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HelcatParticipant
Hi Anita
I truly appreciate your valuable insights, kindness and empathy! ❤️ I could not agree with you more about all of this.
It was really helpful to me to be reminded that it is not because of me that he is having difficulty sometimes. I think that it could help me to be more understanding of his neurodivergence.
I was only recently made aware of some of the significant gaps in his understanding based on his neurodivergence. I spoke to some of his friends and they told me about what high school and college were like for him. About how he didn’t understand women. He is handsome, outgoing, intelligent and kind. He had quite the following but he had no interest in that type of thing at the time.
I had never really considered the communication difficulties that both of our neurodivergence causes before. Language is often complicated because of multiple definitions of words and the personal interpretations. We both often try and understand things intellectually. I do a lot of studying different things to try and make up for the understanding that I lack naturally.
I remember when I was a teenager I didn’t understand people very well either. I often wished that I could read minds. It was very alien to me how people behaved.
I think that he tries to have empathy but doesn’t understand how I feel. He guesses how I feel and is often incorrect. About this situation he assumed that I felt fear. But actually I felt anger at the disrespect. I trust that he has no intentions towards her. I was not afraid of that. I think that when things are difficult between us it really matters to me that I am treat with respect.
Another thing that was helpful to me is your insight about him liking to feel good about himself and appreciated. I think because of the difficulties we have been having he is extra hard on himself. I think that he is so hard on himself that it is painful for him and it is easier for him to blame me for his actions.
He does also find my PTSD to be triggering for him. I shut down a lot during disagreements and he has trauma with stonewalling in previous relationships. He confuses a short break to calm down with being ignored for long periods of time.
I am also protective of the effect on the baby and walk away if it gets heated. This upsets him too.
I suspect that there are some feelings tied up with the baby in disagreements for him. It is hard because he has difficulty articulating his feelings sometimes.
I know that he wants us to be a happy family and to communicate well, just like I do. I think that he feels bad for the mistakes he makes.
Since we are already working on rebuilding intimacy, I will work on showing extra appreciation and praising him for the things that he does well.
During disagreements, because of my PTSD when I shut down and get defensive I am not that positive. He has communicated before that he wants me to acknowledge the things that he does well. It is something that I am working on, it is just hard being vulnerable during a disagreement. I cope by numbing my feelings a lot.
Thanks again for everything! 😊
Love and best wishes! ❤️🙏
HelcatParticipantHi CutieJ
It sounds like the lying has become a massive trigger for you after everything that has happened. It’s true that you have been through so much both in your home life and in the relationship. I’m sorry to hear that she lied to you again.
Considering your reaction to the lie. I’m surprised that she told you about it. Some people lie when they are afraid of others. It sounds like she is afraid of the way you react. This is something to work on in therapy because it sounds like some abusive behaviours got normalized for you at home. This means that you learned them and don’t see how damaging you are. It wasn’t your fault that you were brought up in an abusive home, but as an adult you have a responsibility to undo the damage that was caused to yourself by your parents. This will help you to have healthy relationships in the future.
Lying is not okay. Checking someones location is not okay. Throwing things is not okay. Breaking things is not okay. Throwing things away is not okay. Stopping someone is not okay. Punching things is not okay. Trying to force someone to talk is not okay. Shaking someone is not okay. Threatening your partner with scissors is not okay. No one should be afraid for their safety in a relationship.
Locking herself in a cupboard and shutting down are trauma responses. She was afraid for her safety. I can tell that you regret it. But you need to understand the gravity of the situation because you currently don’t fully understand it. It is good that you are doing your best to be honest with yourself about your mistakes. This means that you can learn to control them.
If you are angry to the point of these things you should have left the relationship a long time ago. It is the healthy thing to do. You need to learn to protect yourself in a healthy way and leave these harmful relationships behind when you come across them. You deserve to be treat with respect and honoured and valued.
She is right, these things aren’t love. Love means treating each other with respect. Things like this are part of why she is breaking up with you.
It good to hear that you both managed to put the bad argument behind you and try to have a nice time. I think that going to her friends the day before you leave whilst it doesn’t feel good, it’s a good idea. You are breaking up. You both need a bit of space to process that before it finally happens. Try to honour her request even though it is hard.
