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February 22, 2025 at 12:17 pm in reply to: Understanding someone who's recently divorced and not ready #443157
Dafne
ParticipantThank you Anita! I’m happy to hear that đđ
Take care of you too! đ¤
February 22, 2025 at 11:42 am in reply to: Understanding someone who's recently divorced and not ready #443153Dafne
ParticipantDear Anita,
I’m happy to hear that you are proud of me and that you liked my message. Your words give me courage đ
I’ll try my best to keep away from the spider web đ¸ and learn to protect my well being.
And if anything remarkable happens, I’ll let you know.
Have a great day Anita!
I will miss you đđ¤
February 22, 2025 at 10:49 am in reply to: Understanding someone who's recently divorced and not ready #443149Dafne
ParticipantDear Anita,
Thank you so much for your understanding đ and for not dismissing my feelings.
Your message helps me even more to see my fear for what it is and the impacte it caused in my life. I feel that we got to the source of it.
I just need to deal with my emotions in a way that they won’t control me and in the end destroy my whole being.
It all would not be possible without your constant and reliable support Anita.
He wrote me another message:
Him: “At the moment, I don’t feel able to take the car and come to see you, but you can come to see me”
Him: “Normally I shouldn’t be up, but I’m in good spirits đ ”
Me: “You need to rest and get better. I’m not in my best form either. Also I feel that we need some time off…have a good night and wish you get better soon”
I hope I gave him a hint in a no defensive manner. Let’s see…
Anita, once again thank you for being here and I hope with time things will improve.
Have a lovely day! âī¸đĒģ
Big hug to you! đ¤
February 22, 2025 at 7:54 am in reply to: Understanding someone who's recently divorced and not ready #443143Dafne
ParticipantHello Jana,
Thank you for sharing. The more I try to work with my emotions the more anxious I get. I don’t know why…
I grew up in household where I could not speak up my mind without being punished one way or the other. Every day I had a deep fear of consequences and being rejected by the only people I care about.
Now I feel guilty that I offend him, hurt his feelings and leave him in the difficult time. He told me about his health issues.
I feel sorry for him…
And I am afraid that I won’t get another chance to find another friend and somehow also escape my reality at home. I live in a remote place and
my options are limited.I hope that helps you to understand me better.
Thank you Jana đ đ¸
February 22, 2025 at 1:25 am in reply to: Understanding someone who's recently divorced and not ready #443134Dafne
ParticipantDear Anita,
I know that you’re right and want the best for me. It is just emotionally hard for me and something is holding me back now. I don’t know how to brake free and feel good after that decision without guilty conscious.
Your idea of engaging in some enjoyable activities is great đ There are not too many possibilities around here but I’ll try to focus on finding something.
Thank you and talk to you later Anita! â¤ī¸
February 21, 2025 at 1:49 pm in reply to: Understanding someone who's recently divorced and not ready #443054Dafne
ParticipantHello Jana,
Thank you for your reply. I’m glad to read your perspective on that. I agree with you and Anita đ¯ but internally it feels so hard to let go.
You can read my message above and an update from this man. His health issues make me hesitate to end it right away. I just don’t have it in me to say goodbye after reading his new messages.
You said it right, my energy goes in the wrong direction and I need another man to be happy đ
I just feel horrible to do it right now…
February 21, 2025 at 1:41 pm in reply to: Understanding someone who's recently divorced and not ready #443053Dafne
ParticipantDear Anita,
Good to hear from you again! Thank you for getting back to me on such a short notice.
Your timeline reminder was very helpful to keep me focused again and more rational. There was a little hope in me but I can see now that meeting him might backfire and lead to more disappointments. And that keeping him as a friend may not be the best idea either…
I reduced texting and told him that I can’t see him at the moment.
I did not want to end things right there as I know now that he is going through some health issues. And he mentioned having a very difficult time. I don’t want that his health gets worse because of me…
I just opened his new message and it looks like it is true and he is struggling. He did send me his new blood test results and there is some issues that obviously stressed him out. I did not expect this at all.
Him: ‘I think we worked well with the team,đ I’m a bit knocked out recently, and I have some health issues, which I have to sort out next week đĨš’
Him: ‘Sorry to bother you with this, it’ll be fine, but it’s true that lately I’ve been a bit ko đ ”
Anita, in a strange way I feel really sorry for him and don’t have it in me to end it like that (knowing that he is not well).
It feels like an emotional roller coaster. One part of me wants to end it but the other is feeling guilty and empathetic.
Anita, shall I wait till he gets better and for now just leave it as it is?
I really appreciate your help đ and looking forward to reading your soon.
Thank you again for keeping me on the right path đ
Have a good evening đ¤
February 21, 2025 at 6:47 am in reply to: Understanding someone who's recently divorced and not ready #443032Dafne
ParticipantDear Anita,
Thank you so much for your kind words of appreciation and making me feel so welcome đ
I did not send you my original, short message as I wanted to add a little update.
