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March 7, 2025 at 9:42 am #443709
anita
ParticipantHello everyone,
I’ve been reflecting on the role anger has played in my life— how it influences my actions, shapes my experiences, and impacts my relationships. Anger is such a complex emotion, and I believe many of us face challenges in understanding or managing it.
I’d like to share some of my key experiences and realizations, and I hope this can spark a meaningful discussion. Maybe you’ll relate to some of it, or perhaps you have your own thoughts to add about how anger has affected your life.
How has anger impacted your thoughts or behaviors? What strategies have helped you channel or soothe it? I’m looking forward to sharing my journey and hearing yours as well. Let’s learn and grow together!
Trigger Warning: This post discusses childhood experiences with anger, including mentions of verbal threats and intense emotional expressions. Please proceed with care if these topics are difficult for you.
When I think about my first experience with anger— my introduction to it in early life— I think of my mother’s Anger. Anger with a capital A. It meant disaster: screaming, yelling, breaking or tearing things, and even threatening suicide or homicide (she would use the word “murder”).
To put it mildly, it wasn’t a contained or disciplined kind of anger. It was explosive, with no apparent limits. Well, there was one limit, I suppose: I’m alive to tell the story. She didn’t murder me, after all. She didn’t break my bones either, though she threatened to. I remember her saying, “Do you think I’m stupid enough to break your bones and get in trouble for it? I’m careful.”
She hit me with her hands, arms, and feet— kicking me, slapping my face. I still remember the heat sensation on my cheeks after each slap, partly from the physical impact of her hand and partly from the anger that made my face burn. She shamed me, humiliated me with words, saying things like, “You are a big zero,” among many other hurtful things.
I especially remember something she said while hitting me: “The only thing I like about you is that when I’m hitting you, you look down at the floor and say nothing back to me.”
That sentence, in particular, lies at the very heart of my early and ongoing experience with anger. On one hand, she expressed a kind of approval— something I desperately needed. What she liked about me, however, was my submission. I craved approval so much that I continued to submit to her as a child, and later, I carried this pattern into adulthood, submitting to other aggressive people in my life.
Over time, submission became a deeply ingrained habit. Yet the anger I felt about being mistreated never disappeared— it simmered beneath the surface. This unresolved anger shaped my behavior: I would submit to mistreatment, or even perceived mistreatment, only to later express my anger by cutting ties with the person entirely. This pattern of submission, followed by withdrawal, left me isolated, unable to form long-term relationships with others.
For a child, approval from a parent can feel like a basic survival need. When that approval is tied to submission, it sends a damaging message: “You are valued only when you give up your power.” The child learns that being silent and compliant avoids further harm and earns rare moments of validation. But beneath the surface, anger brews.
This unresolved anger may not be openly expressed in the moment but instead builds up, later exploding in ways that disrupt relationships. The result can be a pattern of isolation, as the anger drives people away or leads to severed connections.
These opposing forces— the longing to stay close and the urge to pull away— don’t easily coexist, creating constant internal conflict. Acting on one side (seeking connection) can feel like a betrayal of self, while acting on the other (protecting oneself) can feel like giving up on relationships altogether.
This inner conflict can drain emotional energy, as the person tries to navigate these opposing needs without resolution. The fear of being hurt again can make trust difficult, and the anger about past experiences can make forgiveness or openness feel out of reach.
Without learning to establish healthy boundaries or manage these emotions, relationships may repeatedly end when the anger boils over. Over time, this can lead to isolation, as the person avoids the risk of being mistreated again while still yearning for the connection they miss. It’s like trying to walk a tightrope between connection and protection, never fully finding balance.
I’m still navigating this tightrope in my own life, but I’ve found that reflecting on these patterns is a crucial first step toward healing. I’d love to hear from you— how has anger played a role in your life? What challenges have you faced in managing it, and what has helped you along the way?
Feel free to share your thoughts and experiences here. Let’s support and learn from one another!
anita
March 8, 2025 at 7:37 am #443902anita
ParticipantHello again everyone:
It occurred to me this morning that I need to befriend my anger, to no longer view it as a negative, dangerous emotion that needs to be suppressed. And, so, I looked online and to my surprise, found an article by Karla Mclaren called “Understanding and Befriending Anger”.
