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    I know i am.  (the good parts).  I do think about the bad too.  I try to tell myself that i would be on edge or eggshells the entire time.  I just miss her that’s all.  Even the bad parts.  It’s just going to take me time.  More time than i would like it to be.  When you have your heart touched like that.  Or at least me.  It’s so hard to just “shut it off”.  Was very tough weekend for me.  I am working or pushing through it.  Just hard.

    John
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    I miss her so much

    this weekend has been really hard. Last year this weekend we took one of our trips together. I’m crying typing this

    I’m  trying. It’s so tough though. I just want to hold her. I would do anything for that

    A friend of mine told me it took him two years to get over his ex. I hope it doesn’t take me that long.

    It hurts so much.

    John
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    I realized this morning that I feel like she finally got to break out of her shell and enjoy life like she should. EG: she finally is selling her house, doing things, new job, etc. all the things that I wanted for her. And then I got left in the dust of the aftermath of getting there. Back to my life before her.

    John
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    Nextsteps,

    Thank you for your advice and input.  you are right.  I need to quit asking why and accept that she was done.  Regardless of the reason, she is and has moved on with someone else.  It is hard like you said though.

    I want to love like that again and feel loved like that again.  I desperately do.  That was the best feeling in the world.  The feeling of knowing that i would sacrifice and do anything for someone, without a question or doubt.  Just because.  I know it’s going to take me a long time to get over that and to stop thinking about her or missing her.  And yes it hurts.  Everyday.  Somedays are better than others, but it still hurts.  I do know i’m not the only one that has gone through a similar situation.  but this is my first time ever feeling like this.  Trying to process it all and get through it is very hard and miserable at times.  I do want to be myself again.  I used to be happy, even before i met her.  I have every reason in the world to be happy now.  It’s just difficult to be when i miss her everyday.  It has been over 6 months now and I still think about her when i wake up and off and on through the day.  I don’t want to, i try to think of other things and do other things.  It just hurts.  Yes, i’ve cried.  I’ve cried over this probably more than i have in my lifetime combined.  Or at least that’s how it feels.  losing what i thought i had is devastating to anyone.  I may just not be able to cope with it like some people do.  I am really trying though.  It’s not fair to my friends, family, and kids.  Especially to myself.

    I’m such a romantic, no matter what i know as facts and as plain and blunt as it can be, i still have this hope..” someday she will come back”  I’m trying to get it into my head that she wants nothing to do with me anymore and is happy with her new man.  but  I’ll still have this hope of feeling that someday she will miss me or what we had and want to try.  I really wish that would go away.  I try every day to forget it and to accept it won’t happen.

    I do know that i have to move on and find happiness in myself and with someone else.  it is hard when i feel like i’m still holding onto this fantasy of her coming back to me.  Maybe that’s why i can’t give myself to someone like i should, because i’m afraid if i do, then someday she comes back into my life i won’t know what to do.

    I appreciate you all so much.  I really do wish i found this site  long before it all went bad.  I am trying to be positive and to move on.  I really am.  I can’t wait for the day I don’t hurt inside or miss her anymore.  I really can’t.  Going through life every day with those feelings is not a way to live.

    thanks again.

    John
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    “She even told you that during the wedding weekend in Vegas a guy asked her to go back to his room with her and “make some bad decisions”. (Why she would even share that with you at all I don’t know, but maybe it’s because she was flattered by it and had to share it with others, even her boyfriend?)”

    You know i never thought about this before, but she has always been a jealous type.  If it would of been reversed and i told her that.  she would of flipped out.  In fact our last night together we were at a halloween party.  She was dancing with a friend.  I went outside and bought a smoke off of some lady outside.  I was out there just smoking and taking(being polite) I even told that lady i was here with my GF.  She came out side looking for me and lost her cool because i was having a conversation with some other woman.  Even though she new i would never do anything or have thoughts of this.  Come to think of it.   After her vegas weekend i was with her and I was talking to our receptionist at work.  She was listening to the conversation and said something about me flirting or being a flirt.  I can’t remember.  But I wasn’t…

    I really don’t know or never will what happened to change all of this.  I honestly think something did happen that weekend.  She may have not cheated, but she may have messed around or flirted.  And after that felt guilty and i was the fall out.  Because that is when everything changed.  I know if it would of been me going away for a weekend like that and then coming back and acting the way she did.  She would of automatically assumed the worst.

