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October 8, 2025 at 11:42 am in reply to: A.N.G.E.R (trigger warning, child abuse material is included) #450708
anitaParticipantHello Everyone-
Continued:
My childhood experience resulted in the perception that I was Alone, one separated and removed from everyone else.
All Alone.
A long, long.. long Alone experience, eternal, so it felt.
Year after year, decade after decade.. an eternal, never ending string of long, too long moments, days, eternally stretched seconds of Aloneness.
This is the pain, that Never-Ending Aloneness (NEA).
And in that NEA, there was Anger (A.N.G.E.R) as strong as the desire to be Together.. to no longer be Alone.
This is why I find healing in these public forums. As I am typing this, I know someone is reading, and so, I am not Alone.
You are reading!
You are important to me because with you here: I am not Alone.
Please tell me about you, if you are reading, if I never heard from you..
Tell me about you..?
Seeking connection.
๐ฟ ๐ค Anita
anitaParticipantYou are welcome, Tom!
“I will do my best and at the end of the day, that is all I can do.”-
I will add to the above: sincerely, Tom:
Your best is good enough. Please let this truth sink in ๐ก
๐ฟ ๐ค Anita
anitaParticipantHello Dear Q ๐,
“close the door”-
Close the door on what? (If you can type away whatever comes to your mind..?)
๐ค๐ฟ Anita
anitaParticipantDear Going Through Life:
Thank you for letting me know.. no mention, promise!
I just feel grateful for this precious opportunity to go Through Life alongside you ๐๐ค
About my life.. there are quite a few threads I started here in the forums where I shared about my life. I’d say my life is quite emotional.. a journey of healing and becoming more and more the person I want to be: attuned, caring, relational, healed in places I need healing.
๐ค๐ฟ Anita
anitaParticipantHi Everyone:
Thank you, James ๐๐ค๐
Dear Thomas:
I appreciate your thoughts and agree with lots of them. I particularly feel positively about you idea that people in trauma are often trying to reclaim their sense of self, not dissolve it.
For trauma survivors, the loss of self isnโt liberationโitโs fragmentation. Healing often requires reclaiming the self, not dissolving it.
I like you advocating for compassionate presence, especially in trauma recovery, and expressing that wisdom without compassion is alienating; it doesnโt help those in pain.
I also very much like your idea that real spirituality is about meeting people where they are, not speaking from a mountaintop, and that truth must be communicated in ways people can understand. Helping others means coming down from the mountain, seeing them eye to eye.
I particularly like what you wrote here: “Here, people are looking for a safe space to vent their lives and feel alive againโฆ I ask that you bring your wisdom down to those who need the help.โ.
Overall, I am truly, positively impressed with your input, Thomas ๐๐ค๐.
Having said the above, your delivery has been confrontational and your tone carried an aggressive edge at times, beginning with your 3rd and 4th sentence on this thread (Oct 4): “Cause arenโt you preaching your knowledge. Could ask what are you selling??”- that’s confrontational/ accusatory, implying that James is pushing an agenda rather than sharing sincerely.
I am not one to judge on the matter of aggressive tone, Thomas, because there’s been plenty of aggressive edge in my deliveries. I am working on that edge currently in my own thread (appropriately titled “A.N.G.E.R…”) So, trust me: I am not trying to shame you.. just saying that gentler delivery on both of our parts is wise.. and compassionate.
๐ค๐ฟ Anita
anitaParticipantDear Thomas: I would like to respond to your most recent post of.. exactly 20 minutes ago- tomorrow morning ๐
Anita
anitaParticipantI will get back to you, Going Through Life, Wed morning- Tues evening here, yet it feels like night time (8:16 pm here). Back to you in the morning!
anitaParticipantDear Going Through Life:
“she never showed me remorse, never showed she loves me… just miss her and our time together”-
In your time together… she never showed she loved you.. ?
๐ค๐ฟ Anita
anitaParticipantHello Dear Q:
I am well and even better for reading from you this Tues evening (here).
“So I have no idea where to go from here hahaha.”- one step at a time, being honest with yourself and with everyone else.. one hour, one day at a time?
๐ค๐ฟ Anita
anitaParticipantDear Going Through Life:
I am so sorry that you are hurting ๐
“sheโs easily getting physical with someone else, someone who doesnโt even love her.”-
Do you love her enough to forgive her if she sincerely regrets it, if she was confused and troubled and feeling so alone at the time..?