It reads: “We’ve been told that anger needs to be controlled or suppressed, and that it’s a negative emotion, but anger can be the most honorable emotion you have if you know what it is, why it appears, and how to work with it… When I discuss emotions, I always start with anger, because it’s the emotion that can help you understand exactly who you are — as an individual, and as a member of social groups…
“However, when people don’t know how to work with anger — when they attack others with it, or when they repress it and lose their way — anger can be a real problem. The troubles that many people have with anger make it one of the most hated emotions there is, but this is truly a shame, because anger brings you gifts that are irreplaceable.
“No other emotion can do what anger does, and no other emotion can support you in the ways that anger can. Simply put, anger is a necessary and magnificent emotion that can improve your life and your relationships in astonishing ways…
“Sadly, most of us weren’t taught about the subtleties of emotional nuance (understanding nuance helps you identify emotions at many different intensity levels), and as a result, we tend to identify anger only after it gets to a very obvious or intense level. Since most of us were never taught how to take effective actions with our anger, this intense anger can often be acted out in very painful ways…
“However, people can also experience a great deal of pain and trouble in their lives if they don’t have enough anger — so let’s look at anger empathically…
“Anger is a very social emotion; if you can understand its nuances and subtleties, it can help you become an effective and healthy voice for social justice.
“Anger contains a great deal of focused, protective energy, and when you don’t have enough of it, you may struggle to set boundaries and protect yourself in relationships (or to protect the rights and dignity of others). Without your anger, you can lose your vitality and your capacity to respond in resilient ways.
“But when you’re using too much anger, you may have so much energy that you’re like a loose cannon with revolving knife attachments that breathe fire. With too much anger, you may set rigid boundaries and protect yourself and your opinions so fiercely that you make everyone’s lives miserable, including your own. So let’s look at anger more closely and learn how to use it more skillfully.
“If you tend to repress your anger, you’ll be unable to restore your boundaries because you won’t have the strength and focus you need to protect yourself…
“‘If you are never angry, then you are unborn’- This saying is from the Bassa tribe in West Africa (it’s interesting that I had to go outside of our culture to find useful words about anger), and it reminds us that anger is a normal part of every life. When you know you’re feeling anger, you can make intelligent emotional decisions about what to do with it.
“Anger brings you a lot of energy, intensity, and focus. Knowing anger’s purpose — and asking the internal questions — will help you channel that intensity into healthy action.
Under “Course: Befriending Anger at Empathy Academy”, the same author writes: “Anger has a terrible reputation, because so many people use anger to hurt themselves or others. But this isn’t anger’s fault! This is not anger’s true nature.
“The true purpose of anger is to help you develop boundaries, healthy and well-defined relationships, vulnerability, and the ability to love.
“Anger is an essential emotion that helps you in every area of your life, and when you know what anger is and how to work with it, you can change your life…
“Learning to work with anger — instead of repressing the life out of it or exploding outward with it — is one of the most important skills you can learn.
“Your anger can be a gift to you and to everyone you know.”
Here is from an article in Psychology Today by Anita Owusu, titled “Befriending Anger”: “We must learn to sit with our anger, understand its root causes, and use it as a source of clarity and strength. Anger can be a powerful force for setting boundaries, motivating change, and pushing us to seek justice, but only when we manage it intentionally. By reframing our relationship with anger, we can move from a reactive state to one of thoughtful, constructive action…
“When we learn to manage our anger with awareness and skill, it can become a catalyst for deeper self-awareness, healthier relationships, and a more balanced life. In this way, anger, rather than being something to fear, becomes a guidepost—a way of pointing us toward our unmet needs and values. As we learn to manage it, we create space for healing, growth, and authentic connection.”
End of quotes. I will reflect on these quotes in the next post.
anita
March 8, 2025 at 9:59 am #443932anita
ParticipantThe quotes above deeply resonate with me, offering a new perspective on anger— both my own and others’. They encourage me to view anger as a friend and protector rather than as a threat. While I recognize that the expression of anger can sometimes be harmful, the emotion itself is not inherently dangerous. I now see the message behind anger: I need protection, and so do others; I am worthy of protection, and so are they.
For a long time, I understood that expressing anger abusively is unhealthy— a lesson I learned early in life when I associated anger with abuse. However, I have recently come to realize that repressing or suppressing anger can be just as harmful.
My past misunderstandings about anger led to significant challenges in my relationships with others over the years. With this new understanding, I feel more confident in improving my relationship with both myself and those around me.