    Dang, okay how bout this.  I just remembered.  Before that weekend we had talked about things all the time.  One of them was that neither of us would ever cheat on each other.  We both have been cheated on before and would never do that.  After that weekend she had told me “IF” i ever cheated on you I would break up with you.  Why would it change from never to “IF” and that was the same weekend she told me about that guy.

    It is pretty funny(not haha) how before that weekend, she was excited about when we get to live together and have a real life together, then after that weekend, cold fish.  and even mean.

    I do have to quit blaming myself.  I know i made plenty of mistakes, but i was there trying to figure out what was happening and wanted to correct them.  She was the one that did not communicate with me like she should of.  She was the one that kept telling me everything was “fine” when it wasn’t.  She was the one that didn’t want to be completely honest with me about how she was feeling either.  It was both of us, but for me.  I was so on edge, I was afraid to do or say  anything else to lose her, where all she had to do was one of the times I asked her if it was ok.  Tell me we need to talk and sit down with me and tell me that she was seeing things in me that we’re turning her away.  Things that i could of easily worked on or fixed if i would of known.  Things that I fix about myself now.  I don’t want to ever be that guy that i “changed” into.

     

    Yes, she was the woman of my dreams.  She is beautiful, successful, funny, loves a lot of the same things I do, Sexy, loves being a mother and great with my girls.  She was nothing I ever expected I would end up with.  I know i’ve always had a low self esteem.(probably from my upbringing).  And to have someone like that love me?  I was taken back.  I didn’t know how to behave and I guess maybe that is the hard thing.  Losing that and the rejection.  Feeling like i will never get a woman like that again.

    So Yesterday was a tough one for me.  I did think about her pretty much all day.  But today is a new one.  I’m trying to forget.  I know it will take a long time.  But i am.

    John
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    Okay, i’m trying here.  I really am.  I’m trying to take all this in and use  your advice and accept everything you are saying.   It is very hard to not get defensive and understand this.

    If i seem immature.  maybe I am?  Some of the things i do say though, that’s just the way i talk.

    I am trying to push through it and move on with my life with other things and people.  It’s just hard.  I was building a life with her.  And then it was gone in what felt like overnight.  With her it may have been a couple months or more in the coming, but i was blind sighted.  Very hard to deal with.

    the whole rejection thing.  Well i don’t know if i have an issue with that or not.  According to you i do.  So maybe i do.  Maybe an ego thing?  I never did before her.  even when my ex-wife left. I didn’t act this way with her.

    Maybe I am co-dependat, although i was alone for 2 yrs before i met her, and when i dated before her i didn’t get like this.

    I really need some time to re-read all of this again.  This is tough.  i’m trying to get a grip on it all and deal with it and move on.  It is hard.  I know i keep saying that, but it is.  She just felt so right.  I can’t explain it.  I thought she was the one for me.  maybe that is a rejection thing.  I thought i had my life partner after  looking for so long and now she is gone.  and with someone else.

    I need some time to figure this out.

    John
    Participant

    huh.  Well i don’t know about all of that.  Needing an audience thing.  I guess if you weren’t there through the end of what i went through, then it may be hard to really see it.  There is no exaggeration of how i felt and feel.  To give you an example.  When we broke up, i did go into a deep depression.  I didn’t want to see or talk to anyone.  I wasn’t looking for an audience.  Yes i did get on match right away.  But I think that was more of a spiteful and bitterness thing.  Thought i’ll just find someone else…  Well that didn’t work out for me.  I seriously lost my head in a bad way.  My friends were worried about me.  They actually told my sister this last weekend that i’m just now starting to act normal again.  They were there for me, but i didn’t want to see any of them.  Or anyone for the longest time.