Love and best wishes! ❤️🙏
HelcatParticipantHi Anita
It is difficult to say about her character because she has been acting out of character recently. For many years she has endured a difficult marriage. She has been considering an affair for a long time, but I think the execution was poor. So it is a mix of impulsive and not impulsive. I don’t think she is thinking clearly and is having some kind of breakdown. That is unpredictable. I think that she also idolizes my husband a bit. He has helped her out a lot over the years. I don’t trust her that much because of the way she has been acting and I don’t know her very well. Obviously her morals and judgment are in question at the moment.
I do think that you are right about the drama though. It seemed to me that she wanted to gossip more than was afraid of a pregnancy. She was also shocked by her own behaviour.
Yes, I think he was unmoved by the details. But I still find it disrespectful.
You are spot on. It hurts that he doesn’t understand, even when I explain my feelings to him. It makes me feel dismissed and invalidated. Thank you for your kindness and empathy! I hope that things change too.
Some additional context is that my husband is neurodivergent too. I think that this effects both of our communication. I don’t remember if I mentioned it before.
Love and best wishes! ❤️🙏
HelcatParticipantHi Anita
I’m glad to hear that you are feeling supported and understand that I wasn’t trying to minimize your feelings. I would love to hear an update about the dental situation if you feel like sharing when you have more news. I hope that your tongue feels better soon!
The situation is essentially. His friend has had difficulties in her marriage for our entire relationship and when we are having difficulties that is when she decides to blow up her marriage. She started cheating on her husband without taking any birth control and was talking to my husband very explicitly about the details of her affair. She was claiming to be afraid of having a baby but refused to take the morning after pill.
We visited her recently after having the baby and she was rude and ignored me and made a comment fantasizing that our son was her’s and my husband’s. My husband thought it was a joke. I didn’t think that it was funny.
I am not surprised that this has happened. I warned my husband about it and he didn’t listen.
I notice the way that she looks at him now. She was sulking while he was talking to her husband and only smiled and brightened up when my husband paid her attention.
She is having a mental breakdown and he is only concerned with supporting her.
Previous exes have said that she had feelings for him and I ignored it for a long time because things were good in our relationship.
Now I feel like she is taking advantage and overstepping and he is letting her.
After all of this happened and he didn’t shut her down talking graphically about her affair because he didn’t think it was a big deal, I asked him to set boundaries with her about that. He didn’t understand why even after explaining and dismissed my feelings but agreed to because I was hurt. I then spoke to her and asked her politely to not talk to my husband about her sex life. She apologised. My husband is angry that I spoke to her.
Love and best wishes! ❤️🙏
HelcatParticipantHi Prudence
It might interest you to know that in person I have only been approached by two guys that I haven’t been friends with. I rejected both of them one because of shyness and one because of an age difference.
A lot of people use the internet to date these days. Infact, it is primarily the method used nowadays. So I don’t think it’s anything to be ashamed of.
It is good to hear that you did have some success dating online! Congratulations on having your first kiss. 😊
In person everyone I have dated I have either met at parties and become friends with or simply just been friends with.
Online I have met 3 partners not through dating apps.
I think the difficulty of being friends with someone is there might be a limited pool locally. Whereas online there is a much larger variety of people.
I think that a lot of people flirt privately, not in front of other people. That is mostly what I did. You are not really getting a picture of what people do privately.
I’m sorry to hear about your difficulties with shyness. I think that primarily shyness is likely to be the cause of the difficulties dating.
I have known people who aren’t classically beautiful by a long shot have a lot of success dating because they are very outgoing.
A crass way to put it is how do you think unattractive people are born? They have unattractive parents that um you know…
Love and best wishes! ❤️🙏
HelcatParticipantHi John
I believe what is distinct is a soul. I don’t know what you believe? We are made up of our experiences. We are ultimately egotistic animals. We are here as a species to breed and to help each other. What is unique are the different ways we can help each other and the lives we touch. Every job in the world is a form of helping.
What do you think?
Love and best wishes! ❤️🙏
HelcatParticipantHi Anita
Thank you for your kind wishes!