I no longer fear anger as an emotion; instead, I distinguish between anger itself and its abusive expressions. This shift has allowed me this very morning, for the first time in my life, to feel empathy for myself when I experience anger and to extend that same empathy to others when they are angry.
anita
March 10, 2025 at 2:16 pm #444046Peter
ParticipantHi Anita
You have come a long way dealing with the experiences of your past and it.
How has anger played a role in your life?
Anger has been a difficult emotion for me as its energy is so strong that instead of getting our attention it can take our attention. Playing on your thought from a previous discussion that “the damaging emotions are the secondary and tertiary emotions that get in the way of processing and healing from traumatic past experiences.”.
I don’t think we have many good role models for dealing with anger. Most of our cultures stories plots use anger to push the story along. The most common being someone ego/honor/sense of self being confronted. Similarly to your experience I associate anger with abuse and loss of control. A something to fear. Yet anger is also a call to action against cruelty against others and ourselves… I wonder if theirs two kinds of anger that I’m wrestling with here…. The mundane ego experience of anger and that which is of the soul. How the two get all mixed together to confuse things. (Your experience with your mother would be a soul anger)
The question I ask myself is once anger has gotten our attention do we need to hold onto it in order to use its energy to move into action and or protect ourselves? (Why does the Samurai not kill the murderer of his Master/Self) out of anger? – If we use the energy of anger is their a danger we become what we our protecting ourselves from? Today world events show that to be a truth.)
I have been investigating Krishnamurti thoughts on the matter.
“Anger has that peculiar quality of isolation; like sorrow, it cuts one off, and for the time being, at least, all relationship comes to an end. Anger has the temporary strength and vitality of the isolated. There is a strange despair in anger; for isolation is despair.” – KrishnamurtiLooking into my anger… yes their is a fear of isolation, separation, shame, lots of shame… even when I was the victim of others anger and cruelty not deserved. That this fear leaves me feeling angry and depressed. An anger that instead of empowering me to action empowered shame.
Krishnamurti goes on to say “It is the explanation, the verbalization, whether silent or spoken, that sustains anger, that gives it scope and depth. The explanation silent or spoken, acts as a shield against the discovery of ourselves as we are.”
Krishnamurti argues that any labeling create conflict – even the notion of non-violence is violence – so we must examine our labels to see what they may be shielding use from.
This matches my experience as I tend to hold on to anger as a shield and or pretense of bravado. Anything to avoid dealing with the experience directly or looking/feeling week. I need to point out a deference between the first and second half of life where in the former such a avoidance may have been necessary while now in the latter I have more tools to better deal with such things. A bridge to empathy for my younger self?
Krishnamurti notes that the “storing up of anger becomes resentment” suggesting that it isn’t anger were exploring but our resentments and disappointments? That anger or perhaps all emotions aren’t a thing, they are. That our “verbalization” of our emotions should not be confused as emotion?
I notice as I wrote the above that when I have felt angry from a experience where anger was a valid response to the event I became afraid ,ashamed and yes resentful… which “made me” angry…repeat… Krishnamurti notes that the antidote to resentments is forgiveness. Put another way its our verbalization (I am this I am that) that requires forgiveness not the emotion. End the verbalization and I discover the emotion is gone.
I like the idea of forgiveness as a antidote to accumulation, perhaps the accumulation of Karma. By forgiveness I do not mean forgive and forget but the process towards a honest Yes to life as it is.
A final quote from Krishnamurti: “Anger cannot be got rid of by the action of will, for will is part of violence. Will is the outcome of desire, the craving to lie; and desire in its very nature is aggressive, dominant. To suppress anger by the exertion of will is to transfer anger to a different level, giving it a different name; but it is still part of violence. To be free from violence, which is not the cultivation of non-violence, there must be the understanding of desire.”
Something to explore for another day.
March 10, 2025 at 3:38 pm #444049Alessa
ParticipantI learned to change my anger into safer emotions as a child because anger would be met with intense violence. It was just too dangerous for me to express it.
I had to limit the amount of drinking because the suppressed anger comes out when I drink.
I was taught by my sister that if I didn’t express anger during a disagreement that I didn’t care. She taught me to yell and swear even though I didn’t want to.
I was groomed for my childhood to accept abuse. It took a lot for me to learn to set boundaries with others. It still isn’t easy for me. I still get anxious and scared.
I read that anger is a secondary emotion. This means that other emotions often are along side it. Anxiety is a big one for me.
Nowadays, I’m working on letting go of resentment. I’m finding mantras to be very helpful.
