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AislynnParticipant
Dear Anita,
“Anxiety is fear connections in the brain. What happens is that that fear is not one connection that can be disconnected and problem solved. Fear is connected in many places in the brain, and different individuals, different connections.” This makes sense. So technically we can’t unplug them all at once, but rather we have to work on one at a time, otherwise I fear I would not be doing an adequate job.
“Right this moment, as I am sitting on this chair, I felt anxiety, became mindful that I am feeling anxious. Maybe it is that I overate a bit, being bloated makes me anxious (Neural Connection: bloated/fear) Also i am sitting by the wood stove and feeling warm (Neural connection: too hot/ fear). I know I need to go to the mat, away from the wood stove, yet I am sitting by the computer and feeling too warm.” I liked your descriptions. Not as a basis for comparison, but rather just to get insight as to how it works for you.
“An hour and forty minutes later and I am back. What I did was decided to do a brisk walk in the cold enough air outside, about three miles, fifty minutes or so, then completed the 5 kg (light) weight lifting I do every other day, followed with crunches (core work) on the mat, some stretches following the two and then a short hot bath. I let the fire die in the wood stove and am wearing lighter clothes so I am not uncomfortably warm.” I like your routine, sounds very calming.
“Take care and find comfort in your loving and lovable dog!” I will. I’ll admit that he calms me down. Whenever I am zoned out and distracted by things, or overwhelmed with the mountains of homework I have, he distracts me.
AislynnParticipantstarrynightdreams,
This post could have been written by me. I say this because I am English major as well, and I am all ready having doubts about it. I fear not being able to get a good job, and whether I want to admit it or not, I realize the stares I get when I say I am an English major. People simply do not think it is something you can make a living off of.
“There’s so many things I want to do. I want to write novels and movies, and maybe even TV scripts. I want to perform and create art. I want to volunteer at soup kitchens and animal shelters. It’s just that none of the work that excites me is motivated by money.” This sounds just like me. I wish I could spend my time helping others, but alas it is not possible, or how else could I support myself?
I am barely halfway to getting my degree, so I am seriously contemplating changing my major. It’s not that I don’t love English, I do, and I love reading and writing. However, I worry about making a living.
What kind of jobs are you applying for? I’ve heard that there are various different job opportunities for English majors. I googled, “jobs for English majors” and I got quite a few interesting ones. However, I am not so sure how exactly some of them are the right fit for English majors since they would require other studies.
AislynnParticipantDear Anita,
It’s been a while and I am glad to say that I am fine.
This past Thursday I experienced a lot of anxiety in the morning. Anxiety that someone would take my seat in class, and just anxiety for things reasons I know not. It faded as the class went on, but when I got home the anxiety came back. I don’t understand why if I wouldn’t be having class again until Tuesday. Dread I suppose.
However, Friday, and the weekend was fine. It was good and I was not anxious at all. Monday was good as well. No anxiety about the upcoming day.
Today was a bit overwhelming. I had a hard time not running to class even though I was 20 minutes early. Everyone just has a habit about showing up to class early even though the professor doesn’t arrive until 5 minutes before. I felt comfortable in lecture after I sat down, but to be honest, as soon as the professor opened the door, I leaped up to get into my seat. Lab class was great, which is not something I expected to be saying. I talked to the two girls in my group and we worked well in the experiment. I was the one doing most of the instructions and gathering of things, they seemed not too sure about what to do, I felt comfortable leading the group. However, I know that this is only because it was a small group. Otherwise, I wouldn’t have been able to do it. I felt so comfortable, that I even managed to ask them if they wanted to work together for the upcoming group project, even though group names are not due for another two weeks. They said yes, and I was glad to get it over with. We then talked about our upcoming exam, our quiz, and yoga. It was good.
Unfortunately, while I did good socially today, my general anxiety was high. Especially when it came to driving. I was worried I was driving too slow, that I was withholding traffic by not driving faster, that other drivers were probably irritated by me, even when I was driving the speed limit and when the cars in front of me were pretty far away. Turning on streets was especially when I thought that. I felt the sense to hurry up. It was very overwhelming. When I parked I asked myself, am I too close to the street or too far apart. My general thoughts were, “can I go now? are there any cars coming? there are no cars coming, I better hurry, oh no, I am going a bit too fast, I better slow down” etc. It was like this the whole time. Unfortunately, I do not think practicing mindfulness would help me in this case, I’d get caught up in thoughts with myself, and I would get distracted.
My anxiety today also revolved around crossing the street, not arriving on time, being too late, coming across stray dogs, etc.
So my question is, what can I do in this case? How can I make it manageable? I really do not know what is worse, having general anxiety or social anxiety.Thank you for that part about comparison. You are right, “Comparisons can be counter productive. People see too much into symptoms, thinking things like: oh, I don’t have THAT symptom, that means that person is too different from me. Thing is the symptoms of anxiety are different but anxiety is always… too much fear at too young of an age to deal with it healthily.” This really is what it is.