    It’s really hard to explain this.  maybe i’m using the wrong words.  I know that before i met her, i did date and was seeing women. I dated one for a couple months and another for about a month and a half(not at the same time) and was talking to a couple others.  None of them gave me the feelings she did.  Especially so fast.  After our first night together, I was hooked, i had feelings i never felt before.  I cancelled all my online dating accounts and told everyone I was talking to that I found someone.  And it was great.  There was hard parts, but it was great.  When she left it seriously really destroyed me.  It was bad enough that if i did not have my girls, i don’t know if i would be here now.  And i’m not exaggerating or being dramatic or looking for a response or attention.  At that time, that was the only way i could see myself being able to forget and not feel pain anymore.  That is the truth.  There were several times i thought about it.  That’s why i started  counseling and got on antidepressants.  For the first month after we broke up, my ex-wife had to keep the girls most of the time because i could barley function enough to take care of myself.  I seriously fell apart.  I didn’t do anything with anyone of my friends for the longest time after.  I had never felt like that before.  I’ve never experienced a “broken heart” like that.  I dated and tried to find a “replacement” off and on for a while.  I shouldn’t of, i should of just remained alone.  I think that made things worse.  I actually met one  person that had went through a similar situation with her ex-husband.  I shared everything with her and she helped me and  was there for me.  We dated for a month or two, Unfortunately i could not develop feelings for her like i hoped i could have.  She was willing to do anything for me.  She shared her experience with me and it was almost identical.  She told me she even attempted taking her life.  She was well over this when we met.  But everything i told her was like a repeat of what she went through.  Even the fact that her ex husband had a similar stomach surgery like my ex did, and the timeline that he just decided to end things was the same as my ex’s.  They both “changed” about the same time after the surgery.  About 6 months after the surgery.  Just when she had really lost a lot of weight and was starting to really feel better and look a lot better.  (I loved her and how she looked before the surgery BTW).  I did find out later that that is not an odd thing.  I looked into it and there are several cases of people after the stomach surgery they change there thinking or whatever.

    I really don’t know.  I do know i still hurt for her.  I still miss her.  Right now it feels like i always will.  Even last night, i was having flashback memories of us being together on my couch just watching tv and holding her hand.  Believe me , i don’t want this.  I want her to be flushed from my brain.  It would of been easier if she would of died.  I feel like the time i had with her was the greatest time of my life(except at the very end of coarse).  But even with that, i wish i would  of never met her.  It hurts too much too often.  I was getting past it, then we started talking again and all those feelings came rushing back.   It is hard to deal with.  That’s really how i feel.  I am going to try my hardest never to contact her again.  I know when ever i do and she responds it puts false hope in my heart.  I can’t handle that.  It has been a week now since we’ve texted.  I just hope that she doesn’t reach out to me after her man goes back to work in another state in a couple weeks.  I am weak.  I know that.  I used to not be, but i am now.

    John
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    Anita, I’ll try to answer the best I can.

    With my ex. What I meant by a fantasy or in the movies was that we fell in love hard and true. I do know that I fell for her harder and sooner than she did for me. But she was in love in a big way. That is what she showed me. We had nonstop communication throughout the majority of our relationship. We both were looking forward to the day that her youngest son graduated and left Home so she could live here with me. We referred to it as the two year plan. In fact we started talking about it after we were together for about 4 months. She was the one looking at houses in my area and was looking at work prospects here. She did things for me that I never had before. She was always thinking of me. It was seriously like a movie romance. Maybe I thought it was too good to be true and somehow subconsciously sabotaged it. She was even talking about marriage with me not even a month before the wedding weekend.  She even told me that she hoped her boys would grow up to be like me.

    For me “waiting”. When things started getting hard for her it felt like I was getting pushed aside. Like I wasn’t important anymore. That’s when I started to panic. I thought I was doing something wrong. Which at that time I wasn’t. She just had too much shit and it was hard for her to share with me. When she did instead of listening and supporting I was trying to fix everything. With her, her kids, her work, and her family. That’s what caused her to pull away more. She told me this recently. Then my problem was in my insecurity I looked to the internet for anwsers. I read that in a long distance relationship that you should have set regular days or time together. You should talk every night if you can. And more. So I brought that up. That we need to start having one weekend together just us and try to have two nights a month during the week that we had dinner. And one weekend with us and the kids. I was trying to save something that I thought was failing and she saw it as me being needy and controlling. She needed to be able to take it day by day. No planning or set “schedules”.

    what was hard for me to handle was that before all the shit hit. We had somewhat of a regular thing. She would call me certain times of the day and almost every night before bed. We would text on average at least once every couple hours and if I didn’t text she would miss me. When all of this slowed down. I didn’t know what to think. I didn’t see that she was dealing with shit that had nothing to do with me and I took it personal like I was causing it. Which I eventually did by constantly bugging when she needed time and space.