March 10, 2025 at 4:32 pm #444050anita
ParticipantThank you Peter and Alessa for caring to honor my thread with your valuable input. I am looking forward to thoroughly read and reply further tomorrow.
Anita
March 11, 2025 at 3:23 am #444055Alessa
ParticipantBless your soul Anita, and you Peter as well. 😊
Some additional thoughts. Since anxiety and anger are connected for me and as I said before my anxiety misfires when I’m reminded of difficulties in the past, anger also misfires for me too. This means that just because I feel hurt or experience anger or anxiety, doesn’t mean that anything untoward is happening. It took me a while to learn this.
Outside of the obvious verbal abuse. I have recently been learning that there is a vast wealth of communication that is considered unhealthy that many people simply aren’t aware of.
I read that in times of stress people often default to their most primitive emotional responses. For me, this is a flip flopping between begging someone to stop and demanding for them to stop. This stems from my childhood. When I was a child I would plead with my mother to stop and it would only excite her. Fighting her would make her incredibly violent. I learned to just freeze and wait for it to be over. This was the quickest and least violent way.
Blaming and criticising others when I’m hurt has been an unhealthy pattern. It is one that I’m determined to break. I feel like reflecting on my own behaviour instead of other people’s is key to this.
Ultimately, I believe that general conflict is hurt people hurting each other and adding more hurt on top of that is not helpful. I believe that no matter what someone does they don’t deserve to be hurt.
March 11, 2025 at 9:01 am #444065anita
ParticipantDear Alessa:
Your openness and courage shine through in your words. It takes immense strength to look at such complex emotions and patterns from your past, and even more so to work toward understanding and healing them.
What you shared about how anger was shaped by your childhood experiences— how it was dangerous to express, how it was buried and misdirected— is incredibly powerful. It’s amazing how adaptive children can be, finding ways to survive even the most challenging circumstances. But as you’ve pointed out so insightfully, those survival strategies sometimes become roadblocks in adulthood.
The connection you’ve made between anger, anxiety, and other emotions is profound. Understanding that anger can be a secondary emotion—tied to feelings like fear, hurt, or powerlessness— offers a path to addressing what’s underneath. Your awareness that misfires of anger or anxiety don’t always signal real present-day threats is a huge step toward reclaiming your sense of safety and calm.
Your commitment to breaking unhealthy patterns, like blaming or criticizing when hurt, is inspiring. Reflecting on one’s own behavior instead of focusing on others is no small feat, especially when past pain complicates the present. And your mantra practice— it’s beautiful to hear how it’s helping you let go of resentment.
You articulated something so essential about human conflict: that it often stems from hurt people perpetuating hurt, and that adding more pain doesn’t help. Your belief in kindness, even in conflict, speaks volumes about the compassion and wisdom you’ve cultivated through your journey.
Alessa, your growth and self-awareness are a testament to the resilience of the human spirit. Thank you for sharing your experiences so vulnerably and for the blessings you’ve sent my way. I feel truly grateful for the connection and strength in your words.
anita
March 11, 2025 at 9:50 am #444069anita
ParticipantDear Peter:
Your reflection on anger is deeply thought-provoking and insightful. Thank you for sharing such a nuanced perspective— you’ve touched on profound and meaningful ideas about anger.
I resonate strongly with your observation that anger’s energy can take our attention rather than get it. That aligns with my own experiences— how anger can sometimes feel so overwhelming that it overshadows clarity, blocking my ability to see things clearly or make rational decisions. It’s a powerful force that can dominate our minds if we let it.
It’s true that many of us don’t have good examples of how to handle anger in a healthy way. So often, stories in our culture portray anger as something that escalates conflict rather than resolving it. Unfortunately, these portrayals don’t show us how to process anger constructively.
When you wrote, “I wonder if there are two kinds of anger that I’m wrestling with here…. The mundane ego experience of anger and that which is of the soul. How the two get all mixed together to confuse things. (Your experience with your mother would be a soul anger),” I found that distinction fascinating. I hadn’t thought about anger in this way before, and I’d like to reflect more on it and expand the idea:
Ego anger is tied to how we see ourselves and how we expect others to treat us. It’s usually fleeting, reactive, and impulsive. It tends to surface in moments where we feel disrespected, insulted, or ignored, and it’s often about protecting or asserting our ego— our sense of “me.”
