ve gotten it right. We were great up until this pandemic. He struggles with depression and as lockdown increased so did his depression. He was not the same person I fell for, he was not affectionate and we argued about it. However, I tried so hard to be supportive, I even read articles about how to deal with depression effectively. Last night he phoned me and ended things. He told me that he’s not in the right mental space to give me what I deserve. Which I understand but I’m so angry and upset at god or the universe. Why did this happen? I feel we deserved a chance, and I just wanted to support him but he said I gave him anxiety. We spoke about me being there for him as a friend so that he doesn’t feel pressured but we’ve given eachother space now for a bit because I am heartbroken – I didn’t expect this.

    Please any form of advice would be appreciated, I haven’t told anyone yet because I’m embarrassed that I can’t keep a relationship when I thought he was the one. I’m only 21 years old but I feel I deserve a relationship and chance at love too?Thank you!

    #352514
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Cass:

    “can someone be unlucky in love?” luck has something to do  with a lot of things, but our choices in most contexts are much more powerful than luck.

    “I’ve always been someone who believes that everything happens for a reason… this belief of mine has been shaken and I lost all hope….I’m so angry and upset at god or the universe. Why did this happen?”- I don’t believe that everything happens for a reason, that there is a god that concerns itself with each one of the billions of people on earth, that creates situations and outcomes in the lives of so many, so to lead them a certain way, “for a reason”. Lots of what happen is random (luck) and lots of what happens is a result of choices made by people.

    If you reject this belief that there is a higher power (who is not doing well by you) and adopt a new belief: that you can make your life better by your own choices, then you will have hope again.

    Let’s take the man who recently broke up with you: “He struggles with depression, and as lockdown increased so did his depression.. he was not affectionate and we argued about it”- you complained to him about him not being affectionate- that’s a choice you made. Many of our choices are impulsive, carried on without thinking beforehand, but still these are choices. If you chose to not complain to him, and then to not argue with him over it, you could have had a better outcome.

    “I just wanted to support him but he said I gave him anxiety”- anxiety is underneath depression. When a person feels too anxious for too long, the brain collapses, exhausted, into depression.

    “I feel I deserve a relationship and chance at love too?”- yes you do, and love is very possible for you, it will be up to a combination of luck (which you can do nothing about) and making thoughtful choices on your part.

    Feel free to respond to my post to you, we can further communicate on the topic.

    anita

    #352534
    Valora
    Participant

    Hi Cass,

    I’m sort of the opposite of Anita here. I don’t believe in luck and do believe everything happens for a reason and that there is a higher power.

    I think when bad or undesirable things happen to us, it’s just providing a lesson that we need to learn. Sometimes those lessons are really, really painful, but if you learn the lesson when these things happen and grow from it, they’re not likely to repeat. You seem to be putting blame on yourself here where it isn’t due, like this happened because you’re not lucky in love or did something wrong, but really the reason doesn’t seem to be anything to do with you… it’s that this man is depressed. When people fall into a state of depression, especially when they’re in new relationships, the relationship is often the first thing to go… even in long-term relationships. There comes a point where they just don’t want to deal with anything else at all because they’re having a hard enough time dealing with themselves so they just cut everything else loose. Or they hate the way their life is so they suddenly need to change EVERYTHING and they “throw the baby out with the bath water.” In this case, he probably knows he wasn’t living up to the standard that he should be as your boyfriend (the standard he would set for himself) and it was putting pressure on him… not that you were putting pressure on him but he was putting it on himself and that was creating more anxiety in him… one more thing he was worrying about.

    Would it have been better not to argue about his change in affection? Maybe, but you didn’t know that at the time, and even if you hadn’t argued, it wouldn’t have guaranteed a different outcome. He may have cut the relationship off anyway because one side effect of depression is not feeling anything at all (which is often why there is a loss of affection) and, weirdly, that can be accompanied by an increase in anxiety because they know there’s something wrong but they can’t fix it and have no desire to fix it.

    With that said, I wouldn’t write this relationship off quite yet. It’s possible that once the pandemic has calmed down and everyone can get back to their routines, he may call you up and want to try again. Before you get back with him though, I would make sure that he has something in place to help him when he feels depressed again, such as a therapist, so that he doesn’t try to push you away again later on.  And if you do get back together, you will know now that when he starts to act different or is less affectionate, it’s a sign he needs help… not from you (because you can’t be his therapist, even if you WERE a therapist, they advise them to not provide therapy to loved ones) but from a therapist or perhaps medication from a doctor. This was a good learning experience for you, and that, in my opinion, is the whole point of these bad things that happen.

