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anitaParticipantDear Nichole:
Amazingly, you started this thread almost six years ago, on September 11, 2019. And in my first reply to you, the very next day (September 12), I wrote:
“’What will my life be now?’ My answer is: looking for love in all the right places (vs looking for love in all the wrong places as the song says). In the past you looked for love in the wrong places. For many of us the wrong place to look for love is…alas- our families! Our families are supposed to be where love is, but isn’t it a tragedy, for so many of us, that love is not there.”
Fast forward to now… and the above still applies, doesn’t it?
You wrote: “I deserve to put me first and not be punished for it.” And I want to echo: love doesn’t punish you for placing yourself first. Love honors that. Love celebrates that. Love says: “Yes, you matter. Yes, you’re allowed to choose yourself.”-
Blocking everyone—for a little while or a long while—is not abandonment. It’s protection. It’s clarity. It’s the beginning of choosing love in the right places.
Sending you warmth and respect as you walk this path. You’re not alone.
—Anita
anitaParticipantI am addressing this post to all participants in this thread: Alessa, Jana, Lucidity, Peter, Roberta, and Tee.
Lucidity, less than two hours ago: “Here is a step-by-step guide on how to make a request when you have to make a stand against someone in any way, big or small… The basics are:
1. Say what the objective event was that you observed that was problematic for you.”-
Anita: The objective event that distressed me most was this post by Tee (Aug 7):
“Excerpt from Anita’s post: ‘I was thinking: if I share this here, will some people rejoice in my pain? Will some people go: Yea! The **** got hurt!? This is what crossed my mind, following recent interactions here, in the forums.’
The above is called projection. Projecting one’s own hateful thoughts and feelings on others, believing that others harbor the said thoughts and feelings. Well, they don’t. But the person is convinced they are. And so they launch an attack, a smear campaign, throwing dirt on their targets. Should that be allowed in a public space? That one member throws dirt on other members, based on their distorted thinking? I don’t think so. Lori has been informed.”
Here is a fuller context from my post on Aug 6 (in my thread Life Worth Living – What Is It Like?) that Tee quoted from:
“SOCJ: I was cutting blackberries today (thorny, aggressive ouch-if-they-hit-you), and my left arm bled in different locations… And I was thinking: if I share this here, will some people rejoice in my pain? Will some people go: Yea! The **** got hurt!? This is what crossed my mind, following recent interactions here, in the forums… I am sharing this in my own thread, which I think of as my private sanctuary, a private sanctuary which I need others to witness, at least a few others. Witnessed, not attacked.”
Lucidity: “2. Link this to how it made you feel.”-
Anita: When I read Tee’s post, I was so distressed that someone around me asked, alarmed: “What’s wrong???” My heart was racing, my head was shaking (Tourette’s motor tics), and I was uttering sounds (Tourette’s vocal tics). The rest of that day was difficult. I felt deeply unsafe.
Lucidity: “3. Express this as a need.”-
Anita: I need to feel safe in the forums—especially when I express vulnerability in my own threads. Being threatened with moderation (“Should that be allowed in a public space?… Lori has been informed”) made me feel exposed and punished.
I need to be understood—or at the very least, not terribly misunderstood or falsely accused. The post Tee quoted was emotional truth-telling, not a smear campaign. She quoted my fear out of context and reframed it as an attack.
When Tee accused me of “projecting”—suggesting I would rejoice in others’ pain—that disturbed me deeply. It wasn’t true. There was no cognitive distortion in my fear of being attacked: two days after I expressed my need to be “witnessed, not attacked,” I was attacked.
Lucidity: “4. Make your request and be open to the possibility they may decline.”-
Anita to Tee: Would you be willing to reconsider the content of the post you submitted on Aug 7? Perhaps you were wrong.
Boundary Statement: I’m sharing this not to reopen conflict, but to reclaim truth. I welcome responses that engage with the content respectfully. I will not participate in dynamics that distort, bypass, or extract from my vulnerability.
—Anita
September 4, 2025 at 7:15 am in reply to: Who’s Here—Really? A Gentle Roll Call for Our Tiny Community #449294
anitaParticipantGlad to have you here, Audrey! Thank you for answering. Looking forward to reading more from you, when you are ready.
Anita
anitaParticipantI didn’t read your whole post, Tommy (red wine and late hour), but I got to say, Tommy- I am growing to really, really like you… dementia (lol) or not. I am getting your style.. and I’m liking .. you, Tommy! (more tomorrow)
Anita
anitaParticipantNichole! It’s you!!!
I didn’t use these words for a while (I know it sounds crude), but sometimes Family is just another F word…
What happened, Nichole?
Anita
anitaParticipant“And I don’t remember anything else except for me screaming for help that never came. The screaming lasted for a long time. Screaming, crying and nothing but darkness.”-
Little girl Alessa: If I could go back in time and place, I would show up in that Hell where little blue-eyed, freckled-nose (when it was summer) Alessa grew up- and I would save her, and her brother- from that monster sex fiend.
I would climb the tallest mountain, cross the longest desert- so to rescue you and your brother. Just as I would do for any child suffering as much as you, your brother.. my sister.. and I did.
The sexual aspect of the abuse- you are brave to be talking about it. I am not brave like you. That part was.. excruciatingly difficult, unbearable.. How could that MONSTER do that.. ?!
Well, it was a monster, and it was done.
