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    Dia
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    Hello, I am a blind Girl, and I would like to share with you all my boyfriend’s story, in hope of getting some advices. I’m really getting desperate.

    #119647
    Dia
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    Here is his story:
    I don’t know where to start.
    I am totaly and completely lost; it happens since i was a child, and even if it hurts, i am used to it.
    since i was a child i am alone. at the garden, for example, i was always alone on the break between the classes.
    so alone, so lost in fact, that they always needed to call someone to stay with me. for some time my mother, then they got someone to stay with me there, only on the breaks.
    i never went to a school only for blind, and until i was 14, i studied in a school where i was the only blind student.
    Not hard to guess that i was always abandoned, alone and forgoten. we went outside for something? they forgot to take me back to the classroom, and the damn thing was so big, so full of people, that my little mind, i was a child when it started to happen, just didn’t knew how to react and asked to itself, again and again, why?
    it continued to happen, even last year when i finished school, but as i got older i needed to learn alone how to deal with this.
    before i started to use the laptop, i always had a book with me, for me to read and explain to everyone who found me, why i was left there.
    i never told these people what really happened. thinking now that it’s over, i think that i didn’t wanted them, the students or whatever, to get mad on me because i told someone else what they did.
    so first the book, then the computer, and there i was, explaining to everyone who found me, again and again, that i told my friends, that i never had, that i wanted to stay there or read or play, things like that.
    I was, until i finished school last year, the best student of my class. And let me tell you, it made things even worse.
    They forgot me outside, but inside the classroom they were always fighting to see who would stay with me and take advantage of it.
    the thing, i let them to do it, i helped them.
    i was desperately needing a friend, so i helped them, hoping that they would be friends and that the things outside the class would stop.
    Of course they didn’t, actualy they got worse. it started to happen a lot more, they started to ignore me in class, and only come to me when they needed help with a work, exercise
    or something.
    at my first school, the one that i was until i was 14, the thing was so bad that the school needed to get someone to stay with me in class and tell me the things that i was supposed to write, because no one would do it.
    at the new one it was worse, but there the teachers forced people to sit with me and do it, and hurt a lot to listen their mad tones as they told to me what was needed.
    i never told this to sommeone, it happens since i am 6, but i never told this to someone.
    sometimes i feel that it is too much, that the stored pain will just explode, that everything will go out.
    sometimes i just want to hide, run and hide where no one would be able to find me.
    sometimes i get sad without reason, sometimes i can’t sleep, or if i can i have nightmares, and i see myself as a child again, listening as everyone left a classroom or returned to it and left me there, sitting in a corner wondering what would happen next.
    so, it happened from 6 to 16.
    hard? true, but it isn’t over yet.
    another part, sad, hard, were my parents.
    controling, protective more than normal, i realised too late what they were doing.
    they alwats took care of me, and i was too hurt and alone before to realise that it was even more, and even worse than it.
    they made me dependent of them. they never allowed me to do anything, to try to do something for myself, even more if it was something dangerous.
    i was talking about it yesterday with my girlfriend, i will talk about her in a bit, that the only thing that they didn’t was ask if i was ok.
    i mean, i’m sure that i didn’t managed to hide it completely, even if i tried.
    they destroyed my life in a way. i don’t know how to do or use things that i am supposed to know. forks are a crazy example.
    they tried to teach me how they use it, not allowed me to learn alone the best way for me to do it.
    i started to slowly change it, but i still have a long way to go.
    the thing is that i can’t even leave the house. if someone asks them they will say that i don’t do it because i want, but you will agree that it isn’t true, even more if you stop to consider the fact that mother is scared to let me alone at home if they, mother, father brother and sister, are going somewhere. even knowing that i never open to someone, even knowing that i close and lock everything.
    what worries me is that they think i am so safe that now when i will be 18 (next month) they will not give me my documents for me to start working and building my life.
