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EvaParticipantyeah. i wanna do that.
EvaParticipantI feel like shit. I’m so nervous, angry, frustrated and it’s not sadness, it’s exhaustion. I just gave up. I hate everything that’s happening to me, from my ex-long-term relationships that were shit, to losing a lot of my friends when I came out to say what I felt and fix the problems I thought we had, and when I set boundaries and was honest, I lost them, to how I’m always the black sheep at home and they don’t understand me, and I hate myself for suspecting that maybe the problem is all in me and that I’m playing the victim and I don’t know how to act differently. I don’t know where I’m going in life. I’m 28 years old, my family expects me to do something glamorous with my life, but I do it, everyone has expectations for me and I don’t know where to start. I don’t know what I want, I don’t know where I’m going, I don’t know how I imagine my life, I don’t know where to start, I don’t even know how to achieve what I want, everything seems unattainable to me.
EvaParticipantI’ve gotta say this that today I am very angry. The guy that we started texting with keeps being hot and cold, which gets me angry because if you’re interested, then go for it but if you’re not, don’t waste my time also, I am very angry at my ex for leaving me like that for being that type of asshole for being insensitive and blaming me for everything in his life and in our relationship and I was so late reacting to having me more efforts towards me and he doesn’t understand that and I don’t think he ever will, but he expected he needs to be fulfilled that his wishes and his expectations but not mine
EvaParticipantThis last situation with my ex finally made me truly realize something that I’ve known for a long time, but only now have I actually accepted it and let it sink in that it’s true.
Six years.
I could understand if it had been two months, or even six months, while he figured out how to tell his friend about me. But six years? It’s absurd to hide someone for six years. In that amount of time, people get married, have children, buy apartments, take out mortgages, build lives together. And I was still waiting for him to make our relationship official.
When you really think about it like that, it’s terrifying.
I’m so sad that it turned out this way because I lost such a big part of my twenties with him. I still can’t believe there were moments when I was standing right there and he introduced me as “just a friend,” or I’d sit quietly off to the side while they talked about weddings or girls as if I wasn’t even there. I always spoke up when something felt wrong, but in the end I was always the one who was blamed. I was “crazy.” It wasn’t like that. He wasn’t hiding me…
I still can’t believe that he managed to convince himself that was true.
I’m deeply sorry things happened this way. I genuinely believed I wanted us to work and that I could build a life with him. But if there’s one thing I remember, it’s that I always felt alone in that relationship.
Lonely. Sad. Frustrated. Jealous. Like I wasn’t enough. Desperate. Insecure.
I don’t know how I kept allowing that for so many years. That’s not what a partner is supposed to make you feel. That’s not what a relationship is supposed to be. That’s not what life is supposed to be.
Why would I keep suffering for someone who openly told me, over and over again, that we couldn’t be together, that we weren’t compatible? Someone who watched me cry and did nothing. Someone I begged three different times not to post pictures with his ex, yet he still did it because he was worried about what other people would think if they noticed the two of them weren’t on good terms anymore.
How miserable is that…
And no, I don’t think I’ll ever understand how he could look at me with so little regard that he allowed himself to treat me that way.
I think this subject has been analyzed and talked to death over all these years. The only thing that was ever missing was real action—something lasting that would actually change things. And in this case, there was only one possible action left:
The end.
Sadly.
Another thing I’ve been thinking about is my other ex—the friend of my most recent narcissistic ex—the one who was supposedly the reason we couldn’t have a public relationship.
I dream about him all the time. In my dreams I’m looking for him, trying to get back together, feeling like I miss him, like I need him. Then I wake up with that heavy feeling that makes me romanticize everything and return to those memories.
I feel like I had a much deeper emotional and romantic connection with him—the kind of connection I’ve always wanted from a partner—even though I know romanticizing the past is just my mind trying to comfort itself.
That relationship was incredibly difficult too. Back then he was emotionally cruel to me in many ways. He neglected me. We were simply much younger…
But there was also a side of him that was emotionally open, gentle, affectionate, and romantic with me.
