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    Sophie
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    Hello,

    I hope this is okay to post about/ask.

    I grew up with a mother who, I suspect, may have some kind of narcissistic personality disorder. This isn’t diagnosed, but is a conclusion that I’ve come to over a number of years (accepting, though, that I am not a psychiatrist, so can’t be 100% certain – at the very least, she is very emotionally immature/dysregulated), based on things I that I experienced in my childhood, my teenage years and now my adult life. Many of these occurrences still have a profound impact on me today, and I am trying to address this through my own journey with therapy, building myself as a person, etc. To complicate matters, she DOES have an autism diagnosis, so I know that this also impacts her behaviour too in some ways and I am, of course, understanding of this.

    I do believe her autism diagnosis to be correct – and I’m certainly not qualified to say that it’s not -, however, I do also feel she displays some NPD behaviours – for example, she can lie in a very manipulative way and she can be quite abusive if/when you don’t help her in the way she wants to be helped. She also sees me as somewhat of an extension of her/not as an individual person, and I think she lacks any form of empathy at all. Just a few examples.

    When I was younger, she would look at my achievements and compare them to her own, she would blame me for breakdowns in her relationships, she would tell me that I was jealous of her life, and she also made things up (which I think she maybe does believe) about other relatives, which distorted my relationship with them. Our interests were not harnessed, we always came second… and at times she was verbally and, occasionally, physically abusive and volatile.

    The pattern that I have experienced with my Mum is that she bounces from drama to drama – falling out with relatives, neighbours, friends and partners, repeatedly. She will them bombard me with text messages and calls, even when I am at work, which sends me into a total spiral of panic and worry. We grew up in relative poverty, and home was not a good place for me – very volatile and unstable. She had turbulent relationships, I moved schools 6/7 times, we were regularly evicted from our houses and I was always worried about something. I think I am probably what you’d call a ‘parentified’ daughter and, growing up, felt that it was my responsibility to step in to fix things. I still struggle with this instinct now, and feel that whenever something bad happens to my Mum, it is my responsibility to fix it (even though the logical part of my brain knows that this isn’t true). To complicate matters, I am the only one of my siblings who still has any contact with my Mum and so, when things do kick off, I feel the responsibility to fix often rests solely with me.

    She never asks me about myself, and I think our relationship is purely functional – I only really exist when I am helping to fix a problem in some way.

    Anyway, following on from a recent outburst/incident involving three of her neighbours (I had to step in to speak with her landlord/write letters to all neighbours), I’ve reached a bit of a cross roads in my life where I just can’t carry on functioning like this anymore. I am in my mid-30s, I feel like I have no sense of self, no identity of my own, I don’t know what my hobbies are, and I don’t trust myself or my feelings at all. I am a people pleaser, afraid of conflict, always apologising, always on high alert. I don’t believe I am worthy of nice things, or that I can achieve anything or amount to anything.

    I feel like I am regularly and wholly consumed by my Mum’s life. This latest incident caused me to need to take 3-weeks off of work, and my Dr had to prescribe me with Valium to help me to manage my levels of stress because I would wake up with a trembling body and crushing sense of anxiety. This is a repeat cycle (and has become even more prevalent in my adult life), something will happen in her life, I feel like I need to swoop in and deal with it (mostly because she bombards me with messages, etc), and then I end up so stressed that I become unwell (physically and mentally) – meanwhile, she will then be completely fine after a week or so, before moving on to the next thing and we start the whole cycle again. My whole life has been like this; recently I started having intrusive thoughts caused by the stress, which really scared me. I knew I would never end my own life, but I just wanted things to stop and I couldn’t see any other way out.

    It’s gotten to the point now where it is also starting to affect my relationship with my husband and I am terrified that I will lose him. He is such a kind person – my safe space and someone who I trust completely. He says he feels like I disappear into a black hole for weeks on end, before re-emerging. I feel this too – like I am not present in my own life, which doesn’t feel fair to me, or to my husband. I just disappear and forget how to live my own life, nurture myself and my relationship.

    Everything that I have read about narcissists, and in particularly NParents, suggests that the best approach is no-contact. I don’t, however, feel like I am in a position to cut off contact with my Mum – I also think the worry I’d have about her would outweigh the benefits of this. Whenever I try to go no/have less contact, I inevitably cave, feel guilty/like a bad daughter, worry, etc. Particularly, also, because she does have an autism diagnosis…it’s hard to know where to draw the line and what my boundaries are in terms of her behaviour. What’s the autism, what’s the narcissism?