    until last year, when i realised what was going on, i wasn’t allowed to do anything, my food, etc.
    I mean, they thought that i would be better if i didn’t tried.
    but hell i need! they will not be here forever and i need to learn, i need to know these things, everyone does damnit.
    the sad part, even worse, is that they don’t do it only with me. my sister is another example. she’s 23 now, and they still try to control her clothes, with who and when, the time, she goes out to have fun in the city.
    it is completely annoying and wrong. she’s 23, she is suposed to know what she is doing, and if she doesn’t, she needs to learn, and the best way is trying and failing, making mistakes.
    they didn’t allowed me to make them, and they don’t want her to make them too.
    another thing that i can see, was a result of all that happened, is that i don’t have friends here, city i mean, and even online i have only a few. i don’t trust people, i can’t make myself to do it.
    I don’t want to get hurt anymore, and my mind just don’t allow me to trust someone.
    that’s why it surprises me that i found a girlfriend online, she’s from romania and she’s the reason why i’m writing it, she’s the reason that i have strength to do it.
    and again, my parents are a problem.
    i want to go and visit her. we want to meet, what my parents say? no, you can’t, too dangerous and you can’t go alone etc.
    hell they even tried, without success to make me interested in another girl.
    they want me here with them, they think that i will be safe.
    safe, maybe. i can be safe in lots of places, but i will be happy? i answer, no, not if i continue with them.
    Someone, please, help. Other blind teens learn how to live, how to make theyr food, they are allowed to have a phone, to get out of home, i cant. Someone, help me find a way, help me get out of this hell. I cant resist, not anymore. I understand that parents are supposed to help. Everyone tells me this. But no one understands how worse are mine.
    Well, The story got worse. Now that he’s finally 18, they dont give him his money, his documments, Dont let him to get out of house. Even if he’s an adult, they still cut his beard, clean his room, cut the food for him and much more. My mother offered to pay a plane ticket for him to visit me, but they refused, saying that the world is too big and they need to protect him from every possible arm. I’m scared that my boyfriend will never be able to get out of there, they never let him to take care of himself. His aunt told that she would like to help but she cant, even if she told that he needs to get out. I have the conversation from a few days ago, I was talking to his father.
    Me: You know, believing in K is very important. He is a capable
    >> person, able to do many things, you just need to believe in him. And i
    >> will tell you what a psicholog told my mother when i was born. /she is
    >> a blind girl, yes,. But give her independence even if you are
    >> scared. without it, she will be no one./ And my parents agreed.
    >> Aurora, the psicholog was a good friend until my parents learned how
    >> to deal with me. I believe that you did a good job regarding K’s
    >> independence, but give him the chance to be even more free. I had a
    >> hard job convincing my mother to let me to go in france when i was 11,
    >> But afther a month, i managed. She was worried and scared? oh she was.
    >> But she knew that it was my chance to learn to be even more
    >> independent. I tell you all of this because damn, i know that you
    >> don’t want to let him to come here. We are from different countries,
    >> true, but in my opinion he as every right to come here, or to go
    >> wherever he likes. Im not trying to teach you what to do, im just
    >> telling you what i think
    >>
    >> (uh yeah. that part with you did a good job was mixed with sarcasm,
    >> but honestly, I’m tired, exams around the place and instead of
    >> learning im fighting for k’s freedom, I like it I want him free,
    >> it just drains me and I end sleeping at 8PM…)
    >>
    >> He: Very good.
    >>
    >> me: What do you think?
    >>
    >> he: since the beginning i am thinking at this, but i see it more
    >> calmly, with serenity. all of us have the right to come and go, but
    >> always with the foot on the ground, without this character of urgence.
    >> god is on command and will show us the way in the right time, years in
    >> the future.
    >>
    >> Me: I get your point, but God gave us free will. And i believe he’s
    >> giving Us a chance. If he wouldn’t want us to meet, he wouldn’t help
    >> my mother to have the money for us. Honestly, no matter what K and
    >> me could say doesn’t convince you, and im not talking about urgency
    >> here. Im talking about chances. And love. My grandmother died, but
    >> before she promised she’ll watch me. I believe in her and God. I