He keeps writing about the project and I’m trying to avoid asking him too much. But he keeps pushing. He wants to convince me that it is not just a dream. He told me that if I promise not to share his business plan with anyone else, he will send it to me. I said ‘ok, if you trust me, send it to me and I won’t share the sensitive details’.
But once I said ok, he said that he will show it to me on his tablet (instead of sending) as there are some numbers and salaries included. So he wants future with me but hides information? Why did he ask me in the first place? đ
He said that it is better to meet one of the people he is working with to make me believe him more.
You were right again, seems like it all goes in circles…
Now, he really wants to meet me and show me the plan. I think out of courtesy, I could meet one time and if he tries making any future plans again or romantic gestures, I could simply say that after his disappearance last week, I feel that I need some time…and that we could continue but only on a friendly note?
Is that a good idea Anita? Would you say something else instead?
To be honest, I’m trying to distance myself as much as I can but somehow he doesn’t let me. He just doesn’t give up easily…now the relief of unblocking me turns into a frustration…
I don’t know how to establish the emotional distance anymore…
What would you suggest Anita?
I hope you are well & could find some time to rest more.
Have a good weekend!
Warm hugs and talk to you soon đĢđ¤February 19, 2025 at 5:00 am in reply to: Understanding someone who's recently divorced and not ready #442965Dafne
ParticipantDear Anita,
I’m happy to read your message and thank you again for your encouragement đ¤
I’m locking all the beautiful advice & your kind
words in my heart.Have a lovely day & I’m hoping to come back one day with some great news đ
Take care! xxxx
February 18, 2025 at 2:46 pm in reply to: Understanding someone who's recently divorced and not ready #442958Dafne
ParticipantDear Anita,
Thank you so much for both of your messages. You adressed everything in such a compassionate and loving way that it really touched me so deep â¤ī¸
I really don’t know where I would be if not you taking care of me. It felt like you were holding my hand while I was going through the storm of emotions. So my thank you is just a very little I can do for you now đ¤
I still need to navigate the life at home so that another bad brake down doesn’t lead me to the dark path again…
I know now that you’re here so it should be different this time…
I’ll also try to apply all the advice you gave me regarding the self care and boundaries. I really struggle to do that at the moment. But now I know that someone in this world cares about me and that I can give this life another chance đ
And I’ll keep my eyes open regarding the spider đˇ probably once he realises that nothing is the same anymore and that he can’t treat me like that again…he’ll give up & try to catch another fly đĒ°
Thank you for being with me on this journey Anita
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And I hope that we both find inner peace and happiness despite missing out on being loved and appreciated in the past â¨ī¸Big big hug đ¤ to you and once again thank you for all you’ve done for me! â¤ī¸
Have a good evening and take a good care of yourself!
February 18, 2025 at 7:24 am in reply to: Understanding someone who's recently divorced and not ready #442938Dafne
ParticipantDear Anita,
Thank you for your understanding. Yes, I wish that I can spot the spider very quickly and avoid their web as soon as possible without any emotional damage. I’m glad you are here to guide me with that đ
I can see that he keeps writing messages to me now and is contemplating to meet me very soon. All the smiley emoticons are back too…
Internally, like you said Anita, it is not easy for me to move on from him right now. But I really hope that one day I will be able to escape from that emotional prison and feel free and happy with a decent, honest and humble human.
Thank you Anita for your constant presence. I enjoy talking to you and I wish that this suffering will stop soon. And that one day I can come back with good news and something positive to say đ
Have a lovely morning & talk to you soon đ
February 17, 2025 at 2:21 pm in reply to: Understanding someone who's recently divorced and not ready #442921Dafne
ParticipantDear Anita,
Thank you for saying that again and believing in me đ I’m an old soul, maybe too old school for this modern world. Maybe the values we hold are invisible or not appreciated anymore by many men or people in general.
Maybe that was another reason why this man got my attention. He seemed to want the same life as me, presenting similar values. But now you’re helping me to see that it all might be just a spider web đˇđ¸
For me you are a beautiful soul too with lots of love, understanding and compassion.
Enjoy your evening Anita
Talk to you tomorrow đFebruary 17, 2025 at 12:34 pm in reply to: Understanding someone who's recently divorced and not ready #442916Dafne
ParticipantDear Anita,
You’re right Anita. What feels good isn’t always what’s best for us. It felt good to receive the message as I did not want to stop all the contact without having a closure. I always want to make the things right on my part (not just with him but with all my interractions with people). And especially with people I care about.
When I said that I wanted my answers, I meant that I wanted to know why he got so upset that day and if I really caused him some distress, I did not want to end it on that negative note.
He unblocked me on the other media today and said that he felt a lot of pain last week and prays for the peace and joy again. Can you believe that Anita?
Him: “Hi Dafne, yes with time and meditation peace comes back, with confidence too đđ đĢ”
Him: “I wrote to you on WhatsApp, I hope peace returns, but I was in too much pain last week, đ
Me: “Hi, we all were in pain last week…my mother as well đĢ I pray for harmony & joy in our hearts đ”
Him: “I am aware that we have all had pain, I felt like I was a liar or a dreamer which is not the case, I hope that we find peace and trust between us, I would like to introduce you soon to the people with whom I work.”