    So no, I don’t think you’re unlucky in love. You’re just still learning and maybe haven’t met your match yet (or you both need to grow before you can be together if this guy is your match). A loss of a relationship doesn’t say anything about you as long as you were caring, loving, and respectful for the most part in that relationship, which it sounds like you were. Sometimes the end of a relationship is about what the other person might be dealing with. Sometimes it’s just that you aren’t compatible with each other for one reason or another. There are lots of reasons, so it’s important that you don’t put any measure of your self-worth into that and try not to be embarrassed. All relationships end at some point.

    #352628
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Hi Anita and Valora,

    Thank you for the responses. Valora, most of what you have said is exactly what he said to me, thank you for the explanation as I am still learning about depression. This pressure to be a good boyfriend to me, he was putting on himself because I made myself drop any expectations of him when he told me he was depressed. The reason we argued was not that I complained of lack of affection as he told me he was feeling numb, it was small things I would say that would trigger him and remind him that he is not where he used to be – which I most definitely did not do intentionally. We argued over the misinterpreted tone of voice in text and when I would ask him to facetime as we always did, if he wasn’t able he would take it out on me.

    Thank you for giving me a bit of hope, yesterday I wrote that post in a complete state. When he told me that he doesn’t have the emotional capacity for a relationship he still told me that he never wanted this but he needs to do this now for his anxiety and that he still adores me. Thankfully he is taking all the steps to heal as he is seeing a psychologist. We’ve decided to give each other some space to heal and he said to me we’ll talk when he’s ready, and the same goes for me.

    Thank you for the reassurance and help, I really appreciate it as I have been beating myself up about it.

    #352654
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Cass:

    My new thoughts as I re-read your original post:

    1. “I’ve been dating this incredible man for 3 months… He was not the same person I fell for”- it’s too soon, within 3 months, to know who he was before, and who he became later. I figure you fell in love with some things about him that you liked, but you couldn’t have gotten to know him thoroughly so quickly.

    2. You are only 21- too early and too little experience in romantic relationships to form a conclusion that you are “‘Unlucky’ in love”.

    3. It takes two emotionally healthy individuals to form a healthy love relationship. You may be emotionally healthy, but there are so many depressed and severely distressed people in the world (before and after the pandemic), that statistically, it is hard to come by a mentally healthy person.

    4. I just read Valora’s May 1 post to you- excellent analysis and advice on her part, thorough and balanced, wow!

    5. Think of a future love relationship (with this man or with someone you are yet to meet) as a Win-Win deal. It has to be a win for both parties. The goal is that each party to the relationship is part of the Solution for the other, not part of the Problem.

    You help him, he helps you.

    Let’s say you are back with this guy, take the time to get to know him better. Not from articles and books but directly from him. Find out his goals in the context of a love relationship and share your own, see if there is a fit. Talk about anything and everything.

    When you see him depressed and withdrawn- give him alone time, let him be. Come back to him at a later time. Alone, he has the chance to recover from his latest low, but if you choose to talk to him when he is most low and withdrawn/ numb/ not responsive- he is likely to get overwhelmed and give up on the relationship altogether.

    anita

     

     

    #352672
    Inky
    Participant

    Hi Cass,

    I don’t know if you’ll come back to this, but a new voice here.

    This pandemic is showing people who they really are. Now you know this guy does not do well in a crisis. Do you really want a hot house flower or do you want someone flexible, and resilient, with a good sense of humor? Sure, he could be depressed, but that is often an excuse. He could get help, or get off the pot. He chose to get off the pot and end it. OK, well, now he has this black dog depression to deal with without your help. None too bright, either.

    You are only twenty-one. I know you feel eons old. But listen, they don’t let you die young anymore. These years are the time for you to study, travel, have fun and do whatever the heck you want to! When you’re ready, say at the ripe old age of twenty-four, take a note from the movie and go on 100 Dates! There should be one in the mix that would be exquisitely perfect for you, even in a pandemic.

    Best,

    Inky

    • This reply was modified 4 years, 7 months ago by Inky.
    #352686
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Dear Anita and Inky,

    Thank you for this advice, with my mind and heart all a bit of a mess right now I have failed to look at things such as “The goal is that each party to the relationship is part of the Solution for the other, not part of the problem.”

    Thank you Inky for another perspective on this situation! I can see things from a different light now and you’ve really given me a lot to think about. I sure as hell want a man who is resilient, flexible and has a good sense of humour. I deserve that.

     

    #352692
    Anonymous
    Guest

    You are welcome, Cass. Post again anytime!

    anita

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