I am glad you are doing better, “Well, I am still healing, every single day, practicing mindfulness and more mindfulness, paying attention and I am seeing more and more each day. The more I notice, the more I see what I didn’t see before, the more there is to see the day after. I do not anticipate “the day AFTER” that is, me being healed and living “happily ever after” in a state of eternal comfort.” This brings up a big question for me, and it has to do with what Cheaw Hon said. She said she overcame her anxiety and issues. However, while not trying to compare her to me, I couldn’t help but ask myself, is there a way to overcome our disorders? Or is it something that will be with us all our lives? The rational part of me says that it is not possible and that since it has gone on for far too long that regardless of how much I can manage it, that there will always be remnants of it.
Thank you for asking me how I was doing. I got too busy with school work that I forgot to respond.
AislynnParticipantCheaw Hon,
It’s terrible that you had to encounter so many hardships. I can only imagine how hard it must have been for you. It’s great that you have overcome it, however, I am not sure that I can ever get to the point you have.
I thoroughly agree with this, “when I’m down, I cry out loud but I stand up strong again after I had spilled out all my sadness and I’m a fresh person again.” I do this as well, it used to be a very common thing for me to do about a year ago, but now it’s not as overwhelming.
“Remember, the people around are just as ordinary as you are, why do we have to think of ourselves as worthless and non worthy garbage? we are not and no one is.” This is something I forget, all the time. For some reason, I am intimidated by them, as if they were all knowing and perfect. However, you are right, we are all ordinary, and more likely than not, the people in my class are to some extent, like me.
AislynnParticipantDear Anita,
Sometimes I wish I wasn’t so observant or aware. It haunts me at times.
You’re very right, it does then make sense that children would pick up on their parents actions and tensions. It is then no wonder that children start acting out, they are just emulating what they know.
Yes, indeed lucky dog. However, I love him so much that I hate him having to feel and sense my anxiety if even for a little. His life is short and I want him to enjoy it, not spend it feeling my anxiety.
Well, that sounds good. In reference to in the future not having to worry so much about planning in the future when I can better manage it.
Ah, so even the rushing dictates that part of my life, what I thought was my escape from it. Right now, in light of my pulled muscle I will do some yoga and see how that goes.
“Oh, and talk to your dog, tell him calming things: this way he hears your calming tone and you get to hear it too!” Oh yes, I most definitely will, I confide in him, tell him what I don’t say to others. I think he most of all, deserves to be calm.
If you don’t mind me asking, you said you’ve struggled with anxiety most of your life. Before you started, what was your anxiety like, and how is it now? You know, just as a comparison, to see what it is like, to see what it could be like for me one day.
AislynnParticipantDear Anita,
“it is as if you were born to be mindful, you are so good at it.” I do believe I have always been very observant about the world around me, so yes I do believe it does come fairly easily to me. The only thing I struggle with is going off on tangents of what ifs, theories, etc. I am just a very curious person, so it does not come easily to me to not observe or analyze the information.
“way less chances to get injured walking briskly than running because walking you always have one foot on the ground and it is as effective as an aerobic exercise and stress relief, if you walk fast” Great point Anita, you are very correct. I won’t be able to do much physical activity for the next week or so, so running and jogging are definitely out of the picture. But when I do get back to it, I will definitely walk briskly. For now, I can walk with very little pain on my leg. However, when sitting down I can hardly move it because it aches a lot. Rather than risk further injury I am going to lay off of physical activity so my leg can heal.
“You planned a lot, took the extra time, so no rushing… you decided where to sit in class, in the front. And you did not execute perfectly: you forgot your earbuds, BUT you didn’t get distressed over it. (Perfection can never be achieved!)” Yes, I planned a lot. I realize I do that a lot. I tend to plan as much as I can when it comes to going out the supermarket, the post office, school, the bus, etc. While it helps calm me down, I have to admit that I feel like I am adding to my burden, in the sense that when I am not able to plan I am a nervous wreck. So essentially I am creating a dependency on my planning, and that planning itself takes a long time, I always go over my plan more than a few times.
“Excellent job, Aislynn! Excellent. You minimized all the factors that could cause you distress (being early, planning how to get to classrooms, and having plenty of time every step of the way) and you calmed yourself when you started getting distressed (TV show)- this is so important, to notice when you start getting distressed and taking a calming action right there and then!” Thank you for that. Yes, I did notice that right as soon as I start feeling that dread or anxiety creeping up, that is when I need to take action and do something to put myself in a good place.
“Please continue… and take care of that muscle… walking fast next time?” I will most definitely take care of that muscle and not run for a while. So yes, walking fast. However, I feel that sometimes I want to go faster, and faster and faster, as if I could just run away from it all. A good feeling, but not so good for my body.
I have an observation to make. A few months ago I started picking up on just how anxious my dog had become. Specifically around people or other dogs. I thought it was just his personality, but about a month or so ago I came to the realization that it was because of me. Because I was scared and anxious all of those times. I felt anxiety that the other dog would be mean to my dog, or that it would bark or growl. Then I would feel anxious when anyone passed by me at the park, or asked to pet my dog, so in a sense I was passing all of that anxiety to my dog. He would twitch his ears, shrink away and stick his tongue out nervously. They say that dogs are very keen at sensing our emotions, and I see how true that is. My dog loves to be pet, all the time. He’s a lap dog. He would always stick his tongue out a little bit or twitch his ears when I would pet or cuddle him, and I realize that this all coincides to when I was feeling dread, nervousness, uncertainty, because just yesterday, and today when I wasn’t feeling anxious, he didn’t do any of that. He didn’t do any of his nervous habits.