    My question is, HOW, can I prioritise myself, build myself up, and nurture my relationship with my husband, without neglecting my Mum? Or is it okay to step away? I do feel that I need to start removing myself from being so invested in her life; but how can I free myself from the guilt of this? I know that it’s not my job to parent her, but I feel like I have been conditioned my whole life to believe that she is a victim and that I am responsible for what happens to her – whether she has done this intentionally or not. I also do want her to be okay.

    But I also want myself to be okay, and I don’t think it’s okay that I sacrifice my own life for someone else – particularly when they often won’t help themselves and actively go out of their way to antagonise situations/people sometimes.

    I’ve started putting some practical things in place – for example, referring her to adult social services/mental health services for proper support, getting her welfare assessment so that she might be able to move to more suitable housing. My hope is that by handing over to appropriate services, I can take a step back and be less involved. It’s taking time to get this all sorted, not something I am an expert in – and I am doing it without any help from other family members, etc.

    I don’t want to lose my relationship with my husband, and I also don’t want to lose or neglect myself any further in the process. Looking back on my life and how I behave now, I do think that I have been a victim of emotional abuse…how do I find the strength to put myself first when it’s not something I’ve ever done before? What does that even look like in reality? Sometimes I just feel like a passenger in my own life, and I worry that one day I’ll look back and realise all I ever did was facilitate/try to help my Mum, rather than going out there and living my own life.

    Any thoughts much appreciated. This post is a bit rambly because I find it hard to get all my thoughts around this out in a coherent way – it’s just a big jumble in my brain at the moment.

    Thank you :).

    #446388
    anita
    Participant

    Dear Sophie:

    It is absolutely okay to post here and at any length

    I am using my phone, so this will be short.

    First, I wanted to say, as I read your post, I felt that I was reading my own words. The way you express yourself and the content is very familiar to me. My mother was similar to yours.

    By the way, did you think of her as fitting the Histrionic Personality Disorder diagnosis as well?

    I think that referring her to adult social services resources and having no contact with her is the solution. for your sake and for your husband’s.

    As far as you expecting overwhelming guilt, consider this: she doesn’t experience empathy you said that much. What it means is that she will not be losing a person she loves.she won’t have a broken heart. In other words, it won’t be a big deal to her (outside some drama to follow),

    What do you think. Sophie?

    Anita

    #446389
    anita
    Participant

    Dear Sophie:

    First part of my post, about what you shared- your words paint a clear picture of enmeshment—a lifelong pattern where your mother’s emotional and practical needs have consumed your own, leaving little room for personal identity and autonomy. From childhood, you were placed in a parentified role, carrying responsibilities far beyond what was appropriate, shaping your instinct to fix and rescue her, even at the cost of your own well-being.

    This enmeshment has led to a diminished sense of self, where your own identity, desires, and ambitions feel secondary—almost nonexistent—next to the constant demands of managing your mother’s crises. Your life has often been dictated by her cycles of conflict and instability, leaving you feeling like a passenger in your own journey, always on high alert, always prioritizing her needs over your own.

    The emotional weight of this has seeped into every part of your life, including your marriage, where your husband notices how you disappear into your mother’s dramas for weeks at a time. You recognize that this dynamic is unsustainable, yet the guilt of stepping away—paired with deep conditioning that you are responsible for her well-being—makes setting boundaries incredibly difficult.

    Second part, about your mother (and I am not a professional either, so not diagnosing)- you described her as manipulative, lacking empathy, and seeing you as an extension of herself—which are common traits of narcissistic personality disorder. Her intense emotional instability, volatile relationships, and impulsive behaviors could align with borderline personality traits. People with BPD often experience rapid mood swings, fear of abandonment, and difficulty regulating emotions, which could explain your mother’s frequent conflicts and emotional outbursts.

    She may suffer from traits of histrionic personality disorder as well. People with HPD often struggle with emotional regulation, have rapidly shifting emotions, and may exaggerate situations to gain attention.

    Comorbidity of personality disorders is common.

