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    James123
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    Right now, what you call “i” is not present. The body writes, laughs, talks, and smiles, yet the “me” or the mind is completely in deep sleep. The mind is asleep, but the so called eyes or consciousness, though there is no one to name it are still perceiving.

    This is total giving up. No “me” arises.

    In truth, there is no action. Self is only still, unmoving, untouched, the silent witness in which all unfolds, while the body moves, laughs, and accepts, yet not through me. Self is only still, unmoving, untouched, the silent witness in which all unfolds.

    Is there anything above this? Actually, no. Because the asker itself was the body and mind. When they vanish, there is no one left to ascend, to seek, or to know.

    Only the moment, fully, effortlessly, completely.

    Self is only still.

    #449014
    Peter
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    Hi James Thanks for sharing

    The eyes see, the ears hear. The mouth speaks, the nose smells. That is all.”

    Zen enriches no one… When they are gone, the ‘nothing,’ the ‘no-body’ that was there, suddenly appears. That is Zen” – Thomas Merton

    Yet

    As long as this “brokenness” of existence continues, there is no way out of the inner contradictions that it imposes upon us. If a man has a broken leg and continues to try to walk on it, he cannot help suffering. If desire itself is a kind of fracture, every movement of desire inevitably results in pain. But even the desire to end the pain of desire is a movement, and therefore causes pain. The desire to remain immobile is a movement. The desire to escape is a movement. The desire for Nirvana is a movement. The desire for extinction is a movement. Yet there is no way for us to be still by “imposing stillness” on the desires. In a word, desire cannot stop itself from desiring, and it must continue to move and hence to cause pain even when it seeks liberation from itself and desires its own extinction.” ― Thomas Merton, Zen and the Birds of Appetite

    A seeming contrast between stillness and motion though Zen would avoid such measures…
    Still I’ve wondered of the experience of Stillness as we sit on a rock spinning through space. Stillness in Motion…

    We sit on a rock spinning through space, the earth moves, the stars drift,
    and yet…
    the eyes see, the ears hear.
    The still point is not in the world, but in the seeing.

    Stillness is not the absence of motion, but the absence of grasping?

    #449017
    James123
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    Hey Peter.

    Thank youvery much. Anytime.

    Desire, expectation, and wanting belong to the ego, which is nothing but an accumulation of thoughts. Nirvana is simply the dropping of all of them.

    When this happens, only pure consciousness remains, just as before physical birth, in deep sleep, or after death.

    In this recognition, it becomes clear that nothing has ever truly happened.

    Yet the body and universe still appear. If the leg breaks, there is pain, but it belongs to no one—therefore, there is no suffering. The body is a perfectly functioning system: the breath flows on its own, the heart beats on its own, and the mind is astonishingly intelligent. All these systems harmonize effortlessly, with no need for interference.

    Thus, consciousness, what you truly are—simply watches life through the body, like watching a film, knowing that the film itself is also made of consciousness.

    Stillness is the absence of mental chatter—the ever-present silence, untouched and eternal.

    Therefore, Stillness is the end of grasping. Grasping means reaching, clinging, holding to thought, desire, fear, or hope. When the grasp relaxes, mind becomes quiet, like an open hand.

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