    >> believe that God wants K and me to meet. I also know that you are
    >> scared, but lets turn the situation around. Picture the following
    >> please.
    >> Imagine that you have the money for us to meet, and then My mother
    >> telling me to tell you that if you have the money, you should come
    >> here. Also, picture a very important exam, like, extremely important
    >> exam for K around the corner. In this situation, of me having no
    >> exam, and not having at the moment the money, honestly, i would
    >> convince my parents to bring me there. And i know for sure that if my
    >> exam wouldn’t exist, they would let me come there, even if they told
    >> clearly that they will be worried sick. I always told them that
    >> worrying brings no good. being positive is the way. I view everything
    >> with realism. Answer this please. Ok, he’s not coming here, but when?
    >> afther years? you honestly think that if we’ll not see each other for
    >> 7 years we’ll resist? My father told yes. Well, ill tell you exactly
    >> what i told him. Even if we would want, we wouldn’t be able. “Father,
    >> try and picture this. You never saw mother, only heard her voice. And
    >> you have the chance to see her. Would you wayt two more years if you
    >> have the money, and just think at how would she look, or you’ll take
    >> the chance?” Of course he agreed with me. He told that he can see my
    >> point even if he doesn’t want to accept it, and he told that my life
    >> is mine to live. Im being painfully honest here. I love K, And i
    >> want to see him. Im not a terrorist, or other things, even if I’m sure
    >> you tought that. Im a blind girl with two amazing parents. And im
    >> theyr only child. Despite this and the danger, they would still let me
    >> to see K.
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> he: i know all that you wrote. and even in this situation,
    >> there’s the hand of god. the next second, minute, the future is god’s.
    >> everything happens in the right moment, everything, diana. this story
    >> that you two are living is beautiful and you two are in the right way.
    >> we’ll continue talking later.
    >>
    >> (that’s afther he woke.)
    >>
    >> me: but think at all i told, seriously. don’t leave everything in the
    >> hands of god. He can take care of all of us, but it wouldn’t be fair
    >> to let him do everything. If we want something we should fight for it.
    >>
    >>
    >> me:You know, about your fear of letting K come here… Real
    >> difficulties can be overcome. It’s the imaginary ones that are
    >> unconquerable. You gain strength, experience and confidence by every
    >> experience where you really stop to look fear in the face. our Time
    >> isn’t endless. All we have to decide is what to do
    >> with the time that is given to us
    >> Don’t wait until everything is just right. It will never be
    >> perfect. There will always be challenges, obstacles and less than
    >> perfect conditions. So what? Get started now By giving chances, by
    >> conquering fear, and by believing in the ones you love.
    >>
    >>
    >> His father: Right. I know.
    >> Me: well, then if you know, and i know, lets work with it not against
    >> it. God gives us chances, but they’ll not exist forever. Please
    >> understand a last thing and afther i write this ill stop bothering you
    >> because ill sleep or something. I have the money, but i have them now.
    >> They’ll not exist forever. The thing is that my family doesn’t like
    >> that i wayt for K if there’s a chance for us to never meet because
    >> of well, you not letting him. I mean they like us, actually love us,
    >> but Theyre worried that in the way youre acting now, youll never let
    >> him come here. And no one here wants me to end hurt. :)) And they know
    >> me, i love K so ill not break up.
    >>
    >> he: everything has it’s time and hour to happen
    >> place themselves in our place and in the place of the other family
    >> members. everything that needs to happen will happen.
    >> stay ok and focus on your plans. always believe.
    >> o don’t forget to live every moment, and not only to talk about
    >> meeting. calm, focus and have fait.
    >>
    >> (what else can I say? he always uses the god damn and the keep wayting
    >> things whenever we talk. Please help If you can. Im not a big god
    >> believer, but… sigh. Im so, so tired. it’s like theyre wayting for us to break up. Im in my last year of high school, and in my country I need to pass a very complex exam for me to show that yes I finished high school. My parents told that they have nothing against us meeting, they know that he doesn’t have the money to pay a plane ticket so they offered to help, but they told that I always was the one to keep this relationship going and that if he loves me, the least he can do is to visit. My exam stops me from visiting him. we have a year and almost 8 months together. help, please?