    Her autism diagnosis can contribute to emotional dysregulation and difficulty with social interactions. Some behaviors you described—such as rigid thinking, difficulty understanding others’ emotions, and intense reactions to stress—could stem from autism-related challenges rather than a personality disorder.

    Third part of this post- you mentioned that your mother lacks empathy. If she truly does not feel empathy for others, including yourself, then it’s likely that she won’t suffer from the loss of contact in the way a deeply empathetic person would. Instead of feeling heartbreak or loss, she may react with anger, frustration, or dramatic behaviors over the loss of control over you.

    I know you care about your mother and are struggling with strong emotional conditioning, so me stating in my first reply that your mother won’t be deeply affected might have felt unsettling rather than reassuring, as in conflicting with your lifelong investment in her, and thinking perhaps that she will be devastated if you step away..?

    I hope to read back from you, Sophie and develop this into a conversation with you.

    I’ll close with this: your growing awareness of these patterns, along with the steps you’re taking to involve social services, suggest that you want to reclaim your life while maintaining compassion for your mother. The struggle now is finding the strength to prioritize yourself without drowning in guilt, redefining what self-care looks like, and building trust in your own needs, desires, and autonomy.

    You deserve to be present in your own life, not just as a caretaker or problem-solver for someone else. The process of stepping back will take time, but even recognizing the need for change is a powerful first step.

    anita

    #446390
    anita
    Participant

    I should add a bit about my personal experience, Sophie:

    My mother fit the combo of Paranoid Personality Disorder (PPD), Borderline Personality Disorder (BPD), and Histrionic Personality Disorder), with a touch of other personality disorders.

    I was very, very, very enmeshed with her- way past childhood.

    I would say the vast majority of my adulthood was taken over by what she meant to me, in my mind, E V E R Y T H I N G.

    There was nothing I wouldn’t have done for her, if I could, and I did all that my diminished-self was able to do for her.

    Emotionally, she was my child, and I was her mother (I was indeed a parentified child).

    When I finally cut contact with her (I was fifty years old), I thought she would fall apart, that she would collapse, that she would seek me out, that she couldn’t live without me. I projected my love for into her: it was me who couldn’t live without her.

    To my surprise, she sent me one card following my decision, and that is all.

    I didn’t mean that much to her because she wasn’t able to .. love me.

    I mean, she didn’t even see me. How could she love me if she didn’t even notice me as a person, as an entity separate from her, as not an extension of her. She wasn’t able. She was too sick. And there was nothing I could have ever done to change this sad, very sad fact.

    As an adult, I felt like a ship in a stormy sea, not able to guide my way, a subject to the wind, any which way the wind would take me.

    When asked in an ice cream shop which ice cream flavor I would like, I couldn’t answer. I didn’t know. My identity was that diminished.

    This is what a dominant, loud, personality-disordered mother would do to you.

    I’ve been on the healing path since sometime after I cut contact with her and I am very happy that I am on this path still.

    anita

    #446391
    Alessa
    Participant

    Hi Sophie

    I’m sorry to hear about all of the difficulties with your mother. These things aren’t easy.

    It sounds like you’re doing the right thing referring her to professional support.

    If it helps any, she may actually gain some self-sufficiency by you stepping back from helping her all the time. I used to help out similarly for a family member who also has autism, but now I take a less involved role.

    I realised that my helping out was from conditioning with my own childhood difficulties. I was trying to manage the person’s mood because I was uncomfortable with the person being in a bad mood.

    It might be helpful to reflect and dig deeper into some of the reasons you feel a need to help her so much. Your reasoning might be different from my own.

    Stepping back from managing someone else’s dysregulation allowed them to take a more active role in managing their own dysregulation.

    I do still care, but I don’t overload myself with it anymore. It is important to prioritise managing your own emotional regulation. How will she learn if you don’t model the behaviour she needs to learn? But more importantly, you deserve to be happy and enjoy the relationship with your husband! ❤️

    I also had to work on evening out the relationship, so it felt less one sided to me.

    Have you considered therapy for yourself? You’re dealing with a lot with the childhood trauma and caregiver burnout.

    Clearly you’re a very empathetic and caring person. I can understand your desire to stay in contact with her.

    It took some time to get here, but things are in a more positive place now.

    It sounds like you are ready to make these changes and definitely need them for your own wellbeing. I wish you a lot of luck in the process!