Still, I constantly remind myself that we tried literally countless times, and it never worked. That wasn’t the right relationship either.
And yet… I still dream about him.
I think what I really miss is love itself. I miss tenderness, physical touch, having someone who’s there for you, who understands you, loves you, and takes care of you.
My brain keeps forgetting that he may not even be the same person anymore. Even if we got back together, nothing might be the way I imagine it. He could disappoint me all over again.
And then something completely unexpected happened that helped me finally put a seal on everything I’ve been struggling to let go of with my most recent ex.
There’s a man I’ve known of for years, but I’d never really noticed him or spent time with him. Over the past few months, though, we’ve gradually gotten to know each other.
I’ve developed a little crush on him.
Four days ago we met in his office at work and ended up talking for about forty minutes. There was some kind of spark. After that we started texting.
I’m being very careful, and honestly I’m scared.
First, because even though I know life doesn’t follow rules or perfect timing, I don’t know if I’m doing the right thing or if it’s too soon.
But at the same time, I don’t feel like I just walked out of a traditional breakup where everything suddenly ended overnight.
I’ve been alone for years.
I’ve spent years analyzing, grieving, processing, and working through this relationship. The only thing that was left was for the breakup itself to finally happen. Emotionally, most of it ended years ago.
All these years I’ve been alone anyway.
It’s almost as if I’d already been single.
I was hidden. I did activities by myself. We had separate friends. I went to birthdays, weddings, and events alone. I wasn’t really part of his life.
That’s why I don’t feel like the usual “rules” about moving on apply to me.
It doesn’t mean I’m going to marry this person tomorrow.
He simply brought me a little joy and hope. He reminded me that my fears about never finding a partner aren’t as dark and hopeless as I’d convinced myself they were.
He reminded me that I can actually feel free.
That I can exist without carrying such a heavy weight all the time.
My body has been living in a constant state of stress and survival for so long.
EvaParticipantI think I mostly need to find ways to handle when:
– I have a crisis to text him, really feels like an addict
– When I see him somewhere, my mind is wandering and creating random scenarios that he is with someone else.
– When I think about him and my anxiety rises because I am blaming myself if I didn’t do the last thing, we would still be together.
– Stop fantasising about his life, his future without me.
– When I miss his touch, affection (even though it was never that often and sincere)
EvaParticipantYeah! That would be lovely. Thank you for your input.
EvaParticipantThank you so much for your reply. I appreciate it. I don’t know if it’s because I was manipulated and abused emotionally so long and I have lost my sense of myself and because of all of the gaslighting all these years I just cannot imagine. How would I find another person and I’m very scared that I will get into the same pattern with someone else because I see that man today are weird and emotionally unavailable. I have no idea how I’m gonna find my true love my loved. It will be cherished and that I will deserve.
EvaParticipantHi.. hello… hi… again haha.
I honestly feel like I’m breaking inside trying to understand what was real and what wasn’t. We were still together up to this point.
Whenever I tried to explain that I felt hurt, disconnected, or insecure, the conversation almost always turned into a discussion of how I was “too much,” “jealous,” “dramatic,” or “creating problems.” Instead of leaving those conversations feeling understood, I usually left feeling like my emotions were the problem.
What makes this so confusing is that I don’t feel like my anxiety appeared out of nowhere. It grew over years of feeling emotionally neglected.
One of the biggest things was that our relationship was a secret for all six years.
He explained that one of our mutual friends is also my ex-boyfriend, and he wanted to be the one to tell him himself. He kept saying he was waiting for the “right time.”
I understood you wanted to handle that conversation yourself at the start. If this had lasted a few months, I probably wouldn’t have thought much of it.
But six years passed, and the “right time” never came.
We weren’t married. We didn’t have children. My previous relationship had been over for years and there was nothing left there. Yet somehow our relationship still couldn’t exist openly.
