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October 25, 2017 at 12:56 pm #174883Elliot8Participant
Hi,
I hope that times are not too difficult but i know i am in for some bumps in the road so to speak. Strange thing is that earlier on i was offered another job somewhere else doing tree surgery on the railways with some time working away. It will be more money but if anything has hit home is how much i want to spend time with my family and kids but i will give it some thought.
I hope i made the right choice, it has been a rough 5 months but i will push on. Like you said. Nothing is perfect.
Thank you anita and wherever you post from i hope the sun is shining for you.
October 25, 2017 at 10:39 am #174819Elliot8ParticipantHi anita,
Well i did it. Informed him today that i was leaving and he went nuts. He refused to shake my hand which was pathetic seeing as how he has treated me!
I am scared, worried and nervous and we will be poorer but i hope to become a better husband and father and maybe a better person.
October 22, 2017 at 1:13 pm #174233Elliot8ParticipantHi,
Yes indeed i will let you know the outcome as soon as…
Thanks again, you are very kind.
E
October 22, 2017 at 12:06 pm #174223Elliot8ParticipantHey,
Thank you for your time and response. I do not mean to offend you by talking about suicide it’s just that at times since May things in my head have almost been unbearable.
I truly think that 2 is the best, but not perfect by a long shot! I just have to be brave now and go to bed tonight knowing that i have to stand up to him and say the words ” i resign with immediate effect”
I have never done that though so it will be hard an i am scared off what the future may bring. For me and more importantly my family.
Thank you anita. You are very kind to respond and have been a moment of clarity and light in a very dark place.
E
October 22, 2017 at 10:53 am #174211Elliot8ParticipantOh,
Option 2 will entail a lot less money and stress fianancelly!
October 22, 2017 at 10:49 am #174207Elliot8ParticipantHi,
Thanks again for replying.
Choice 1: I stick at it, try and just think of the money but hate him and the situation and also not be the husband,father that i could/should be but be able to provide in a relatively stable job (Until the next time they do it to me! Massive trust issues now i am afraid!) It isn’t a physical job but the stress of everything that goes along with it is very hard. Ironically enough i found out Fri that the person making my life so miserable has a job interview mon in a different role so if he gets it maybe that is worth considering as a reason to stay? Bad timing though as i need to know by thurs.
Choice 2: This week i jack and go. Maybe burn a bridge and perhaps that will maybe return to haunt me in the future? Do my induction for my new job fri and return to what i know but for less money, harder physical work but hopefully (?) have less stress and work with nicer people. Again i have trust issues, know what a lot of people in my industry are like and am not sure that i will ever work in a place without nasty, selfish people. Maybe within a new company something different will arise and perhaps i may have a new career within my industry ? I know tough that if i turn them down again then that will be it.
Choice 3: I end my life! sorry, but to me that is a choice. My father in law this afternoon said to me that that Company is not worth your life, marriage or relationship with your kids. It is killing me and when i awake in the dead of night i think this what death must be like? Silent and black.
There you have it.
That is as best as i can summarise the situation.
Thanks again.
October 21, 2017 at 12:16 pm #174125Elliot8ParticipantHi,
Thanks for replying. It’s funny because the employer offered me counselling after putting me through all of this and the lady i spoke to said pretty much the same thing. I just do not know what to do. Every choice i make leads me to the wrong place eventually, i seem to bumble through life with a “cursed road-map”.
I know if i stay there is a fair chance that this will break me but i am not sure if just jacking next week will be any better.? I could possibly make a decision that could cost my family everything and i wonder if it is better that i just stick it out for them. But i cannot believe i am going through this, i have tried so hard in my life to work hard and not take advantage of people and look where i am now. Also is it really possible in life not to meet nasty, horrible, selfish people?
Contemplating suicide seems my only option, that or i have an accident and it ends that way.