Examples: Feeling anger when a friend forgets my birthday and I interpret it as them not caring about me, or when someone skips ahead of me in line at the grocery store, leaving me feeling disrespected or frustrated.
Soul anger, on the other hand, comes from a deeper place— it’s a reaction to profound injustices or violations of core values, dignity, or safety. This type of anger is more enduring and emotionally intense. It’s tied to experiences that resonate with our inner moral compass or deeply held wounds. When processed constructively, it can inspire meaningful change or deep self-reflection. However, if left unresolved, it can weigh heavily on us.
Examples: Feeling anger toward a parent who was abusive or neglectful, tied to a deep sense of betrayal and harm; anger at seeing vulnerable groups mistreated or exploited, which can motivate advocacy or activism; or anger when witnessing environmental destruction, as it clashes with values about protecting the planet.
Key Differences: Ego anger is usually about personal slights or frustrations and is surface-level, often tied to everyday irritations. Soul anger, in contrast, arises from a deeper sense of injustice or moral violation, tied to enduring wounds or values. While ego anger might push us to defend our pride or assert control, soul anger often calls us to act in the name of justice or to protect what matters most.
Soul anger, like what I experienced in my relationship with my mother, feels deeply tied to a sense of justice and betrayal. But as you wisely noted, holding onto anger— whether ego or soul— can harm us and even risk turning us into what we are trying to avoid.
I can also relate to the fear and shame you described feeling alongside anger. It’s not easy to unpack those emotions, and I admire the way you’ve worked through them and found empathy for your younger self. That kind of self-compassion is truly inspiring.
Forgiveness as a way to release resentment is something that deeply resonates with me too. I love how you framed it—not as “forgive and forget,” but as a way to fully accept life as it is and move forward. That perspective feels so freeing and powerful.
Thank you again for sharing your thoughts and these quotes. They’ve given me a lot to think about, and I’m so grateful for this opportunity to learn from your perspective. I’ll continue reflecting on your post and share more thoughts with you tomorrow.
anita
March 12, 2025 at 1:06 pm #444092anita
ParticipantDear Peter and Everyone:
I’d like to take some time this Wednesday morning to respond to your post, Peter, part by part:
“You have come a long way dealing with the experiences of your past and it.”- Thank you, Peter, for your kind acknowledgment. I truly appreciate it.
“Similarly to your experience I associate anger with abuse and loss of control.”- I believe the key is finding ways to express anger respectfully and with self-control.
“The question I ask myself is once anger has gotten our attention do we need to hold onto it… If we use the energy of anger is there a danger we become what we are protecting ourselves from? Today world events show that to be a truth.”- I agree. When a victim of abuse expresses anger abusively, it creates a tragic cycle where the victim risks becoming the victimizer.
“‘Anger has that peculiar quality of isolation; like sorrow, it cuts one off, and for the time being, at least, all relationship comes to an end…’ – Krishnamurti”- Perhaps it’s abusive expressions of anger that isolate and end relationships. On the other hand, could anger expressed respectfully— perhaps even with empathy— strengthen relationships instead of breaking them? I feel much of our fear of anger stems from how often it is expressed abusively, both in personal lives and on a global scale.
“Looking into my anger… yes there is a fear of isolation, separation, shame, lots of shame… even when I was the victim of others’ anger and cruelty not deserved. That this fear leaves me feeling angry and depressed. An anger that instead of empowering me to action empowered shame.”- Anger and shame seem so closely connected here. I wonder— did you, growing up or later on, experience being shamed for expressing anger? Perhaps for your facial expression or even a slight change in your tone? Please don’t feel obligated to answer, unless you feel comfortable, but it’s something I’ve been reflecting on.
“Krishnamurti goes on to say ‘It is the explanation, the verbalization, whether silent or spoken, that sustains anger’”- This makes me think: could it be that shame around feeling angry is what sustains it? If anger were given space to breathe— free from judgment— might it dissipate on its own rather than struggle for air?
“I tend to hold on to anger as a shield and or pretense of bravado. Anything to avoid dealing with the experience directly or looking/feeling weak.”- I wonder if, for many of us, anger becomes a coping mechanism to shield us from confronting deeper emotions like shame.
“By forgiveness I do not mean forgive and forget but the process towards an honest Yes to life as it is.”- I really like this sentiment. Perhaps this could also mean embracing a shameless identity— one where we fully accept ourselves without self-judgment.