After six years, it stopped feeling like “I’m waiting for the right moment” and started feeling like I was being hidden.
Whether that was his intention or not, that’s how it felt to me. It made me question my place in his life and slowly damaged my sense of security.
As the years went on, there were so many smaller moments that kept reinforcing those feelings.
He would suddenly tell me he was already in another city or already out with friends after we’d been texting all day, instead of mentioning his plans beforehand. It happened enough that I stopped feeling like I was naturally included in his life.
Whenever I brought this up, I wasn’t asking him to ask permission to go anywhere. I just wanted to feel like his partner instead of someone who found out after everything had already been decided.
When we were together, he was often emotionally unavailable. Sometimes he’d spend our time on his phone, say he was tired, fall asleep, or simply not engage with me. If I said I felt distant from him, he’d often tell me he couldn’t deal with the conversation “right now.”
One moment that really broke me happened just before we ended things.
He invited me over to his apartment before football because he wanted to see me. I rushed there because I was excited to spend time together. But when I arrived, he lay down on another bed, barely talked to me, spent time on his phone, and kept saying he didn’t feel well.
I told him I felt so emotionally distant from him and that I really needed some reassurance—a hug, a kiss, even just hearing “I love you.” I wasn’t asking for a grand gesture. I just wanted to feel close to him.
Instead, nothing happened.
A while later, the first thing he asked me was whether I would go buy him a toast because he was hungry.
I said no.
Not because I didn’t care that he felt unwell, but because after years of putting my own emotional needs aside, I couldn’t ignore them one more time. I needed, for once, for my need to matter too.
The argument ended with him calling me selfish because I wouldn’t buy him food while he felt sick. From my perspective, I’d spent years feeling like every time I needed comfort, reassurance, affection, or emotional presence, there was always a reason why it couldn’t happen right now.
Whenever I cried, he rarely comforted me. More often, he became frustrated, withdrew, or told me we were simply incompatible.
From his perspective, I’m exhausting. I’m too emotional. I create conflict. I don’t appreciate what he does. He says a relationship should bring peace, and that I’m the reason it doesn’t.
From my perspective, I spent years fighting for what felt like basic emotional connection: communication, reassurance, affection, and feeling chosen.
Now I’m left wondering if I really was impossible to love, or if I slowly became anxious because I spent years feeling emotionally unsafe.
I know I wasn’t perfect. I know I became reactive, emotional, and sometimes suspicious.
But I genuinely believe those reactions came after years of feeling hidden, emotionally dismissed, and constantly having my needs postponed.
Now it’s over, because he cannot put up with my bullshit and nagging. He also said that a relationship should make your life better and healthier, and that’s true, but he never did those things with me; what a hypocrite.
And I’m grieving not only the relationship, but also questioning my own reality.
Was I actually asking for too much? I am still spiraling, and affecting me so much mentally to imagine him with someone else. I can’t let go because I imagine he would be perfect for someone else. It makes me sick. I also can’t function when we are not together. It feels like I am an addict. I can’t seem to understand the “future and his girlfriend” problem and how to solve it. It affects me A LOT.
I’d really appreciate honest outside perspectives because right now I don’t trust my own judgment anymore.
EvaParticipantI think I have these attachment issues and abandonment issues from him… Leaving for days or not speaking when he is angry or has a fight with us. I can still feel that pain; it’s so frustrating to me right now because he still does it once a month, and now I just can’t handle it. It’s childish and so immature. Me and my sister definitely see the patterns in him, but my sister had a very different approach to relationships, she is such a strong woman, and his bf is just like a puppy, always running for her. She has her opinions, and doesn’t care for anything else.