AislynnParticipantDear Anita,
“excess, ongoing fear from long ago… and now, you have to be, over time, that strong, capable person that you always needed and did not have.” Yes, I do. I guess I’ve known that for a while now. I’ve always felt like I couldn’t rely on others but myself, and when it comes to my social anxiety I really am the only one that can help myself in the sense that the way I react to my anxiety is what either helps me improve or keeps me stuck.
“Focus on overall progress, not perfection.” This is something I will have to keep in mind.
Today was my first day of class this semester and I am pleasantly surprised to say that I didn’t feel much anxiety at all. It was nothing compared to the previous years.
I made sure that last night I was calm, not anxious. I knew that if I let my anxiety take hold of me, that it would make it much more difficult in the morning. I guess a lot of my anxiety has to do with my expectations of what could happen, anticipation. So I ran two miles, I usually jog or walk, but I felt I had tension building up somewhat so I ran. It felt good, and even when my body was tired of running, my mind was not, so I kept running. Unfortunately, by not listening to my body I strained a muscle on my leg. After that I decided to check my schedule, the class roster (to get a feel of who the people could be, as if their names could give away anything), I looked at the bus schedule, and I spent more than 30 minutes trying to find out where exactly in the building my classes would be. Struggling to find my classes really built up my anxiety. Once I found out where my classes would be, I planned out how I would walk to my class the next day. I decided I was already feeling much too anxious too my liking, so I sat down and watched a tv series that I really enjoy, and I had some passion flower tea that is supposed to relax your mind and muscles. I don’t know if it really worked because it really does do what it advertises, or because I felt like it worked, so it did. What matters is that it worked for me. I wasn’t able to sleep much because of the pain in my leg, so I was up early and started feeling anxious. The tea worked last night so I thought I’d drink some this morning. I wasn’t worried about forgetting anything because I had made sure to have everything in my backpack ready for the next day, so I was ready to go. On the way to school I focused on being mindful. I focused on the cars, the road, the bridges, etc. Once I got to school I even forgot to put in my earbuds (I always have to have earbuds when I am out at school and don’t have anyone to talk to, it makes me feel less overwhelmed). I went to the bookstore, atm, and walked around to find my classes, and then I took a seat in one of the lounging area, with a clear view of the outside. I still had about 50 minutes left before class started so I just checked my email, deleted some old pictures, etc. I then saw someone in the lounge area looking outside, so I thought, “I’m going to focus on what I see.” I wasn’t anxious, and was able to keep myself sitting there, until about 17 minutes before class during which I checked on my leg and freshened up a bit. The hallway was full of people, and while I would usually feel intimidated, this time it didn’t bother me. I waited for the teacher to arrive and I sat in the front row, something I hadn’t attempted previously. I just didn’t want to sit in the back and look like a slacker. I wasn’t nervous or anxious. The professor was friendly enough, and she used me and a couple of other people in my row to make examples of favoritism, phone policies, team work, etc and I was fine with it. I didn’t have to stand up or anything, but even then, that sort of attention makes me heat up like a tomato, not this time. I was however, very conscious of myself, my actions. I was very aware of the people in the same row as me, the position of my arms, my surroundings. The professor talked about the group project and said “if you find yourself not having a group, come see me and I will pair you with a group who I think you will fit in well” and while I hoped I wouldn’t have to resort to that, it made me feel better. I thought to myself that I’d worry about it when the time came. Then for my next class I was running a little late, luckily it was only half of the people from my first class, 24, and so I didn’t feel so intimidated going in. I was one of the last ones, but I still felt comfortable. Luckily, the guy in the group I sat in was cracking jokes and being funny, talking to me a bit, and I felt included, even though I felt that the girls at the other table were not amused. I was glad to not feel nervous or anxious. I felt aware, of myself, of others. Even waiting for the bus, I did not feel as paranoid as I usually do. It was a good day.
So in light of that, I was thinking that a great part of my anxiety comes from anticipation, anticipation of talking to other, anticipation of feeling lost, anticipation of getting mugged, etc. Once I was able to calm down that anticipation, the actual moments were a lot better. The mindfulness certainly helped.
Also, I believe it helped that I got out a lot of my worries before the actual day, that I planned it out and stuck with it, otherwise I know I would have certainly been a mess. Had I not found the school map, or figured out where to find the lounge area, I would have been anxious no doubt. Another thing that helped was knowing that someone else knew about my issue and that I was able to find forums with other people whose problem was worse than mine. It put things in perspective. Also, what I did different than last time was that instead of telling myself to not feel anxious, I told myself that it was all right, that it was going to be okay, that I would do fine and that it would all work out. That positive self talk helped, a lot.
AislynnParticipantDear Anita,
“If your mental disorders are the consequences of her behavior toward you, well.. if she does not believe that a forming child is affected by the child’s parents’ behavior toward the child… well, this is a giant blind spot, isn’t it?” It really is. My mother has always been supportive, and as caring as she can be, despite the fact that her parents were physically and verbally abusive towards her. No emotional or physical affection. So, in a sense I think she is doing as best as she can based on her experiences. She always welcomes me to share with her. She knew I was dealing with depression a while ago and she was amazing. However, I never let her know about the bullying, I saw how much it affected her after I got into that fight at school. I didn’t want to break her heart or hurt her. It was my burden to carry, not hers. I didn’t want her to see me as a broken doll that needed fixing. I didn’t want anyone to see my vulnerability.