๐ค๐ฟ Anita
anitaParticipantDear James:
You offered me grace 3 hours ago, not something I necessarily deserve, but something you offered me anyway.
This is what grace is about, isn’t it- something undeserved, or unearned, but offered anyway.
Thank you, James! I want to pass on your grace to others.
With love back to you-
๐ค๐ฟ Anita
anitaParticipantDear Going Through Life:
I understand you feeling scared, uncertainty is often scary.
By preparing, I meant (if you are calm enough to prepare), imagine different possible responses by her and then write how you would react, or what you would say to her in each scenario..?
๐ค๐ฟ Anita
October 7, 2025 at 1:06 pm in reply to: A.N.G.E.R (trigger warning, child abuse material is included) #450663
anitaParticipantCorrection: Jana (not Joanna)
October 7, 2025 at 12:59 pm in reply to: A.N.G.E.R (trigger warning, child abuse material is included) #450662
anitaParticipantHello Everyone:
* I am adding this comment after I completed this post: the following feel intense to me, so, please feel free to not read, or stop reading at any time. And you are welcome to share, if you read, what these things I share here, mean to you, in your life, your experience–
This thread is not about being Right while .. the other, or the others are Wrong. It’s about me continuing to uncover deep patterns and changing those patterns that need to be changed.
This thread is not about being defensive or aggressive (the line between these 2 is often unclear to me)
Here, I am continuing to type-as-I-think, stream of consciousness (with minimal editing), but not in a journaling context. Everyone is welcome to post here.
Earlier I wasn’t able, or it was very difficult for me to see faults in myself.. no, better say: I felt so faulty, so defective, that any criticism, any suggestion of criticism or rejection – felt like too much. Too much shame.
It’s been only because recently I’ve been peeling off me layers of shame and guilt, that I’ve been made available to consider single pieces of criticisms.
I want to look a bit deeper in this post into why there’s been so much shame and guilt piled up and what taking accountability as a child meant, or would have meant (again, I am typing as I am thinking).
I think that as a child, I didn’t get the chance to take accountability because my mother did not leave alone any part of me that could take accountability, as in.. a good, strong enough part in the core of me that could engage in self-accountability.
There has to be a core part in a person that’s valued as good and worthwhile, so that. that part can hold the rest of the self accountable.
My mother didn’t hold me accountable, she crushed me with long, protracted histrionic shaming episodes. So crushed, I couldn’t sit or stand up, figuratively. Any sincere apologies on my part for real or imagined wrongdoings were met by her shaming me MORE, using my apologies for further offense, further shaming. She didn’t stop the shaming before she got exhausted and needed to rest.
The feeling of being crushed by her was humiliating, severe, and in time, ANGER grew within me, equal in proportion to the intensity of the shaming- humiliating.
To humiliate me was her passion and she did it well, with talent, thoroughly. Let’s say, I was guilty of X, she didn’t drill that X just a bit into my skin so to bring about correction, she drilled it into bone and heart. As deep as she could go, and she could.. and she did.
The damage inside, bone and heart- was massive.
I want to acknowledge this damage here, in this post, in this thread.
She got relief from her own shame by externalizing it/ inflicting it on me, feeling free of it for a while. But I didn’t know it at the time, I was just lying down on the floor, so to speak, crushed. Weak and forever angry.
Correcting me was not her goal; shaming me was her goal. And this is what I’ve been expecting others to do to me. And I keep getting surprised that there are so many good, un-shaming people in my life, and not a single person ever got even close to the extent of her shaming me.
But my emotional reaction to people criticizing me- whether I express it or not- is proportional not to their behavior, but to my mother’s behavior.
The sentence I wrote right above, this particular understanding phrased as it is, that’s new to me.
More later.
๐ค๐ฟ Anita
P.S. I am not in a hurry to reply to your two recent posts, Joanna, because I know you’re on a vacation away from the computer, and also, I intend to do the inner child exercise and take guidance from your notes at a later time.
anitaParticipantDear Jana: I wish you well on your big adventure, Stopping, Calming, Resting ๐ฒ๐ชต๐๐ฆโฐ๏ธ
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