“Finally, Krishnamurti says, ‘Anger cannot be got rid of by the action of will, for will is part of violence… To be free from violence, which is not the cultivation of non-violence, there must be the understanding of desire.'”- This resonates with me deeply. It seems to suggest that suppressing anger with willpower only transforms it into another form of violence. True freedom from anger might come through understanding the desires and motivations driving it— a call for inner reflection rather than outward control.
As I reflect this Wednesday afternoon, I feel a hint of the rage I’ve carried from experiencing abuse— rage at having been degraded, humiliated, and at passively submitting to it. There is shame not only in having been abused but also in those moments of submission. My desire now is to stand tall and affirm my worth— equal to anyone else’s. My hope is to let go of shame and never submit to abuse again.
Equally, I feel a desire to not perpetuate shame or abuse toward anyone else.
anita
March 13, 2025 at 10:43 am #444119Peter
ParticipantHi Everyone
When I reflect back I don’t feel anger like I did when I was young – That said I don’t think I can be friends with anger… I do is have what I feel is a healthy respect for it.
“Anger has that peculiar quality of isolation; like sorrow, it cuts one off, and for the time being, at least, all relationship comes to an end…’ – Krishnamurti”-
On the other hand, could anger expressed respectfully— perhaps even with empathy— strengthen relationships instead of breaking them? I feel much of our fear of anger stems from how often it is expressed abusively, both in personal lives and on a global scale?I’ve given this a lot of thought and can’t recall a experience where I have been able to use the energy of anger, which I picture as white or red hot, as not isolating.
You asked if I was shamed for my anger and the answer is yes and no. When I’ve been in a moment of anger were there is hot energy of anger, I’m very much reacting vice responding to the situation and in after almost always regret my actions and felt shame. What I would call deserved shame. If you’re asking if I have ever been shamed for standing up for my self (setting boundaries which others may view as a acting out of anger) yes and what I would call undeserved shame.Seems I’m differentiating between the ‘energy of anger’ and a general notion of anger.
Alessa mentioned that anger may be a secondary emotion which matches my experience. I feel that for relationship to be strengthened by anger its when the energy of anger is dissipated and primary emotion acknowledged. My observation is that it takes time to allow the energy of anger to dissipated before the primary emotion can be felt, acknowledged and addressed. It is indeed a strong relationship with good boundaries that allow for that space vice anger transforming into resentments and isolation.
That’s the thing with anger it always transforming itself into other things. I’ve been watching a show called Family Law. The main character marriage and career unraveling seemingly due to a drinking problem. At the root of the drinking problem is anger at unresolved parental issues. This anger isn’t hot though, its subterranean. The character is complex in that her nature is loving and protective yet many of her interactions are reactions and so often cruel and vengeful only feeding the shame, fear and isolation that may be the primary emotions anger is covered up. She is in AA but has not done the work. (Actually, all the characters, even the therapist, have very little self knowledge and seem incapable of learning anything from their experiences, which keeps the show going. These characters are in serious need of shadow work as they are almost pure projection of their past pain. Unable to see their shadow they keep recreating the issues in their relationships.)
If a relationship becomes stronger after anger, was it anger that was expressed respectfully, or was anger acknowledged, and the primary emotion addressed. I think I’m getting lost in language and the difference doesn’t matter.
One of the online communities I connect with is centered on the notion of Contemplation and Action. Richard Rohr saw that Activists responding to injustice often fell into the trap of “righteous anger” becoming, if dressed up differently, that which they were against. Richard added the notion of Contemplation as a way of creating space to transform the energy of “righteous anger” to the energy of compassion. That one can be fully engaged in addressing injustice (motion, life) while centered in compassion (stillness, silence, love – the Eternal now from which all things arise and return – my interpretation). The idea of being still within motion, silent within the noise to bring us back to, and keep us in relationship.
Thoughts to ponder.
March 13, 2025 at 12:28 pm #444122anita
ParticipantHi Everyone:
I will be processing, researching, and studying what you wrote here, Peter:
“I feel that for relationship to be strengthened by anger it’s when the energy of anger is dissipated and primary emotion acknowledged. My observation is that it takes time to allow the energy of anger to dissipate before the primary emotion can be felt, acknowledged and addressed… If a relationship becomes stronger after anger, was it anger that was expressed respectfully, or was anger acknowledged, and the primary emotion addressed. I think I’m getting lost in language and the difference doesn’t matter.”