“When a parent believes that his or her behavior has no consequence on the child’s mental health… what kind of oversight is it, Aislynn? What kind of blindness is it?” It is a very big oversight I say. However, my mother is very aware of this. I think that the reason why she doesn’t take mental health so seriously, is because deep down she herself is still very hurt from the abuse and neglect of her parents. I believe this is why she doesn’t acknowledge it. She understands how much words can hurt and when me, my sister, and my younger brother are mad at each other she makes sure to tell us, her daughters, as the oldest ones, that we need to watch our words with my 9 year old brother. He is overweight and we are forbidden from calling him fat, because although we don’t say it to bully him, just to let him know to watch what he eats, my mother understands how damaging words can be. She is conscious about mental health issues, yet there is something that prevents her from fully acknowledging it in others.
“I still don’t know what father issues you are referring to then (bio or step father issues? Or both).” Biological father issues. It wasn’t bullying or anything, but rather abandonment. The way I saw it back then, I am his blood, his child, he was one of the two people who were supposed to love me unconditionally but did not, or he would have tried to let me know what was going on. He would have tried to stay in contact with me and he should have thought about how it might impact me. He did not, he was selfish, very much so and left us with nothing. That is my father issue, because of this, I am very untrusting of men. I have commitment issues and because of this my relationships are not very stable. I will go out with a guy, we’ll be together for up to a month, after which I will doubt that I like them, I will break up with them, realize I like them, go back, and so on. This hasn’t happened with just one of my exes, but a majority of them. It is a pattern with me. Also, rather than have them break up with me, I break up with them, I don’t like the sense of being dumped. During high school I didn’t want to be alone, so much so that I craved the attention of guys, I went out with various guys, on and off, and kept stringing them along, just so I could prove to myself that I was likable and that I could have them at any time I wanted to. I don’t feel stable in relationships. I feel as though the minute I fall for them, they’ll walk out on me, and I doubt myself. Which is why I kept stringing others along. I didn’t want to be alone. I didn’t want to be left again, so I always left them. Sounds twisted doesn’t it? Believe me, I know how wrong I was. I realized how wrong I was and tried to break that pattern.
“This is unfortunate and it affected you very much. When bullied, you definitely needed at the time your parents’ protection, understanding, guidance and support..! Very much so.” I did, I needed someone to tell me everything would be all right, that it could be fixed. However, I was too stubborn to let my mom know. I didn’t want to worry anyone. I’m sure my mom would have been very helpful had I let her in.
“Please continue your Mindfulness work- you got it and you are getting it. Let me know how you are keeping at it! Write anytime you would like. Your pace, your choice of topics!” I most definitely will let you know. I was pleasantly surprised that today I haven’t felt as anxious as I thought I’d be. I have felt anxious, but not overwhelmingly so. My breathing does seem emotionally heavy though. I was a lot more anxious yesterday and the day I started this thread. It certainly helps knowing that someone else understands what I am going through. It somehow makes it seems like things are not so bad. I start my semester tomorrow so I’m sure I’ll have a lot more to talk about with you tomorrow.
I have to be honest and say that I was googling, “social anxiety college” just the other day. I found lots of threads of others who feel so much social anxiety that they skip school, drop out, cry when talking to people, stutter, don’t have any friends, etc. Reading some of them helped me, it makes me grateful that my disorder is not as strong. It makes me feel more confident that I can do it. If other people younger than me or my age, have it worst than me, then I think to myself, “you are not alone, you can do it.” Of course, we’ll see how that all goes tomorrow.
AislynnParticipantDear Anita,
“good to read your progress. You describe everything so well! Like I wrote before: you got what it takes!” Thank you. I believe sometimes I am much too detailed with myself about my thoughts, and with others. Some people would say I am too mature or philosophical for my age.
“And since I already went through excellent therapy that helped me so much, I will be glad to share what he taught me with you.” Thank you. This means a lot. Especially considering that it would be hard to get good help. I live in a state that is known for not having good mental health services or help.
“You noticed when you lost focus on the first two, you didn’t (my understanding) beat yourself up for losing focus/ attention (very important) and you returned to sights and sounds.” You are correct. I did not criticize myself or get angry or upset about getting lost in my thoughts. I just thought to myself, “Ahh, I’m getting sidetracked. Let me focus on something I see or hear.” Then I’d try to continue with my observations.
“Of course, not eternal calm: a thing to remember. It is a matter of time and never is there a “happily ever after/ always calm kind of existence. Good job!” Thank you, this helps. I was worried I wasn’t really doing what I needed to.
“As to the first part of your post, i would like to write about it when I am back to the computer.” Great, do so. I really value you asking for insight. I consider you to be a very observant and great person and I know that you can probably understand things about myself that I cannot analyze properly because I might see it differently.