    I seriously could not read between the lines and I took everything as somethings my I was doing and in trying to make it better I made it worse. Even after we broke up I couldn’t leave it alone (surprise lol). I fell apart. I got on match within a week looking for something. Looking for her. (Figuratively). She found out. And that made things even worse. I know I made a lot of mistakes. I know she did too. She should of sat me down when she was noticing things and talked to me about them but she didn’t. Not until this last month did she really tell me everything. I know if she would of told me that she she was noticing I would of backed off. If she could of told me straight out that I was trying to fix her and all she wanted was me to listen and not give advice. Or if she really needed to get through this on her own. When she talked to me about her problems. I took it as a cry for help. Instead it was just a need to vent.

    I think that’s one of the hardest things for me. I don’t feel like I ever got the chance to fix my problems with her. I know that maybe she was done and did t want to try. But I feel like if I could of. Things would of been better.

    I feel cheated out of being able to make it better.  And now I feel like for her her world is finally coming together and what we were both waiting for is happening  she is moving out of the house she hated(it was her and her ex-husbands)  she is starting a new job which she hated her old one  and now she is finally getting out and doing things with friends where before she never did  only with me.  And I feel like some other guy gets to enjoy the butterfly I was waiting for.  I know it’s selfish, just how I feel.

    As for my ex-wife. We basically grew into roommates living together. I think that’s why it didn’t hit me like this when she left. As time went on we just became close like best friends. She has been wonderful through all of this. Really been good support.

    My sister lives on the other side of the US. I went and visited her about 3-4 years ago and she hasn’t been able to come over here because of her new business. And me going over there cost a lot. Between me and my girls. And time off work. I don’t have a lot of money. So…

    with my oldest daughter. I only got her every other weekend (different mother than my other girls). So thAt was tough. She did live with me for a year then moved to my sisters. She took advantage of her and me.  Burned us both bad. It wasn’t until last December she came to me and aloplogized and admitted her wrongs. That’s why we are talking now.

    I do have a good life. I have a great group of friends that would do anything for me. Family as well. My little girls are fantastic and they show me love everyday. I also have a potential life partner that wants nothing but to make me happy and she does. I try to enjoy what I have and do things to replace memories and make new ones.

    May problem is that no matter of all this and how much I should be grateful and happy, I can’t stop missing her. All of everything else combined doesn’t make me as happy as I was with her. Just hearing her voice on a voicemail would make my day. Seeing her text that she loved me and missed me would make my week. Having a day with her would make my month. I know that sounds bad but that’s the way I felt. I was 100% head over heals in love with her. I would of done anything. (If I would of know that I didn’t need to do anything…) I’m afraid I still would. I can’t get over that feeling. I’m really trying. I’m trying to be thankful for what I have and embrace it all. But it feels like everything I do reminds me of her. Even camping this last weekend. I kept thinking about the last time we went camping together.

    I don’t know this feeling. I never had it before. I just want to be done. I want to never think of her again. But then I still have hope that someday she will contact me again. How retarded is that?  I can’t let go and accept that she is happy without me. With someone else.

    Jeeze. I’m writing a book again.

    I hope I answered some things. If there are more, please chime in. I really appreciate it all. I know I’m hard headed and I’m tryimg to answer everything. So please be patient with me. Thank you all for your support. I really wish I would of found this website when things first started to get wierd.

    John
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    I’m thinking after  I re-read and answer all your questions and we get that all settled…  I’m going to have to take a break from this.  basically anything to do with her that reminds me of her.  this is insane.  I feel so helpless and pathetic.  i used to be so strong, anything would roll off of me.  now …  i don’t know what has happened to me.  I thank you all for your patience and support.  I will get back to you soon…

    John
    Participant

    I’m seriously losing my shit.  Not trying to be dramatic or anything, but it feels like it did when she wanted a break and then when we split up.  Except all i can think of is her having the time of her life, and here i am.  I’m really trying to enjoy all the good things. but damn.  my brain will not shut off.  She really did a number on me.