    Please don’t feel guilty for taking care of yourself and putting your needs first. You deserve it and you cannot help anyone else if you don’t take care of yourself first. ❤️

    I’d love to hear your thoughts. Please feel free to write about anything!

    #446392
    Alessa
    Participant

    Additional thoughts. I noticed that she has only been diagnosed with autism. If she is willing it might be helpful to arrange some mental health support for her too. People with autism are prone to mental health issues as well. If she had appropriate treatment for whatever else might be going on, it might make things a little easier?

    #446395
    Sophie
    Participant

    Hi Anita and Alessa,

    Thank you both very much for your responses, and for reading my post.

    Thank you both you for sharing your experiences. I hope that my post was not too re-triggering or traumatic for you, and I appreciate you sharing your experiences and I’m really glad that you’re on your own healing paths now.

    I feel like it’s taken me a really long time to get to this point of even considering that things can’t carry on as they are, or waking up to the reality of the situation. Previously, when things would happen, I would always make excuses for my involvement – telling myself that my Mum is vulnerable, could be easily taken advantage of, needs my protection, etc. I think I am slowly realising that this isn’t the case. And, if it is the case, it’s not my job to do this.

    She’s done and said some really awful things to me over the years.

    Where it finally hit me, during the most recent occasion, was that – I had helped her to resolve some conflict that she had been experiencing with her neighbours. We had gotten to the stage where the neighbours had agreed to contact me if there were any further issues, everything was okay – Mum was asked not to interact directly with them – and they were asked not to interact directly with her. Everyone agreed to this. Mum caught wind that one of her neighbours had emailed me, and she instigated a huge argument with them (despite them having been asked to reach out to me if any problems). The part that upset me was, when I was speaking to my Mum about it… I realised that she was actively lying to me on the phone about what had happened. She wouldn’t give me any straight answers, she kept changing her story and then when I asked her directly, she just glitched and said she didn’t want to talk about it anymore and put them phone down (despite having called me!)… and I suddenly just had this huge realisation (maybe a re-affirming of something I’ve always known!), that she lies to manipulate me into feeling a certain way and then draws me back in to helping her, but that when I push back, I am no use. It was like a lightbulb moment.

    I also think she weaponises her autism when she wants to get me to do something/feel a certain way because she will frequently say things to me like: “I can’t lie because I am autistic.” or “Autistic people are incapable of lying.” I am not enough of an expert in neurodivergence to know whether or not this is the case, but I don’t think it’s true that people with autism are incapable of lying – maybe just that they would be less likely to do so as they wouldn’t understand why it was necessary to lie? (I’m also very conscious not to make general assumptions or statements about people with ASD as I know neurodivergence manifests differently for different people and, again, it’s not my area of expertise at all so I don’t want to sound like I am making any sweeping judgements.)

    I think, for me, the nail in the coffin – this time – has been that my Mother has started reaching out to my husband directly, to tell him about things that have happened to her, asking him to intervene and support her in ways that I do not feel are appropriate at all and it’s been making me deeply uncomfortable. I’m also not comfortable with her feeling like my husband is accessible to her in this way… it’s just made me feel really weird and uneasy. Like, she was trying to take control of him and use him/our relationship as an extension of her too. The penny dropped – I don’t want my husband sucked into her vortex in any capacity, and any more than he already has been… so from here, I’ve decided that enough is enough and I really need to get a grip on this for the sake of my relationship, and for myself. I’ve asked him not to have any contact with her from now on (he is the kindest and most supportive person ever and I feel so lucky to have found him).

    When I think about having no contact myself, where I always fall down is – not so much that I feel guilt that she would be sad about this, because I truthfully don’t think she would be upset in that way, because I just don’t think she’s capable of it, – it’s more the conditioning that, if something happens to her, it would be my fault or responsibility. That’s what I struggle to make peace with. I just have this little nagging voice in my head that’s constantly saying, ‘she’s in danger, if you don’t step in… something terrible will happen. She’ll die and it’ll be your fault’.

    Additionally, there is a part of my brain that tells me that – if her behaviour is caused by her autism (I think aspects are/aspects aren’t), then that’s not her fault and so surely I should be more understanding and accommodating of this (though, I do think I’ve been as understanding as any person can be). Equally, if it is some kind of personality disorder…should I not be understanding of this too, because that’s also not her fault? Her brain is wired differently. But then I still end up abused – so, in either case, the outcome and the impact on me is the same. I go round and round in circles.