Well… I have about 4 memories about my biological father aside from the day he left us. They are basically the only things I remember about him. I remember us moving in with my grandma when we first moved into the state after traveling more than 500 miles. I cannot recall anything about that initial time other than this particular day they had gone out and when they came back they had bought us a snow globe from the disney store. I don’t remember him much in my memory, just that he was around. Another faint memory is of him sitting on our blue recliner watching tv, and another is of him hosting a party for his friends, like he did, all the time, I recall. One particular day he had some of his friends over. My mother was serving them coffee and my younger sister was being careless and running all over. It so happens that she bumped into my mother and my mother accidentally spilled the coffee on her. It fell onto her stomach and burned her. One of my father’s friends was a very nice man (about 4 years later, he would become my step dad) and he left our apartment, went to buy some ointments, returned, gave them to my mother and told her what to do with them to help my sister. I don’t recall my father doing anything, as though he wasn’t even there. There are two other things I remember about my father. He once struck me with a belt. I don’t recall what I did, but I remember being very angry afterwards, thinking “how dare he hit me”. Another time, I remember being mad at him for not letting me paint my nails. Once again I was angry. I considered him oppressive, and even at that age (7 or younger), I remember thinking of him as controlling. All of my memories of him involve me feeling alone, like there was no connections. I feel this darkness in all of my memories of him. So no, he did not bully me, he just wasn’t involved.
I was actually bullied in the 6th and 8th grade by different girls. In 6th grade I was a tomboy. I wore loose clothing and didn’t care much about my appearance. 6th grade was at a different school than the elementary school I had gone to. It was a much bigger school with a lot more diversity. I only had one friend from elementary that I really spoke to and naturally we met other girls in 6th grade. I am hispanic but I had never been around other hispanics much. It was strange to me and I quickly realized how much I didn’t fit in. It was also very clear to the other girls my friend talked to. They teased me, called me a lesbian, spread rumors about me, excluded me, talked about me, asked rude questions, they asked why I dressed like that, why I didn’t have a boyfriend etc. It wasn’t long before the other girls got wind of the rumors and started talking about me as well. They all bought lunches, and I brought mine, which was enough to make them bully me even more. I liked the color blue, they liked red. Another reason for them to not like me. It was too much for me to handle at that age. I hated going to school. I constantly felt judged and talked about. I would cry in the restroom and in my room at home when I was alone. I once convinced my mother to let me miss a week of school, feigning sickness just so I would be away from it all. I had enough of it and started molding myself so I could fit in. Things got better after that but I became self conscious. I got a boyfriend just to prove myself to them and started wearing red, and jewelry and lip gloss, etc. I was glad when the girls who had teased me weren’t going to the same school for 7th grade.
I don’t recall much about 7th grade. It was all right I suppose. In 8th grade however, I had another encounter with bullies. This particular girl thought it was funny to laugh at me in gym class because I didn’t know how to throw a basketball. I got angry and decided I wasn’t going to let her talk about me that way. I went up to her and we got in a physical fight. I was hoping that would be the end of it, I had already had enough of bullies, but it was just the beginning. She was a year younger than me and would always try to intimidate me and one of my other friends. She would bump into us in the hallway and physically push us and say mean things. It would happen almost everyday. I was terrified. So terrified that me and my other friend would always email each other so we could arrive together at school. I was so scared when this bully’s older sister confronted me. I was so scared that I pushed all of the blame on my friend (I feel so bad for doing this to my friend but I was very scared after learning that this bully was into boxing). The older sister asked me why I had gotten in a fight with her sister and I said to her, “I did it because she said mean things about me and my friend, I was just trying to defend myself, it was my friend who started it all with your sister” (Which was true but I felt bad for turning my back on my friend). My bully’s sister was nice and said she’d get her sister and friends too lay off of me, and it worked. They then only bothered my friend. I was glad, but I still felt scared. Near the end of the year the returned to calling me names. I was glad when we ended up not going to the same high school. I was terrified of these girls, there were about 5 of them, and they had all taken turns bullying me, pushing me, calling me names. I remember being not just scared, but terrified. SO MUCH so that when I saw this girl, at my college during my first semester for a small one hour class, I hid behind my computer and basically sped out of the classroom once it was over. When I saw her in the hall I hid my face and tried to be as fast as possible. I felt nothing but anxiety and fear. In middle school I recall not feeling like I confide in any of the teachers to help.
AislynnParticipantDear Anita,
They would most probably not take me seriously. My step dad in particular, although a great man, would tell me to get over it. My mother, well she wouldn’t even have a talk with me about it, she’s not too much of a believer on mental disorders, she doesn’t comprehend it and takes it too lightly. I guess this all comes from them being fairly outgoing, and they’re oblivious to other people’s struggles. They don’t see how hard it is to get me to even ask a sales associate where to find a particular item. When we go to the store and we can’t find something they make me go ask around, I guess to them I am just shy and they want to help, but they don’t see how much I struggle with it, how much discomfort it causes me. To them, it is as though if they cannot physically see the ailment, it does not exist. They are very ignorant when it comes to mental health disorders other than depression. My mother is the kind of woman who if she saw someone park in a handicapped parking space, and saw them get out and walk just fine, would make a snide comment about them, not taking the time to realize that perhaps they have cancer, a mental disorder, heart disease, etc. I know my mother and step dad love me, they’ve been a great support when I have an off day, and I feel broken down or depressed or am physically ill. However, my mental disorders, well they wouldn’t be too understanding.