It seems to me that you’re making a distinction between anger and primary emotions. As you likely know, primary emotions are the basic, universal emotions that humans are wired to feel, regardless of culture or upbringing. These include anger, fear, sadness, joy, surprise, and disgust—innate emotions that serve evolutionary purposes. For instance, anger can signal a threat to boundaries or rights, motivating action to protect oneself.
In contrast, secondary emotions are more complex and shaped by individual experiences, beliefs, and cultural factors. These emotions often emerge when we reflect on or interpret primary emotions and include feelings like guilt, shame, envy, and pride. Secondary emotions often build on primary emotions—for example, guilt might stem from sadness about hurting someone.
Anger, while typically considered a primary emotion because of its instinctive and universal nature, can sometimes act as a secondary emotion. For instance, anger might emerge secondarily when deeper emotions like hurt, fear, or shame remain unprocessed. In such cases, anger becomes a reaction to those underlying feelings rather than a direct response to the immediate situation.
Your post touches on this distinction when you mentioned anger potentially masking “primary emotions” like fear or shame. While I agree that anger can sometimes be a cover for deeper feelings, I wonder if you might be dismissing anger when it isn’t secondary—when it is instead a direct and valid response to something significant.
When seen as a primary emotion, anger can serve as a healthy and protective force—one that doesn’t necessarily isolate but can motivate action, reinforce boundaries, and even strengthen relationships. I’d love to hear your thoughts on whether you think there’s a place for viewing anger this way as part of your exploration of its role in relationships and self-awareness.
You mentioned earlier: “I don’t think I can be friends with anger.” Personally, in my evolving understanding, I feel strongly that anger—when it arises as a primary emotion—is my friend. It’s a friend I was estranged from for far too long and one I am actively learning to befriend.
anita
March 13, 2025 at 1:06 pm #444128anita
ParticipantTyping as I think (no editing): I remember very well feeling that “soul anger” early on and for years, anger at having been severely abused on the emotional front, as a child, a teenager and onward, by.. you guessed who. But I never felt comfortable with that valid anger, that valid soul anger.
“How can one feel comfortable with anger? Especially with intense anger?”, a voice in my analytical brain asks?
And of course, I have to answer the voice even before I know the answer: because.. because.. oh, the question was “How?”, not “Why?”. Well.. it’s about being comfortable with experiencing these “hot” emotions (you used the word “hot”, peter). Although I never felt comfortable experiencing “hot emotions” of any kind, well, hardly ever, I believe that it is possible to feel comfortable with feeling hot emotions. It’s possible when there’s no judgment of self attached to the hot emotions.
Befriending my soul anger in regard to my mother’s severe abuse of me means telling this anger: welcome! I am glad you are here. Like a soldier that tried to get my attention all these years, telling me something like: “I am here to protect you! I am here FOR you! I will fight for you!”
Instead of appreciating you, soldier-soul-anger, instead of being grateful to you, I court martialed you!
No, no, no: I was wrong. I am so sorry, soldier-soul-anger. I am sorry I mistreated you. I hear your message now. You cared for me, about me, all along. Thank you, thank you forever more.
anita
March 13, 2025 at 1:59 pm #444133Alessa
ParticipantHi Everyone
I’m glad that you found some of the things I shared interesting and thank you for your kind words Anita. 🙏
There are a lot of interesting points floating around from all parties. 😊
I don’t know if there is a healthy way to express anger to other people. I certainly haven’t found one. At the moment the best I can think of is calmly stating a preference. But it ceases to be about the emotion at that point and it becomes about addressing the underlying need.
In Buddhism, anger is considered to be one of the eight fears that prevents individuals from achieving enlightenment.
The eight fears being:
The flood of attachment, the thieves of wrong views, the lions of pride, the snakes of jealousy, the fire of anger, the carnivorous demon of doubt, the chains of miserliness or greed and the elephant of ignorance.
Sorry, it is really busy at the moment. I don’t have a lot of time to write sadly. I’m enjoying reading everyone’s thoughts and thinking of you all fondly. ❤️
March 13, 2025 at 2:10 pm #444134anita
ParticipantDear Alessa:
Thank you for sharing your thoughts, especially when you’re so busy right now. I always appreciate the wisdom and depth you bring to these discussions. 🙏
I found it thought-provoking how you described calmly stating a preference as a means to handle anger, redirecting attention toward the underlying need.
I hope things ease up for you soon, and just know that your contributions are always valued here. Thinking of you fondly as well! 😊
anita
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