    Also, truthfully, there is still the little inner child part of me that desperately wants a mother. Looking back, I think I got myself into this pattern of… if I just fix this one thing (and it was always one more thing), then MAYBE, just MAYBE, we can have a ‘normal’ mother/daughter relationship and everything will be okay. But, I’ve come to realise, there is never just one more thing, because I help to fix said thing and then, before you know it, a new drama, a new conflict has appeared. It is exhausting and quite sad – definitely a kind of grief for a relationship that can never exist. And, with your mother of all people, it’s just very sad.

    Therapy-wise: YES, absolutely I need therapy 100%. I had been having therapy for the past year, however, my husband sadly lost his job in December 2024 so I had to stop for financial reasons. He now has a new job (phew!) and our mortgage costs are due to decrease in December, so I am planning to go back to it then. I did find it really helpful (though it was very Freud-based so I am not completely sure if it was the right style for me), and it helped me to gain a lot of perspective on the situation. I think, with all the trauma I have been through… it’s essential that I go to therapy. But, until December, I have to try to manage on my own which is the scary part! I really don’t know if I am strong enough. I wish I had a blueprint or a spreadsheet that I could follow!

    Something you said in your reply, Anita, really struck me: “When asked in an ice cream shop which ice cream flavor I would like, I couldn’t answer. I didn’t know. My identity was that diminished.” THIS – absolutely this. I used to discuss in my therapy that, sometimes, I would be physically unwell – and I would worry that my manager at work wouldn’t believe me if I called in sick, or that I was actually making it up, because I was so used to having my own feelings and needs minimised, that I couldn’t even trust myself to know and accept when I was actually physically ill.

    I can’t tell you what I like. I don’t have hobbies…I feel that there’s nothing too me. I’m just a husk, at the moment, with no personality or life of my own.

    Thank you for this, too: “I’ll close with this: your growing awareness of these patterns, along with the steps you’re taking to involve social services, suggest that you want to reclaim your life while maintaining compassion for your mother. The struggle now is finding the strength to prioritize yourself without drowning in guilt, redefining what self-care looks like, and building trust in your own needs, desires, and autonomy.

    You deserve to be present in your own life, not just as a caretaker or problem-solver for someone else. The process of stepping back will take time, but even recognizing the need for change is a powerful first step.”

    This is the point I’ve reached now, I just have to find the strength to see this through and to prioritise myself. Truthfully, I don’t know if I can do it… or where even to begin. But I desperately want to try.

    Aside from putting in place practical measures/services to support my mother, I have also joined the gym and have decided I want to just try and make time for myself to do ONE THING just for myself, every week. Alongside this, I need/want to find a way to limit or manage contact so that my days aren’t interrupted by whatever is going on in her life. Added complication for me is that I have ADHD (only recently diagnosed), so I do get overwhelmed very easily, but my medication does help with this and I think it’s given me a lot more clarity.

    Thank you all for reading and for your help and comments so far. It’s useful to know that others have gone through similar experiences, and that it’s possible (if challenging) to come out the other side.

    Thank you :).
    Sophie

    #446396
    Sophie
    Participant

    Maybe the inevitable outcome is no contact. I don’t think I am there, yet, or that I can be until I know everything is in place for her to be okay.

    So I need to try to reach a point of limited, minimal and managed contact in the meantime.

    Presence in my own life. I hope I can do it.

    #446397
    Alessa
    Participant

    Hi Sophie

    I can assure you that it is possible for autists to lie. They do have tendencies to lie for specific reasons. To hide mistakes, to benefit others, to avoid negative situations or to be accepted.

    I’m autistic myself and many of my friends and family are also autistic.

    I’m sorry that you never had the mother you needed and suffered at the hands of the one you had. It isn’t easy when the child is more capable than the parent.

    I’m glad to hear that your husband has started a new job and you will be able to go to therapy again later when the bills calm down. Please feel free to express yourself here. Some people also find AI helpful to talk to as well. ChatGPT, Copilot, Gemini and the like.