What you described about how your therapist helped you with mindfulness helps me. It helps me have a more concise idea of what I should be aiming for, trying to do. I think that for now I’ll try and focus on sight and sound. Right now, it’s too much for me to try and pay attention to the sensations and feelings within me. For example, even deep breathing is a sensation that I am a bit wary about. It makes me feel heavy, not physically, but emotionally, I feel the tension in that breath and I despise it. It makes me feel wound up like a coil.
“You can’t do it all quickly. It is not a performance thing” I think this is something I will struggle with along my journey. I’m the kind of person that likes to see progress quickly and loves to measure where I am, I am always trying to compare my performance to where I think I should be, or how I think I should be doing. The whole performance thing is something that has always been an issue for me, not in terms of how I rank against others, but to how I believe I should be ranking. I tend to think I am my own worst critic.
“Again and again the audios were about it being okay to lose focus, to get lost again. Mindfulness is about returning again and again to what you pay attention to. You get lost in self talk while listening to sounds, you NOTICE you got lost, you GENTLY bring yourself back to the sounds… again and again and again…” This answers one of my questions very well. Just yesterday I was in the car on the way to the store and I had been feeling a bit of anxiety ever seen I woke up, so I thought, what better time than to try to practice mindfulness, you know, give it a try. So I sat there quietly, listening to the crunch of the wheels, the sound of the wind blowing against us, I payed attention to what I was seeing, the light from the sun, the shadows that the other cars cast, the grass being green under a bridge, but the grass being brown out in the open. I got lost for a while thinking how the grass could be green while being away from the rain and sun, but the same grass be so brown while out in the open. I realized I was talking to myself, and tried to focus again on what I was seeing, some run down buildings, some that were closed, others still in business and I got to thinking how they could let their place of business get so shoddy. After all, at some point they were in good shape. I then got caught up in paying attention the colors of the cars, we passed a gas station and I saw a police officer pulling someone over. I got to think about the reason, maybe they were speeding, didn’t use turn signals, or had expired tags. It was like that, me focusing on what I was hearing or seeing and then getting lost in my thoughts and speculations. It felt good to pay attention to things I otherwise wouldn’t have. I guess you could say I go around my day like a zombie, noticing what is around me, but not enough for it to spark my thoughts. I liked trying to focus solely on what I saw or heard. It was a nice distraction from thinking about all the other things I would have had on my mind. It certainly made me feel calm. I did get lost in my own thoughts A LOT, but at least I wasn’t thinking about my anxiety, or school, or anything else that would make me worry. I was calm, if only for the rest of that morning. I am usually uneasy about even being out at the store, having others glance my way, trying to get an item while there are others where I need to get the item from, or the cashier trying to make small talk to me. I’m usually as far away as I can get from the cashier, usually by pretending to be on my phone, or at the very back of the line while I let my sister be at the front. For once, I did not shy away from the cashier and she was a very pleasant person. It was nice to not be nervous about her talking to me. Something I usually avoid at all costs.
Yes, I definitely think I can download some mindfulness audio tracks. I was thinking it’d be a good idea to have some at home, to listen to when I am having anxiety about going out, or even when I am not anxious, just so I can get the hang of it slowly. Then I also thought I’d have some other audio tracks to help me while I am walking around downtown to get to my bus stop. The college I attend is downtown, and while my parents will take me in the morning, I’ll ride the bus home. I’m just too anxious about those cramped parking spots at my school, and the parking lot is always full to the max. I also have a lot of anxiety while waiting for the bus, and while I am on the bus. I’m afraid the bus won’t come, that I’ll miss my bus stop, that the other riders will stare at me, and just other unpleasant thoughts about having to wait with people. So, I think it’d be a good idea to have some audio tracks for then as well.
Benite, thank you for your concern and help. I will most definitely look at your profile and check out your website. Thank you for the help.
AislynnParticipantWow. I was actually thinking about Jehovah Witnesses earlier.
There was a time, about a year or two ago that they would come to my house almost every other weekend or so. They would be in the parking lots of the grocery store, across the street waiting for students to get out of class, etc.
It bothers me that they try to push their beliefs on you, all the time. Why can they not understand when you say you already have a certain religion/belief? Do they think you’ll magically change your mind?
I feel like a prisoner in my own house sometimes. If I’m driving up to my house, and I see them walking down the street I basically run into the house. If I’m at home when they knock I just turn off all the lights and turn down the volume on the TV and go into the back room till I think they’re gone.
Now, I know I could just politely refuse, but they don’t seem to handle refusal well at all. They keep insisting. They have someone else come and knock. They all try to ask the same questions. It angers me that they don’t seem to understand that I don’t want anything to do with them. So instead of facing them, and probably having a bad encounter, I just hide it out. It also has to do with the fact that I don’t open the door to strangers, too much of a risk these days.
However, despite how much their persistence annoys me, I must admit…. To some degree I admire their dedication to what they are doing. Trying to get others involved. I say this because they’re usually dressed modestly, in their Sunday best. They also usually have the whole family come along with them. I’ve seen several with their children, and instead of watching TV or going to the mall or park, etc. They’re out and about trying to enlighten others on their view. That is not something everyone could do, so for that, I admire their dedication to a certain extent.