     

    Like i said, i will read that stuff tonight.  I feel like my heart hasn’t beaten all day.  🙁

    John
    Participant

    okay, i’m going to print out a bunch of this so i can sit down and really re-read it.  try to get it all in and be able to answer all the questions.  I will repost later tonight or tomorrow.  I try to get to this when i can at work, and on my phone at home.  I really need to focus on this though.

     

    BTW, i’m still hurting today.  can’t stop thinking about her at all…  I need a lobotomy!!

    John
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    Well this officially sucks.  I think me and her talking or texting again has really set see back.  I haven’t texted here since last Thursday.  Now i feel like i’m going through withdrawals again.  Like Anitia said about a drug.  I woke up this morning really said and lonely.  Really missing her bad  I have found that have been frowning all day.  This really hurts again.  Seriously almost feels like we just broke up again.  i’ve found myself wondering if she had fun camping with her new family/friends this weekend.  wondering if she misses me at all.  I know the answers, that doesn’t mean i don’t think about it or feel that way.

    Why is it so hard just to forget her.   It really hurts today.  really bad.  I try to not let it consume me.  I try to focus on other things, but i can’t.  My current even texted me this morning and i didn’t want to answer her.  How bad is that?  I really hope that someday she fades away like you’ve said.  I can’t do this forever.  It hurts so much.  I hope your okay with me whining to you.  You are the only ones that i can really talk about this with.  Man i feel really depressed and hurt.  this is freaking amazing.  How someone can bring you so much joy and happiness in your life and they can also bring you so much pain and misery.  WOW!  I really need a hug from someone.  damn!

    John
    Participant

    I think as time went on I just started feeling like I wasn’t good enough or something. I really think it was a combination of all of her problems and her really needing time to just be alone to deal with it her way. I didn’t know how to handle that and it did make me feel insecure. I did try bringing it up to her and she would get upset. Like it was all about me. Which I do see know that she needed just for me to be there for her when she needed to help her on her terms. Instead I took it personal and freaked out.

    is what it is. I am trying to accept that. Maybe it’s my ego. I don’t know. I am looking forward to the day that I don’t tbink about her or miss her anymore. Today was not one of them. All I thought about was her camping with him this year. Wondering if she had fun. I’m sure she did.

    John
    Participant

    Brandy. She did say she loved me. Over and over. And she showed it in ways I never felt. Yes she also made me feel like It was at her convienence at times though. But she really did express the same feelings I did for her.

    I think you may have a point though. She is beatiful. Succesful, independent, and did things that I really admired.

    I cant explain it. I do know when she left I felt like I lost myself. So maybe she did make me feel more worth of myself.

    i Didn’t feel like I was good enough for her. No matter how she acted or what she told me. I was always afraid I wouldn’t be good enough. It caused me to become insecure and i think that’s when I started to get controlling. I was trying to plan our relationship. Have set days or weekends instead of  just letting it happen like I did before.

    As far as my camping trip. Holy broken quads Batman!  Well my sister came with us(haven’t seen her in 4 years). I took her for a quick ride. Then the first morning I took out my quad and broke some stuff. Had to drive for 4 hours to get parts I needed.  I ended up working on it all weekend at camp. Got it fixed by 5pm the last night so I could go for one ride. (My current friend/girlfriend/whatever she is showed up then)  Then my daughter quad broke too.   Got some work to do before the fourth. You play you pay. Right. Lol.

    I did have a fun weekend though. Definitely need to change up the RV though. Still had a lot of memories. ?

    John
    Participant

    Brandy, thanks again.  you continue to make good points.  I am really trying.  It is hard.  i guess when i say some of those things, i am desperate.  and i’m sure it sounds desperate.  i will really try to get through this and on.  I do have a lot of good in my life.  Great bunch of friends, beautiful kids, going to be a grandpa in november, and a potential good woman that want nothing but to take care of me(if i can figure out if i can do that with her)  Man i just wish i could forget how my ex made me feel.  It’s like i keep seeing her as this golden intangible thing that i have to have.  stupid.  i really don’t want to text her anymore, or make any contact.  I’m going to try my best.  No point in it now that she said what she did.  just prolongs my suffering.

    please keep talking to me.  I really do like this support you give to me.  i need it.

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