    Unpicking the difficulties of autistic meltdowns from abuse is not easy. I’ve just started researching that myself. What I’ve learned so far:

    A brief summary of the difference is that triggers usually occur before a meltdown. These could be emotional, stress, pain, sensory, sleep deprivation, hunger etc. The individual is not in full control when experiencing a meltdown and different autists have different skills when it comes to regulating their emotions.

    Whereas abuse occurs in a deliberately harmful manner and may be focused around an individual’s desires.

    Unfortunately, both experiences can still be harmful to the people around them if they are not equipped to manage emotional meltdowns and don’t understand the difference. Not very helpful when you’re on the receiving end of things.

    Feeling responsible for her makes sense. She doesn’t seem particularly capable.

    There are different personalities that people have with autism and she seems to have one of the more troublesome ones that causes a lot of conflict with others. That cannot be easy to have grown up with or deal with now. I know people who have similar issues and it is a very stressful way to live.

    I can believe when you say that she has done horrible things to you. Sadly. I’m so sorry your mother has treat you in this way.

    There was a family member that my therapist made recommendations to treat as though she were ill and have no expectations of them as a result of their issues. It is not easy to care about someone like that. Doing your best to have a minimal role in her life sounds like a smart choice, one that I also took.

    #446404
    anita
    Participant

    Dear Sophie:

    Vanilla ice cream with hot, melted chocolate on top—I know for sure now. See? Healing is possible!

    You and I, and our mothers, share much in common. If our discussion is helpful to you, we can continue for as long as you’d like. There are members in these forums with whom I’ve communicated regularly for months, and with some, on and off, for years.

    I’d like to reply to you in this post by quoting parts of what you’ve shared, responding to each, then quoting again, and so on, starting with your initial post. I imagine this post will end up being quite long.

    “I grew up with a mother”- I didn’t truly grow up or outward. Instead, I grew inward, hiding within. My identity remained hidden, unknown, lacking the safe and loving environment it needed to develop.

    She, my mother, was too volatile, too unpredictable, accusatory, aggressive. I was scared. I froze and remained frozen for a long, long time.

    “To complicate matters, she DOES have an autism diagnosis”-

    From So Special Too/ autism and motherhood: “Autistic individuals often experience sensory sensitivities, social difficulties, and heightened emotional responses, which can affect how they interact with their children and handle the everyday demands of parenting… Despite these challenges, autistic moms bring unique strengths to their parenting. Their heightened attention to detail and deep empathy often translate into an ability to tune into their children’s needs profoundly and meaningfully…

    “Autistic mothers tend to be incredibly focused, attentive, and dedicated to ensuring their children’s well-being. Because they may see the world differently, they often approach parenting from a fresh perspective, emphasizing structure and predictability—traits that can be beneficial for a child’s development.. Their heightened empathy often means they understand their children’s needs even without words. The analytical thinking that comes with autism may also make them excellent problem-solvers when faced with parenting challenges.”

    Back to your initial post, Sophie: “she lacks any form of empathy at all.”- this contrasts with the above. lack of empathy is not a characteristic of people on the autistic spectrum.

    “When I was younger, she would look at my achievements and compare them to her own, she would blame me for breakdowns in her relationships, she would tell me that I was jealous of her life”- these behaviors are not characteristics of autism. Autistic individuals may struggle with understanding social cues, expressing emotions conventionally, or adapting to changes, but these traits do not lead to the kind of behaviors you described, Sophie.

    However, narcissistic tendencies or unresolved emotional struggles—could contribute to such behaviors. While autistic mothers may face unique parenting challenges, they often exhibit deep care and commitment to their children, even if their expressions of love differ from neurotypical norms.

    “The pattern that I have experienced with my Mum is that she bounces from drama to drama – falling out with relatives, neighbours, friends and partners, repeatedly.”-

    Again, While autistic mothers may have unique parenting styles, While autism can affect emotional expression and social interactions, they typically do not exhibit manipulative or self-centered behaviors as a defining trait.

    Some personality disorders that could align with the behaviors you mentioned include:

    * Narcissistic Personality Disorder (NPD) – Characterized by a grandiose sense of self-importance, a need for admiration, and a lack of empathy. Individuals with NPD may compare themselves to others, blame others for their problems, and struggle with emotional reciprocity.