Inky, wow the persistence. I don’t think I would have been too happy if I had a son and my neighbors took him somewhere I didn’t know about. So in terms of that, I side with your family and friends. It’s good that you were finally able to clear the air and make the JW lady understand. I’d say not to worry about your neighbors, they don’t have a right to be offended. After all, you are allowed to believe whatever you want. Just like you wouldn’t push your beliefs on them,they have to understand to back away in terms of the whole religious conversion.
Anita, good note to remember for if I ever decide to open the door to them. I’ve always thought I’d just tell them, “I’m Catholic, thank you very much and that will not be changing anytime soon, goodbye”. Yeah, I’d be lying but I think that if I said oh I’m spiritual not religious they’d just keep insisting.
You know, some JW are very nice people. My sister had a best friend who was JW and she never tried to push her views or even mentioned it. I was shocked that they didn’t celebrate holidays or birthday parties and were forbidden from attending any sort of celebration pertaining to those events. They also can only marry within their religion. I feel like they are very opressed, but who am I to judge.
However, some of the rudest most spiteful people I’ve ever met have also happened to be JW. Very untrusting and suspicious of others. Too snobby as well. Of course this doesn’t apply to all of them.
AislynnParticipantDear Anita,
“If you want, we can go on and on about this on this thread, you post, I post on and on and if this thread gets too long, then start a new one…Your choice. I am willing.” This sounds great. I would very much like to do that.
I can relate to feeling spaced out and not paying attention. For me, it happens all the time. I could be talking to someone, listening to them talk while my mind is elsewhere. It happens more than I’d like, again, because my mind just doesn’t know how to stay still. At any moment, I’ll be thinking, speaking to myself about whatever is on my mind, or just dazing off.
You’re right, it probably won’t make a difference. Not much they can do anyway beside prescribe me something.
“The Child Pose, the Corpse Pose and the chest opener (standing and arms to the side, chest in front, or lying down on a pillow so your chest is up) are the three… as well as some stretches. In this regard yoga is really stretching and relaxing, not performing or exercising. Do the relaxing stretches and resting ones only.” Those happen to be my favorite poses when doing yoga, along with a few others. I like that you said yoga is about relaxing not exercising. The way everyone else says it they make it seem like a sport about being flexible and I’ve always had a hard time with it. I struggle with a vast number of the poses and find myself uncomfortable most of the time,unable to reach the mindfulness I seek. I like the idea of doing just a few poses at my pace. For some reason I was not focusing onbeing mindful of my body, relaxing or my breathing. Rather I was trying to keep up with the various poses trying to achieve them as best as I could.
“You have what it takes, Aislynn: I know you do. I don’t write something like this, that you have what it takes, just to anyone. I stick to reality and to what I believe is true and real and so when I wrote you have what it takes, I mean it.” This means a lot to me. It really does. It helps that someone else besides myself believes it is possible for me to become mindful and reduce and control my anxiety. It means a lot because I’ve dealt with the anxiety and behaviors most of my life all by myself. Sure, they know about a few of my obsessive behaviors, but they don’t know the full extent. I can’t even imagine what my family would think if I told them about it.
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AislynnParticipantDear Anita,
” Be gentle with her, don’t give her any negative criticism as telling her: “You shouldn’t be that anxious… what is wrong with you? and “You should be able to better manage your anxiety…” And such self talk. Talk to her (to yourself) gently, encouragingly. Fear is a very powerful force and she (the child in you…you) need all the support.. the gentle guidance along the way. This is of most importance: can’t heal without being gentle and patient… kind… that is being loving toward yourself.” This sounds right. I read something about 2 days ago about validating my feelings and the anxiety I feel. That they are my feelings and should be acknowledged and taken seriously. That by not validating them I am not helping myself. I do have to work on being loving and supporting of myself when it comes to my anxiety. It’s just that sometimes I get so frustrated with my fears that the rational part of me speaks out saying it’s silly or something like that.
“being mindful means, getting outside your thinking, thinking, thinking part of the brain and paying attention to what is around here, the Here and Now, directing your attention to what you see, hear, smell, etc… slow exercise and stretching makes it possible for you to pay attention to how the body feels.” This clears it all up for me. I didn’t really know what to expect to feel through mindfulness. I must admit I expected it to be some sort of spiritual awakening of some sort and I just didn’t think I was getting anywhere. But this really puts it in perspective for me.
“Take it slow, easy and gentle, Aislynn: no rushing this process.” I will certainly take my time with this process. I want it to work out and I want to do it well. Every day that I practice being mindful it will get easier. It might hard at first but I’m willing to do the work that is needed.
AislynnParticipantDear Anita,
Right now, no I cannot fathom myself being calm and clear. My impulses drive me. I plan things and then they happen very differently. Not because of the circumstances, but because I find myself making impulse decisions based on my anxiety. However, being calm and clear is how I picture my future self being.
“I used to think that being sick with anxiety was me, that there was something wrong with me. After all, if THIS is me, there is something wrong with me, a brain defect, some defect. And I had good reasons, so it seemed, to believe I was defected: the Tourette tics were good enough a reason.” My thoughts exactly, about myself. That my brain is messed up, that I am ill. Not a positive thing to think about.