EvaParticipantI can definitely say that even though my parents are still together, we had some rough moments 7-8 years ago. They always wanted what was best for us, and we always had everything, because thankfully, we have money, enough to have everything but not enough to be spoiled that much. We were never greedy or spoiled like rich kids. We never wore or have the need to wear brands or have something like that. But my relationship with my father was always difficult. He is a man that wants everything under his control, if I do/act/say something opposite of his opinion, there was always that dissmisive, angry approach and being mad for days not talking to anyone at home. We always had to get good grades, there was scolding, yelling if they were weaker than a 4. With us, the maximum best grade is a 5. We were also punished very often, if we did something that was not a rule. He knew how to hit us, yell, and I was not allowed to bite, I had a curfew until 12 o’clock until I was 18. He was very strict with us, and it’s okay to some extent because I grew up to be what I am today, with very good habits, I’m not spoiled and I’m not a lazy person. I always tried hard, I studied, I got a lot of awards and successes. But now all of that is taking a bit of a toll because my perfectionist in me is starting to get disappointed with the life I have right now. I feel like I haven’t achieved anything and like I’m nowhere right now, and I’m 27 years old. Now my father is starting to nag about getting married, grandchildren, and the like… I feel that pressure again, according to his expectations. The relationship he has as a husband with my mother was also not the best. He doesn’t accept criticism, he gets angry if he is criticized or given advice, he goes to work and sits there for days angry, he doesn’t talk to anyone. We also had a moment 10 years ago, very dramatic, where they fought a lot with shouting, pushing, that he was going to leave, even that he was going to kill himself and I don’t know what. From that moment on, I think my attitude towards him changed a lot and I can’t stand him. Whenever he tries to hug me, and he knows how to drool when he’s in the mood, it’s uncomfortable for me and I just want to get away. I run away from his closeness now, because I find him very repulsive. No matter how hard I try, I can’t fix it. Sometimes it’s hard for me, that I’m like that, but it comes to me unconsciously and I don’t even know how to fix it. My mother is the person I can trust the most, but she also always ran after my father, she heard, and she always had a very strange approach with us, we couldn’t be completely open, she never talked to us about sex, illnesses, boyfriends, relationships, as if it were taboo and shameful. She always has a certain amount of distrust towards us even though we never did anything stupid with my sister. I can say that I have never had such a close, beautiful relationship with my parents as some have. I can’t sit down and talk to them for even 15 minutes, everything they do annoys me, the sounds they make, the way they communicate. And I run away, I just sit in my room.
I’m sorry it’s like this, but I don’t know how I can fix it… Maybe I’m one of those people who functions better if they’re away from their homes… But at the moment I live with them, and I don’t know what step to take to get my life going. I feel very stuck at the moment, everything is gray and confusing, I have no idea what step can move me forward.
EvaParticipantI have to type here because I have the urge to text him. After all, he I need to express my feelings here because I’m feeling the urge to text him. He has been ignoring me for 48 hours. Previously, he would send me messages—usually something about himself, a picture, or a reel—something unimportant and cold. He never communicated deeply or asked about me. I tried to address his coldness and distance, but his response was always the same: “I’ve been very busy these past weeks. I don’t understand why you don’t get that.”
We broke up mainly because of this, yet he still messages me occasionally. Now, he has been absent for two days, and my anxiety is through the roof, making me want to reach out to him.has been ignoring me for 48 hours. He used to text me a message or tho, generally something about him, or a picture, or a reel, something unimportant and cold, and never communicated deeply or asked something about me. Tried communicating why he is so cold and distant and changed so much towards me, and always got the same frustrated answer: I am very busy these past weeks, I do not know how you do not understand that. We broke up mainly because of that and you are still doing that even if we are not together now. But keeps leaving me a message or two from time to time. Now he is absent 2 days and my anxiety is again through the roof wanting to message him.
Again, the same old intrusive thoughts….And I really do not know how will I let go. I am having these fears that I will never find my person or partner that will make me happy. I only know this toxic love and nothing more… I have been going to 2 therapists: one is Gestalt type and one is CBT. I have been going to Gestalt for years now, but I can’t seem to release my panic. I have all these fears, of him moving on, of me being alone, not finding the right partner, being childless, not married…. I am panicking so hard right now and fighting the urge to text him.