    * Borderline Personality Disorder (BPD) – Marked by intense emotional instability, fear of abandonment, and difficulty maintaining relationships. Some individuals with BPD may blame others for relationship breakdowns or struggle with self-image.

    * Histrionic Personality Disorder (HPD) – Involves excessive attention-seeking behavior, emotional overreaction, and a strong desire for validation. People with HPD may feel threatened by others’ achievements and seek to maintain control over relationships.

    “I am the only one of my siblings who still has any contact with my Mum”- I suppose they’ve given up on her—but you haven’t. Maybe they find comfort in knowing she has you, allowing them to step away from her life.

    “I only really exist when I am helping to fix a problem in some way.”- This is your identity—her helper, the fixer of her problems. If you were to cut contact with her, you would lose this part of yourself.

    “I am in my mid-30s, I feel like I have no sense of self, no identity of my own, I don’t know what my hobbies are, and I don’t trust myself or my feelings at all.”- With so little sense of identity, letting go of the part that does exist—being the fixer of your mother’s problems—would be especially difficult.

    “He is such a kind person – my safe space and someone who I trust completely.”- I wish you would shift your loyalty—from the person who provided you with an unsafe place and is not worthy of your trust (your mother)—to someone who does offer you a safe place and is truly deserving of your trust.

    “He says he feels like I disappear into a black hole for weeks on end, before re-emerging.”- Your mother creates and recreates these black holes for you, overwhelming you emotionally and leading you to withdraw in an effort to protect yourself from emotional collapse.

    “Whenever I try to go no/have less contact, I inevitably cave, feel guilty/like a bad daughter, worry, etc. Particularly, also, because she does have an autism diagnosis… What’s the autism, what’s the narcissism?”-

    it is possible for someone to be falsely diagnosed with autism, as autism spectrum disorder (ASD) shares overlapping traits with other conditions, including personality disorders, ADHD, and anxiety disorders. Misdiagnosis can occur due to the complexity of autism and the lack of a definitive medical test.

    I am reading that In the UK, autism diagnoses have increased significantly, with a 787% rise between 1998 and 2018. While this suggests better awareness, it also raises concerns about potential overdiagnosis.

    In general, mental health misdiagnosis is surprisingly common, with studies estimating that up to 66% of patients with certain conditions are initially misdiagnosed.

    “I have been conditioned my whole life to believe that she is a victim and that I am responsible for what happens to her”- In reality, you have been her victim, and she is fully responsible for having victimized you.

    “I also do want her to be okay. But I also want myself to be okay”- but she isn’t okay, is she?

    * You wrote earlier in your initial post: “I become unwell (physically and mentally) – meanwhile, she will then be completely fine after a week or so, before moving on to the next thing and we start the whole cycle again.”- meaning, she is okay before she is yet again not okay.

    This reminds me of my mother—she would temporarily unload her angst, hurt, shame, and anger onto me, finding brief relief. But each time, those feelings returned, and she had to do it again, perpetuating the cycle.

    “I don’t think it’s okay that I sacrifice my own life for someone else”- for someone else’s temporary relief.

    “how do I find the strength to put myself first when it’s not something I’ve ever done before?”- I believe it comes down to identity—what you, Sophie, truly value. If justice is something you hold deeply, it could become a defining part of who you are, replacing the role you’ve played until now as the temporary fixer of your mother’s problems.

    Justice would mean no longer sacrificing your own life to provide fleeting relief for someone who has repeatedly mistreated you.

    “Sometimes I just feel like a passenger in my own life”- I’ve often felt like a passenger in my own life, drifting without control. I keep picturing myself moving to the driver’s seat, finally taking charge.

    I will continue with your second post next.

    anita

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    Continued:

    “telling myself that my Mum is vulnerable, could be easily taken advantage of, needs my protection”- You are vulnerable and have been easily taken advantage of by your mother. You need protection from her.

    “I realised that she was actively lying to me… she lies to manipulate me”- Here’s another suggestion for rebuilding your identity—root it in honesty, straightforwardness, and justice. Let these values guide you, leading you to distance yourself from those who are persistently dishonest and manipulative.

    “I also think she weaponises her autism when she wants to get me to do something”- if her autism diagnosis is correct, then the part of her that weaponizes it against you is not the autistic part.

    A mother should protect and nurture her daughter, not use emotional weapons against her. Parenthood should be built on care and support, not manipulation or control.