    #119651
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear annellin:

    As I understand it, you are a high school student in the last year of high school, facing a very complex high school graduation exam. You will be 18 next month. You are a girl, a very young woman. You live with your parents and two siblings. You are blind. You have a long distance boyfriend, we’ll call him K, for the last year and 8 months almost. He lives in Romania, with his parents. (Is he an only child?) He is also blind, as I understand. You never met him in person and very much want to meet him in person.

    There are two ways you considered accomplishing that: either you travel to Romania or he travels to your country. You figure you can’t travel to Romania because you need to study and attend your complex exam. And so, you want K to travel to your country and stay with your home. Your parents agreed to the latter and even offered to pay for K’s plane ticket. But his parents, specifically his father, refused the offer. You have been in communication with his father, trying to convince him to accept the offer.

    Am I correct so far?

    In your efforts to convince his father, you make good points, one of which is: “Don’t wait until everything is just right. It will never be perfect. There will always be challenges, obstacles and less than perfect conditions. So what? Get started now By giving chances, by conquering fear.” Very well articulated, I am impressed.

    I have four questions, so that I can understand better:

    1. Did K’s father communicate directly with your parents or only with you? If he communicated with your parents, how did that go?

    2. If K visits you while you have your exam, will his visit not interfere with your studies for the exam and taking the exam successfully?

    3. How long would you like K’s visit to be? Was the length of the proposed visit discussed with all parents involved?

    4. Was there an alternative plan discussed: that you finish your exam, graduate high school and then you travel to Romania to meet K? What at your thoughts about this option?

    anita

    #119655
    Dia
    Participant

    Hello, Anita. No, I’m already 18, And K is 18 too. He’s living in Brazil, Me in Romania. I’m an only child, he as two siblings. But yes, I spoke to his father, he didn’t listened. They know from January that we want to meet, and they keep protesting. If you look at what I said, youll see that yes I care about the exam. No even afther high school sadly ill not be able to go, ill start university. K is not going to go to university this or next year, so our best chance is for him to visit. Im seriously depressed and crying a lot recently, my depression is affecting my marcs but I feel that I simply I’m going to break in pieces. I keep trying to convince his family. Theyre not going to listen to my parents, I translated to his family what my parents say, but they don’t care, and they keep saying that if I have the money I should go there. My parents don’t agree. The plane ticket is very expensive, and mother made a big effort to get the money for me to give him. She told that the least K can do is to come here. Romania is much safer than brazil anyway.

    #119657
    Dia
    Participant

    Oh, and sorry. We want his visit to be at least a month, because isn’t worth to give so many money only for two weeks. No, it will not interfere, If he will come in December, I have Christmas vacation

    #119658
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear annellin:

    K is a very lucky young man to have you so interested and motivated to meet him and spend quality time with him in person. I hope he feels how important he is to you, by noticing how hard you try!

    And you did a good job trying to convince his father, working around his father’s assertion that … god will lead the way, (not you and not his son!) It is very difficult to argue against this vague god-will-decide claim!
    But you tried and tried hard.

    It is my understanding that as controlling/ overprotecting your parents are, his parents are even more so. Am I correct? I say so because you wrote that they trim his beard and cut his food for him. Your parents don’t cut your food for you, do they…

    By offering the money for the plane ticket and trying to convince the father, you did EVERYTHING you could do. There is nothing more you can do, as I see it. Your parents don’t want you to travel and his parents don’t want him to travel.

    I don’t know about the laws in Brazil: is K, at 18, considered an adult? Does he have the legal right to get someone to help him pack and travel without his parents’ consent?

    If the answer is Yes, he can do so legally, did you talk to K about it

    anita

    #119662
    Dia
    Participant

    Yes He can get out, it’s legal, but they’re not allowing him to get out of home, or have his own documents. He told me that he feels like he’s in a prizon. My parents aren’t controlling, I do whatever I want, theyre there when I need them. theyre honestly amazing. My parents want him to show that he can be strong enough to be able to come here, they want him to show that he loves me. Sadly no one can help him to come here, and I don’t know who to contact. He’s really trapped.

    #119663
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear annellin:

    I think I have the details correct at this point: I didn’t know before who is the only child, who has siblings; who lives in Romania, who lives in the other country (Brazil); who has the controlling parents and who has the “honestly amazing” parents. I think I have the details now.

    Not that I can be helpful. One thing that occurred to me while thinking about your case earlier, is that many young people who can see fine, people who are not blind or physically handicapped in any way, still do not defy their parents and obey them, no matter how much they want to do otherwise. People feel trapped, like you do and like K does, even when their eyesight is there. The reason they are trapped is because of fear, fear of disobeying their parents, of losing parents’ love, support, emotional and sometimes, financial.