August 25, 2017 at 1:55 pm #165654Elliot8ParticipantHello Cheryl,
No worries. I know what you are going through i truly do. The sleepless nights worrying about what the next day will bring can be agonising and it all seems so out of control. I have thought so many times that i “do not want to be here” and i worry that one day i will put that thought into practice. But like the other lady who replied said just do what we can, as we can. My current role is overwhelming as a lot of the aspects that deem it a success are things that are way out of my control (weather, landowners refusing entry to sites, contractors doing poor work when i am not there) but i can only do so much and i, like you am going to try and take it one step at a time.
Take care and keep me posted on how you are going, it will be good for me to be able to share to!
E.
August 24, 2017 at 8:05 am #165440Elliot8ParticipantHello,
You seem to have done so much already you should be proud. If your family are accepting of who you are, want to be then more power to you. You were born and had no choice over certain aspects but if you know in your heart who you should be then go for it.
You are on the pinnacle of achieving some amazing things and at 20 you have a lot of time and don’t feel guilty about being depressed, these things are all relative and what is of importance to you. I am trying to fight that battle myself and finally admitted to my wife yesterday that i am depressed and it is something that is in me, has been for years ,regardless of my circumstances at the time i will always look for a negative in a situation rather than a positive.
If your best friend is really that then they will accept you and as for your small town worries. Shove em! You have the propensity and the talent to be able to do something someone like me could only dream of!
I am form the UK and i don’t know much about London but i do know it is a very cosmopolitan city.
Good luck and take care.
E
August 24, 2017 at 7:52 am #165434Elliot8ParticipantHi Cheryl,
I joined this site 2 days ago, my first reply was in the “cant seem to get away from negative thoughts” thread which is on the 2nd page. if you are interested because a brief history of what i am going through, have been through is on it. I know exactly how you feel. I have had a few days off this week and have been dreading going into work, like you am depressed, anxious and highly sensitive and if i may i will share what a friend of mine told me yesterday? Basically i have made some “wrong” choices in life recently, especially in jobs. A friend of mine has done the same thing and he is now at peace with himself. He has is own business now and when i was telling him about how miserable i am in my job but too scared to leave he replied” the trouble is mate you take it too seriously, after all they proved when they made you redundant what they think about you so do your bit then go home” Easier said than done for people such as us but….. You owe your company nothing apart from turning up and doing your job to the best of your ability and as honestly as you can. I have learned this the hard way since i was “flushed away” by my company and it has been especially hard for me because some real wasters got away with keeping their jobs. I now am going to leave work where it belongs. At work. I know i am going to have hard times as well as good and if you are reflective like me which i am sure you are (?) this will be especially hard when we hit a bad spot. By all means look, i know i am now, and by all means tell them if you like but do not feel guilty. I put a lot into my role compared to others and lost my job, self-respect and what little confidence i had because of 3 words. Charge hand redundancy. I am slowly trying to re-build but i now wait for the next time it happens so treat your employer for exactly what they are. A way for you to make a living and do the things you want to do.
Hope this helps, please reply anytime if you are feeling low? I know how you feel mate and you are not on your own.
August 23, 2017 at 12:31 am #165220Elliot8ParticipantHello,
Thanks for your response, i have so many similarities with you it is quite uncanny. I give exactly the same advice as you have described to people who have similar struggles but can i take it myself? No, not in the slightest. My self esteem is non-existent. Like you i am confident in some ways, training and fitness for example, but i look in the mirror and still see the person i was that was bullied and hates himself. Every mistake i make and wrong decision sticks to me like some kind of emotional glue and i wish i could just not be me. You sound like you have done an amazing job of turning your life around and the fact that you have moved on from a divorce, which by the sounds of it you handled incredibly well, and found yourself someone who treasures you is something to be proud of. I have been to the doctors, some time back and i am not sure where you are posting from ( i would guess the States looking at the time differences?) but here in the UK mental health/depression is not very well “treated”. There is still a stigma to depression and one of the first things seeking medical help would do would be to invalidate my life/health cover and also it would be on my record which i don’t want. Heaven forbid if my family ever discovered i was on them. But i know there is something wrong with me, i am not sure if it is a product of my experiences or something in my genes but i do have a problem and have had so for most of my life.. As Fatima discusses in the post that got us talking letting go of negativity is hard. In terms of medication i was offered them but… I have never drank, smoked or taken a drug in my life. The thought of taking “pills” is at odds with my other side which does not want to rely on something that i may become addicted to.