You are not alone: little girl Alessa. Little girl Anita knows. Little girl Anita understands.
September 3, 2025 at 7:32 pm in reply to: Naming abuse, Holding boundaries, Restoring dignity. #449269
anitaParticipantPeter, this message you sent me 4 hours ago, to me- it’s the most meaningful, beautiful and personal message you have ever sent me.
I will keep dancing, Peter, and I hope you do too.
Thank you, Jana!
Anita
anitaParticipantThank you, Peter.
anitaParticipantHello Everyone:
Thomas wrote, “Talking about a person has no real self doesn’t help the person who suffered trauma at the hands of their abusers.”-
I agree. Abuse fractures a person’s sense of safety, identity, and relational trust—as it did to me. Survivors like me often spend years reclaiming the right to say: “I exist. I matter. What happened to me was real.”
To then be told “there is no real self” can feel like a philosophical erasure of that pain.
The no-self theory, when applied to trauma, abuse, and healing, risks spiritual bypassing. When non-dual language is used to sidestep accountability—e.g., “there’s no doer, so no one harmed you”—it becomes a tool of denial. Survivors may feel gaslit, invalidated, or retraumatized.
It can even mimic the abuser’s tactics. Abusers often distort reality, deny harm, and fragment the victim’s sense of self. When spiritual communities echo this—however unintentionally—it replicates the original wound under the guise of enlightenment.
Can “No-Self” and Trauma Healing Coexist?
I believe they can—but sequence matters. Before dissolving the self, survivors must first reclaim it. As therapist Bonnie Badenoch writes: “We need a coherent sense of self before we can safely explore its dissolution.”- Healing begins with integration, not transcendence.
Instead of saying “you don’t exist,” a trauma-informed teacher might say: “The self is real enough to suffer—and sacred enough to honor. And beyond it, there is spaciousness.”- This honors both the wound and the wisdom.
Also, non-duality must never be used to bypass harm. A truly awakened stance includes: Naming abuse, Holding boundaries, Restoring dignity.
Only then can the “no-self” insight become liberating rather than annihilating.
James to Thomas: “I fully hear what you are saying. It is true — speaking of ‘no self’ to someone who is carrying deep trauma can feel like dismissing their pain. That is not my intention. What you say… about meeting people with compassion, listening to them, holding space — that is deeply valid. Wisdom without compassion is empty.” True indeed.
Peter wrote: “I was drawn to Anita’s question about whether such a nondual space is soothing.”- In sequence, it can be soothing—after the validation and reclamation of self.
—Anita
anitaParticipantThomas/ Tommy: 😊❤️ Anita
anitaParticipantDear James123:
The kind of freedom you are referring to is not the kind that comforts (positive value). It’s the kind that dissolves (neither positive nor negative).
Anxiety (negative) can be dissolved then, worry can be dissolved, fear.. anger, at least for a moment.. and then, for a longer and longer moment.
Thank you!
Anita
anitaParticipantDear James123:
“Complete dissolution”… – How does it feel to hold that truth? Is it a kind of relief—knowing that one day there will be no pain, no attachment, no grasping… nothing?
Does it soothe? Does it ache?
Warmly, Anita
anitaParticipant“Love is not a choice, not an effort. It is the natural fragrance of being, when there is no ‘me’ and ‘you.’”-
Brilliant, James123.
“the natural fragrance”- what a unique way of saying things.
Anita
September 1, 2025 at 6:47 pm in reply to: How to Heal from Past Social Disappointments and Build Genuine Friendships #449171
anitaParticipantMiss L Duchess, I read the post above and the others in your other threads.
What I see is a young woman who spent years being misunderstood, miscast, and emotionally erased by people who claimed to know what was best for you. Your mom’s attempts to engineer friendships based on surface-level similarities—while ignoring your discomfort, your identity, and your instincts (with best intentions) —left you feeling unseen and unheard.
You were told to be kind to someone who mocked your culture, pushed toward people who didn’t respect you, and expected to adapt while others refused to meet you halfway. That’s not connection. That’s erasure.
But you didn’t stay erased. You named the harm, traced the patterns, and are now choosing something different: showing up, staying open, and seeking relationships built on mutual respect—not forced proximity. That’s not just healing. That’s reclamation.
I see you as someone who’s been misread for years and is finally reading herself with clarity.
You deserved compassion, empathy, and care back then. You still do. And the life you’re building now—on your terms—is proof that healing isn’t about forgetting. It’s about refusing to be erased again.
Please tell me if I understand..?
Anita
anitaParticipantDear James123:
“When the body and mind are filled with judgment, separation, and endless thinking, that is hell. But when the heart holds love—pure, selfless, and without expectation—that is heaven.”-
It’s quite recently that my thinking has been evolving from black-and-white/ all-or-nothing/ binary thinking ===> shades of grey, color, nuance, context, different angles from which to view a complex situation.
Trying to understand the sentence I quoted above using binary thinking, I would have thought that you are suggesting that it’s possible for (an evolved) human being to entertain no judgmental thoughts and to love selflessly all the time, forever more (which would have made me feel very inadequate, ha-ha).
To soften judgment in most circumstances and to redirect judgment to empathy, again and again- that’s possible. To find relief from overthinking, that “endless thinking” you mentioned, which I personally know too well- that’s HEAVENLY.
I said it before, you have a lot to offer people: Love and Clarity.
💖 🙏 Anita
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