    Even if K had his documents and if he had someone to help him, he may still be too afraid to take a stand against his parents and travel. Keep it in mind.

    Fear is a big motivator in all people, including his parents, his father specifically. I am supposing he is afraid for his son’s safety.

    Back to the plan of him travelling: when you discussed it with his father, did the conversation reach the point of discussing the details of the travel?

    If your parents had a LOT of money, and they could have afforded sending a ticket to someone who could accompany K throughout his travel and then stay with him in your home for a while to see that everything there is safe for K.. and then, that someone would stay in a hotel while K is alone with you and your parents, then MAYBE his father would have agreed. Maybe. Maybe not.

    You can’t argue much with fear. If his father is fearful about his son’s safety, without a detailed and comprehensive planning for his son’s safety (such as what I suggested), there is nothing you can do.

    Your thoughts/ feelings?

    anita

    #119665
    Dia
    Participant

    Yes, we explained to him about how things will work on the plane etc. No, we don’t have money more than for one ticket. This was my birthday gift from both of my parents. Were a normal family, not a lot of money, but this was theyr sacrifice for me. We explained to him everything possible, but he doesn’t want to listen. K Told that he would do anyting to get out, but he cant get out, he doesn’t know who to contact to get out. He doesn’t like his family and he wants to be away from them forever if possible.

    #119667
    Dia
    Participant

    I’m really, really depressed. I don’t want to loose him, im very scared.

    #119668
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear annellin:

    I understand you are afraid to lose K.

    And it is also true that you are safe where you are: living with two parents you like very much, who were willing to give you such a great gift: a plane ticket for K.

    You are safe even if it doesn’t work out that you see K soon. I know you want more than safety in life and you already achieved that: your efforts here are remarkable. You are courageous: to try talk a grown man, K’s father, into letting his son go across the ocean, is a courageous act on your part!

    If K is a prisoner, then his jailer, his father, is a kind enough jailer to make it possible for his son to communicate with you this year and eight months. He could have easily made it impossible. And he was kind enough in his conversation with you even though you are so much younger than him.

    I think his father is afraid for his son, to have his son travel alone to a foreign country and stay with people he doesn’t know. It is not unreasonable. His son is only 18 and he is blind.

    You are not losing K. You still have the same online communication with him that you had for the last year and eight months. Nothing changed, only this plan has not succeeded.

    anita

    #119670
    Dia
    Participant

    He will not let him come here, not now, not never. And blind or not, he needs independence

    #119672
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear annellin:

    He needs as much independence as he can handle. He also needs help and protection. It is a balance of sorts. You are not fully independent either. And you are correct, “blind or not, he needs independence.”

    But he cannot handle complete independence. And neither can I: I am not blind and I cannot be fully independent. I don’t think anyone can be.

    anita

    #119673
    Dia
    Participant

    The plan was for him to come here. my mother told me that she as nothing against him living permanently here, she would be ok with him and his family, but she cant pay for all of them to visit. im not making him to be fully independent, I just want him to be here, where he would get much more freedom like me, but he wouldn’t be alone

    #119674
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear annellin:

    I re-read parts of your original post. What confused me before is that you posted HIS message mixed with yours, so the “he” and “she” got confusing. As I re-read it, I noticed this time that he was asking for help. Figuring you love him as much as you do, I have a better feeling as to how MUCH you do want to help him. You desperately want to help him because he.. desperately asked for help.

    You got your parents on board: they are willing to help K. If it was up to me, I would “vote” for him moving to Romania, so to live with you and your parents (who are so very generous!)

    Unfortunately, it is all up to his father. If his father/ parents are doing something illegal against K, and if Brazil is a country of such laws, then K or you can contact their police force so to interfere. Maybe holding his documents is illegal? Maybe not allowing him to leave the apartment is illegal? I don’t know. (As I understand it his parents do not abuse K physically, like beating him up, or verbally, calling him names and such?)

    Other than involving law enforcement, if laws have been broken and if laws are enforced, what can you do?

    As painful as it is for you, reading his cry for HELP, you have to endure this pain. If there is absolutely nothing you can do, then there is nothing you can do.

    There is a prayer called The Serenity Prayer. It goes something like this:

    “..Grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change
    The courage to change the things I can
    And the wisdom to know the difference.”

    anita

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