Him: “in relation to my work last Tuesday it was very important, and it is working, I will show you the writings đ how was your day?
Me: “the day was a bit hard. I feel tired…”
Him: “there is still flu at this time…take care to rest. I hope we’ll be in good health.”
So now Anita it all seems back to normal…
He expressed his feelings and wants to carry on but somehow I don’t feel like it anymore. The trust is gone and the fear to be blocked again creeps in like the fog.
And I know that I can’t trust the spider again as he already showed his true colors last week.
I’m not questioning about his project anymore and just said that I feel tired now. I don’t feel the same like before.
Would you continue replying to his messages? What if he suggests a meeting?
It is true Anita that he doesn’t have many friends. I asked why before. He told me that had many before but only if there was a good time but once he needed something or real life came, all friends disappeared or were not that helpful. So he prefers to have 1 or 2 friends but of quality. But it looks like he gets offended very easily without really discussing things in a calm manner…
Anita, I think that my self esteem is based on my belief that I am less because I do not have the family I always dreamed of. And my lack of ability to choose the romantic partner for life? And also to quickly recognise the spider and say no! đ
I don’t know how you got so strong and overcame those feelings of being not enough? I feel really proud of you đ¤ I was working on myself as much as I could so I don’t feel like a victim all the time. But no strategy that I’ve tried is working.
What else can I do for my self-care? And for my self confidence despite what has happened in my childhood?
And now there is you who helps me in a gentle, yet assertive way to not fall too deep down â¤ī¸ Thank you again Anita…
I feel there is not enough thank you for what you’re doing for me đ
Hope to hear from you soon…
Have a beautiful day Anita đ
February 16, 2025 at 2:03 pm in reply to: Understanding someone who's recently divorced and not ready #442891Dafne
ParticipantDear Anita,
Thank you for your fast reply! I understand completely and please don’t force yourself to reply tonight. The rest can wait till tomorrow and he was so merciless leaving me without any word for those past days…he can wait too…
So I won’t say anything right and reply tomorrow as I might say the wrong thing to him…
Have a peaceful evening đ
Talk to you tomorrow Anita đ¤
February 16, 2025 at 1:04 pm in reply to: Understanding someone who's recently divorced and not ready #442887Dafne
ParticipantDear Anita,
Thank you for this insightful summary đ It really seems that he is busy with both projects at the same time! Showing me the property ads (without directly asking for help) could be his way of making me take a loan (but voluntarily).
It did not happen so he was waiting…And now the spider is back!
I feel relieved that he replied and I can have some answers but there is no apology whatsoever. And I’m still blocked on the other media.
He said that he is sad that we cannot understand each other but he doesn’t want this to end.
His further reply: “But I work in a team, it is linked to politics, I know that it is an atypical job, but I also have my food business on the side (he told me before that it was only admin work), and I have a hard time with the successive discouragements between you and your mother. I want your happiness and your security, but I can’t do more, abandoning what I do is not smart given the people involved.”
My reply: “I also feel sad about that. Please know that our intention was not to discourage you but actually to motivate you”
Him: “I didn’t feel this as encouragement but rather the opposite, because for both of you a successful deal in 1 month. In UK, at the institutional level, it takes us several months to get an appointment. As I told you, on the Italian side, in 4 months almost everything is ready. We are looking to do business in order to be part of the stores and really earn by investing in the joint venture, otherwise it is the investors who will earn more than us. I hope we will keep in touch, I wish you a lot of good and you know, I am sad about this situation.”
Me: “Life is not always easy. Some projects need more time. That’s true. But we need to learn to communicate better for the next time so we do not hurt each other by sudden disappearance or lack of understanding that.”
Do you agree with me?
Him:”I agree with you, but I am neither a dreamer, nor a liar, nor irresponsible, I give myself the means to go all the way, the project for two, family life is the most beautiful, but we must not give up what we do. I regret that you did not meet my friend who is a specialist in Asia, my partner in the UK who is linked to cinema or the Italian businessman who did a great job. But I introduced you to other friends who are jealous, they did not even call me for New Year’s Day. They are not people in this kind of business capable of talking, it was a mistake to introduce them to you, instead of reassuring you they put stress on you, I would not have done it”
That’s it Anita…I did not continue replying to this message as I don’t really know what else can I say? Those are his best friends and now he thinks that. I can’t say anything about them as I don’t know them that well. He said some nice words about the beauty of a family life but there is nothing new…
What else shall I say? And is it wise to continue texting him without him unblocking me on the other media?
What do you think of this whole situation now Anita?
I did not really expect him to reply but I’m glad you supported me with the choice I’ve made. And I’ll be even more careful right now as like you said he still might be a spider!
It feels a little bit like a plot from a dark movie now.
I can’t wait to read you Anita đ
I’ll wait for your suggestions so I don’t make the same mistake like last time đĢĸđ
Have a good day! And thank you again for being here with me and not leaving me by myself đ
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