“What I realize is that there was nothing wrong with me, no defect. What happened is: I was injured, harmed as a child and my tics, and other manifestations of my anxiety are the consequences of those injuries inflicted on me.” However, this makes perfect sense as well. I know deep down that my father issues and bullying are what led me to develop anxiety. I was not born with it. This happened because of my experiences.
“the root cause for all is excess, ongoing fear.” So true. Most of these disorders do seem to be out of fear, lots of fear.
“Regarding medications, or as I refer to them controlled, prescribed drugs taken on the basis of (the doctor asking): how do you feel with 50 mg of this? not good enough? Let’s put you on 75 mg. After two weeks: how are you feeling? worse? let’s get you off this medication and get you on this other one.. or let’s add this one…A TRIAL AND ERROR basis), I was on them for 17 years, heavy doses, and my life circumstances got worse over time, reaching a bad state toward the end of those 17 years. Finally off them all since Oct 2013, a hard process getting off, took me 1-2 years.” This sounds scary. A doctor, just toying around to find the right combination and dose, sounds very dangerous, especially considering that they are doctors. I am glad that you were able to get away from the prescription drugs. It’s not something everyone has the strength to do.
Honestly, in regards to my disorder, I am not yet at a place where I believe I need psychotherapy. You know, maybe it’s my disorder that is controlling me to some degree in this aspect that keeps me from seeing that I need help. Right now, I just feel that I need to work on it on my own. I want to see how far I can get on my own.
“feeling more anxious trying to get quiet” Yes, exactly. I can do meditation from time to time, and it really helps, but yoga, I’ve never been able to do so. I looked at the article for restorative yoga, this seems much more manageable than doing regular yoga for me. I am not pressured to do all sorts of poses, just the ones that I feel help me.
For as long as I can remember I’ve had anxiety. I would count the letters on every sign I saw, or street address, not just once, or twice, but more than 6 times. I hated odd numbers, if I found a word with an odd number I would add to it or make it a sentence and I wouldn’t stop until it was even. I would be scared of getting run over, even when crossing the street at the appropriate times. I would have to check the stove, and go into each room more than a few times before leaving the house because I feared something bad would happen if I didn’t. I was scared of missing my bus stop. I would be afraid other cars would hit me while I was driving. I feared others would judge me based on what I wore or said. I would count and analyze everything multiple times, as if I had looked at the information wrong or hadn’t remembered correctly. If I went to a place regularly and something was out of order I’d freak out and think I was going to have a bad day. I couldn’t bring myself to change my schedule. So far, I’ve made progress on my own. Some of these habits are still very present in my life, but they are not as severe as they used to be. I think it has to do with the fact that ever since I graduated high school I am not around people as much. I have been taking some of my classes online and don’t really have to deal with people face to face. Also, it helps that I am an introvert and don’t really like to go out much. But I can’t spend the rest of my life avoiding groups of people, can I?
I don’t think I’ve said this before, but thank you so much for listening to me talk about my anxiety. It’s not something that anyone else I know quite understands. I know a few people with anxiety, but theirs isn’t as bad as mine so they don’t completely get it when they see how much I struggle.
AislynnParticipantDear Anita,
How thoughtful you are. I’m glad to be doing well in other aspects of my life. Thank you for your guidance, it certainly has helped me stay away from my ex.
Wow, OCD. If I may confide in you, I believe that I may have it. I have many things that I do in repetitions, and disturbing thoughts that drive me to keep doing them. I haven’t seen a doctor about it because I am scared. Worried about what it means. I fear that it will just escalate even more or that they won’t understand. Aside from my social anxiety, I also have general anxiety. I’ve had it for such a long time that you’d think that by now I’d be able to manage it.
“When anxious the brain is rushing. So even though you plan (as in your quote) to walk slowly to class, while you take that slow first step with your legs, your brain already is 100 steps ahead in a rushing mode and all hell broke loose already, on your first step with your legs.” This makes perfect sense to me. It really hit the nail on the head. I try to quiet my body, to take my time, but my brain is going 90 miles an hour, and the worst thing about that is that I can’t quiet it.
I had thought about getting prescription medicine to help me out a little. But I’ve heard of how addictive they become so quickly, it’s not something I want to mess with.
I’ve tried yoga before. However, I am not particularly flexible, and I become frustrated with the poses. I also have not been able to experience that mindfulness with yoga, regardless of how many times I try. I don’t understand what it is I am doing wrong. My mind refuses to quiet down.
I’m going to try to give yoga another chance. I really need to work on my anxiety because it’s so overwhelming. I want to be able to slow down my brain. That would be such a big achievement for me.
I think you are very right with everything you’ve said. However, my question is what other things can help me achieve the mindfulness I seek?
I’m not proud to say that for the past two hours I’ve been busy looking at my class rubrics, getting my belongings together and organizing my backpack. I tried my best to remember everything I would need for class, and since my mind is so busy trying to make sure I don’t stumble into the wrong room, that I have my schedule, ID, etc… Well I almost forgot to pack writing utensils, so as you can assume. I am very worried that I’ll forget one thing or another. I just want to cry, I wish I didn’t have to deal with all this worrying, it really distracts me and stops me from enjoying and living in the moment, but then I wouldn’t be myself, would I?
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