August 22, 2017 at 2:59 pm #165188Elliot8ParticipantHey,
You are very perceptive. I hate the fact that i am “gifted” with both extreme sensitivity and i am massively reflective. I feel that sometimes i cannot take it, hence the fact that i want to be away from all of this. I will look him up and see what he thinks.
All the best to you Mia, i wish you every happiness and success.
E
August 22, 2017 at 8:49 am #165116Elliot8ParticipantHello Mia,
Thank you for your kind words. What you are saying is correct but it can be easier said than done sometimes. As you probably know the “chattering monkey” you alluded to can be very persuasive and when you make as many bad choices as i seem to have made then the chattering very quickly becomes a noise heard above all others. I have been listening to some self help videos the past day and have been exercising, which is something that always levels me up, but the future terrifies me, mostly due to the fact that i seem to choose the wrong way. I am terrified of losing my home and my kids, my wife and i are pretty much strangers thanks to the events of the past year at work, and i just do not want to keep going. I do wonder if i am meant to be “normal” and also if i am really cut out for all of this? It’s strange that something that is gone can still seem so fresh and something that has not yet happened can seem so awful?
August 21, 2017 at 6:57 am #164916Elliot8ParticipantDear Fatima,
I wish i could sit down with you and just chat with you about how we both feel. My childhood and teenager experience was one of self hatred and failures. A dad who was not approachable in any way and a mum who “doesn’t believe in depression “I was the stereo-typical classroom weakling, ugly, seven stone and 5 foot tall and the pain of PE classes and having to wear a vest still to this day make me shudder. I left school and bounced from job to job eventually finding one in a local factory where upon the opening ceremony of a new building i was thrown around by a group of men like a rag-doll in front of their laughing wives/partners. And was told that i would never lose my virginity, get a girlfriend. I stuck it for 10 years and during that time took up boxing and training to improve myself and a lot of the bullies left me be. At the age of 27 i left the factory for a new challenge. I re-trained to be a tree surgeon, which in hindsight was a huge mistake, and met the only girl who i felt ever looked at me let alone want to sleep with me and married her. I had a fairly settled period for a time but the negative thoughts and experiences have always been an anchor pulling me down and they never go. After a couple of career moves which were not good for me i then found myself in a job with people who i despised and were lazy/dishonest but i really tried and the pay was good, my wife does not work so……and guess what? I was made redundant and they kept their jobs! I then had the worst 3 months ever trying to find work which for a 44 year old tree surgeon is not easy (young mans game and i have injuries!) The company interviewed me as part of the redundancy process and they offered me a promotion. I was desperate to leave but felt that i had no choice but to stay there due to fact we had just remortaged and i had used up my savings to move to a bigger home for our children. I was thrown into this job with no real training and have been shouted at for not doing it right, even though my manager is worse than useless. I had one more job on the back burner which i was due to start Friday and guess what? This morning a friend came over to get some of my paperwork and informed me that in the re-structure i have kept the manager who has removed whet little hope, self respect and optimism i have. One hour after turning down the other job, which i knew i could but pays so much less that i have no choice but to stay where i am…… I can not tell you how many times i have googled best way to kill yourself, lost all hope etc. I hate myself to a point that even looking at my kids cannot shake me out of wanting to end my life. My whole life has been a struggle and long story short. Like you my friend i cannot find any reason for self love and respect. God forbid i drank, i don’t as i am tea-total, or did drugs because i would be dead. But i don’t want to be me….. So there you have it. I cannot stop the negativity, dark thoughts, and the thought of going on fills with me dread. I wish for fatal cancer or a car crash, both of whom would see my family ok due the life cover paying out, suicide would not. What you say resonates with me so much that i joined this site today (the first time i have ever done such a thing!) just to write this down and tell you that you are not alone in thinking how you do. I wish you the peace and the happiness that i can see by your story that you so richly deserve. For me i feel it is too late.
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