EvaParticipantThis makes a lot of sense! Do you have any practical advices how to move forward and work on this?
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Now I am having crisis to reach out, to text him something, and I can’t hold it. I am such a chaos.
EvaParticipantThank you for all your kind words. I know that I may repeat myself, and it’s getting annoying, but there is something that is constantly making me sick, and those are the intrusive thoughts that I know have no meaning, don’t change anything for me, but keep coming into my mind and stopping me from functioning in daily life.
Thoughts like:
1. Where is he right now?
2. Is he with someone new?
3. Is he thinking of me?
4. What if he is so happy that he is single and he is living his life out there?
5. How will I cope when I see him somewhere?
6. What if he is back with his ex?
7. How can he move on so quickly?
8. What if I don’t find someone else?
9. What if I always fall into the trap of people like this?When these thoughts come up in my mind, my stomach feels awful, I am getting sick, and I cannot even eat, breathe, sleep, drink, or anything.
Update from what happened after I wrote the first post: We talked and somehow made up…The energy was very calm, and even though we didn’t talk about how to practically solve everything, we somehow continued… Those 2 weeks, he “tried” being a good boyfriends, trying to fix things that had been bothering me, like:
-asking me how I am
-What am I doing? How am I doing
—> things that I think are nothing to TRY to fix, those are something that should be normal and flowing in a relationship. Even though he tried doing these things, he just asked, so they are asked, and I still felt like he didn’t do it because he wanted to.
Also, invited me to a standup comedy concert and let me invite some of my friends who have never met. They came, but the tension I felt with him:
– going behind us, like he doesn’t want to be seen with us
– sitting and constantly looking to see if there is someone we know nearby
– not being very talkative or trying to get to know them more
And then… after these days, on Thursday (07th August), we arranged to see each other because that weekend I was going on a trip. He was busy the whole day, and he went to a football training, and he would have come in front of my home at 10:30 PM. It was not necessary, but with everything going on, and knowing that we do not have quality time AT ALL, and I am always the last to see him, even for 30 minutes, I felt frustrated and triggered again. I don’t know why, but when he finished training, he asked me if I should come home now? And I wrote to him anyway. I don’t know why I wrote that, I just felt that way at the time because I felt so neglected, always left at the end, when he was too tired from the day and only had a little time with me. And naturally, he got angry at that, and said I was going home. My way of dealing with these problems is that I write and talk a lot, and I started writing to him that he never has time for me, that he doesn’t know how to set aside time just for me, and he spends time with everyone else all day, and naturally it came to that point, where we talked on the phone and he told me that he couldn’t do it anymore and had no desire to continue this relationship at all. He also told me that for the past 3-4 days he had really tried to fix some of the things I had asked for and that I didn’t know how to wait even 1 week for something to start getting fixed. I have to argue. He said that he would have used his psychic energy for something else. Also, something that really hurt me was the following sentence: I EVEN DID IT, AND I ALLOWED YOU TO CALL YOUR FRIENDS TO CALL US TO THE STAND-UP EVENT, AND YOU’RE ARGUING AGAIN? I don’t understand, what kind of deviation, that should be a normal thing in a 5-year relationship! And in the end he told me that if I had been understanding, patient, there would have been no one like me, I would have been perfect. But I think I’m just patient and understanding. Because someone who isn’t patient won’t put up with this, always on their terms, views, rules, and if I hadn’t been understanding, I wouldn’t have WAITED 5 years for him to be ready! This whole argument made me feel guilty that I had ruined it again and that maybe if I hadn’t done this on Friday, we wouldn’t have ended and he would have tried to fix the relationship. Since then, he hasn’t asked me out at all, so it’s a complete end.
EvaParticipantI feel very stuck on continuing. Irrational thoughts are going through my mind that affect me psychosomatically. I have chest pain and stomach pain. I don’t know how to calm down, accept that it’s over, and move on. I know that no matter how much I loved him, that doesn’t change anything. We weren’t for each other. And that hurts too much.
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