    “I think, for me, the nail in the coffin – this time – has been that my Mother has started reaching out to my husband directly.. I don’t want my husband sucked into her vortex”- seems like she’s trying to pull him into the same dynamic, extending her reach beyond just you. I am guessing that if you had children, she would try to pull them too into the same dynamic.

    “When I think about having no contact myself, where I always fall down is – not so much that I feel guilt that she would be sad about this, because I truthfully don’t think she would be upset in that way, because I just don’t think she’s capable of it – it’s more the conditioning that, if something happens to her, it would be my fault or responsibility. That’s what I struggle to make peace with. I just have this little nagging voice in my head that’s constantly saying, ‘she’s in danger, if you don’t step in… something terrible will happen. She’ll die and it’ll be your fault’.”-

    I, too, was terrified as a child that my mother would die. I saw how fragile and needy she was, and I feared for her. She spoke of suicide—describing how she would end her life—forcing me to carry the weight of that fear.

    A child needs a strong, stable parent. When a parent is too weak and suicidal, it becomes deeply traumatic for the child, who, in an attempt to cope, takes on a parentified role—constantly trying to support, protect, and strengthen the parent, hoping that one day, the parent will finally be able to care for the child in return.

    It’s interesting how, even as adults, we continue to operate from that perspective—still waiting for the parent to become the parent they never were.

    “There is a part of my brain that tells me that – if her behaviour is caused by her autism… then that’s not her fault and so surely I should be more understanding and accommodating… Equally, if it is some kind of personality disorder…should I not be understanding of this too, because that’s also not her fault?”-

    I don’t believe your mother behaves the same way with everyone in every circumstance. It seems she takes advantage of those she perceives as weak and accommodating, while withdrawing from those she views as strong and self-assured. If that’s the case, then her behavior isn’t entirely beyond her control—there is an element of choice. Unlike a psychotic episode, which removes a person’s ability to make rational decisions, a personality disorder may still allow for selective behavior, particularly when it benefits the individual.

    Hold your mother accountable—not for her emotions, but for the choices she makes in how she treats you and others.

    “Also, truthfully, there is still the little inner child part of me that desperately wants a mother. Looking back, I think I got myself into this pattern of.. if I just fix this one thing (and it was always one more thing), then MAYBE, just MAYBE, we can have a ‘normal’ mother/daughter relationship and everything will be okay.”-

    It will take grieving the reality that you never had—and never will have—the mother you needed in her. Only through this acceptance can the longing begin to quiet, freeing you from chasing someone who was never truly there.

    This kind of grief isn’t easy, but it is necessary. In letting go of the hope for a relationship that cannot be, you create space to nurture yourself in the way you always deserved.

    * I wrote the above before I even read your words: “definitely a kind of grief for a relationship that can never exist.”

    “sometimes, I would be physically unwell – and I would worry that my manager at work wouldn’t believe me if I called in sick, or that I was actually making it up, because I was so used to having my own feelings and needs minimised, that I couldn’t even trust myself to know and accept when I was actually physically ill.”-

    Same here—I used to second-guess my own reality constantly. Only recently have I started trusting my understanding of myself and my life more and more. The difference in my mental state is profound, to say the least.

    “I just have to find the strength to see this through and to prioritise myself. Truthfully, I don’t know if I can do it… or where even to begin. But I desperately want to try.”-

    Think of prioritizing your values as the first step—honesty, straightforwardness, and justice. Let these principles guide you as you begin choosing yourself.

    “Added complication for me is that I have ADHD”- me too, similar responses to similar mothers, I think.

    “Maybe the inevitable outcome is no contact. I don’t think I am there, yet, or that I can be until I know everything is in place for her to be okay.”-

    I think her ‘not being okay’ is, consciously or not, a way to keep control over you—to keep you attached and under her influence. She may be continuing behaviors that work for her, even if she isn’t fully aware of it.

    Ironically, I believe there’s a greater chance for her to be as ‘okay’ as possible if you choose to cut contact. In stepping away, you free both of you from this unhealthy dynamic—giving her the space to navigate her own life without relying on you as a constant emotional crutch.

    Can you imagine, Sophie, that ending contact with her might be the right choice—not just for your own well-being, but for hers as well?

    anita

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