Yes, definitely advocate for yourself and have a talk with them about the cloth and the sore tongue. Perhaps you could call and discuss it before the appointment? Would that be reassuring?
I do agree about it being torture. I‘m sorry if it seemed like I was trying to minimize your experience before. I was just trying to be calm about the situation and not add to it. If that makes sense? Truthfully, I think you were very brave tolerating it for as long as you did. I would have panicked immediately.
Three appointments sounds daunting when there have been issues with the initial appointment. I can understand the apprehension.
I’m rooting for you whatever happens!
Things are not going so well for me today on the relationship front. A female friend of my husband was behaving inappropriately with him and he is not being understanding of my feelings about the situation.
Love and best wishes! 🙏❤️
HelcatParticipantHi Anita
Thank you for your kind words!
It is the worst when there are problems with your mouth and eating, drinking and talking is painful. I hope that your tongue heals quickly for you.
That honestly sounds pretty scary. I’ve never had cloth in my mouth at the dentist before. I wouldn’t like it either.
Well done on coming up with a good plan to help you manage the next appointment. I think that you are very courageous for doing this. It is okay to be scared and even appropriate. I would be scared too.
To paraphrase Nelson Mandela “Courage is not the absence of fear, but the triumph over it.”.
I really do hope that your next appointment is much better and hopefully it is the last one?
Love and best wishes! ❤️🙏
HelcatParticipantHi Anita
I’m sorry to hear about your challenging dentist visit and that they hurt your tongue. I think that it makes sense to be scared of something like that.
I’m not usually afraid of the dentist, but I had to get some teeth removed and I had a dentist whose hands were shaking. I walked out and scheduled the procedure with a different dentist.
These things are painful, stressful and it is important for them to be done correctly. Having a long appointment on top of all that is a lot. I wonder if you could bring music or something to distract you for your next appointment? Or were you doing something like that already?
I hope that the next one goes more smoothly!
It is so kind of you to write to people when you have a busy life. ❤️
Thank you for your kind wishes! Agreed, calm is so much better than the alternative.
Today, I found a lost dog and returned it to it’s owner. It made me think of my missing cat. A hopeful part of me thinks that it is good karma. Perhaps she will return? I don’t know. Wishful thinking maybe. I can dream. 😊
Love and best wishes! ❤️🙏
HelcatParticipantHi Anita
Thank you for your kind words!
I’m glad to hear that you are sleeping better these days. How are you doing otherwise?
It has been calm on the relationship front. That has been nice. Next week, I will have to take the dog back for some blood tests. I hope that his results continue to improve.
Love and best wishes! ❤️🙏
HelcatParticipantHi Prudence
I don’t agree that going on dates is necessarily common these days. Going on dates is more for people who are actively boyfriend and girlfriend.
Dating culture these days is centred around hooking up without being officially boyfriend and girlfriend. It is actually harder to find someone who does want to date officially.
Being approached is more likely to happen in specific situations. Namely, parties. Do you go to many parties? Approaches there will be people trying to hook up. Otherwise, it generally takes a while for people to express an interest. Do you have many single male friends? Even being friends with someone doesn’t guarantee that they will want to date officially even if they do take an interest. Many still only want to hook up. When I say that dating is difficult these days. I mean it. It took a long time for me to find someone who actually wanted to officially date instead of just hooking up.
I’ve never used a dating app, it’s not my cup of tea having sex with strangers.
It is rude to stare while people are looking. People are naturally going to avoid being caught doing that.
I’m sorry to hear that dating has been hard for you in real life as well as online.
Love and best wishes! ❤️🙏
HelcatParticipantHi CutieJ
You are being gaslit. Asking for her to post about your relationship on social media and go to therapy are reasonable requests.
She cannot go her whole life never acknowledging her partners because an ex threatened to kill herself. Another concern is if she goes back to her home country she may try and reconnect with that ex. A lot of people do this. Break up when they leave their home country and then continue dating when they return. This is because long distance relationships often fail. The chances of a long distance relationship working out is astronomical. She knows this, this is why she left her previous partner.
Your concerns are valid, she is dismissing them and trying to make you feel like you are the problem.
The yelling itself is not so good. I hope that you don’t yell often during disagreements? It is a tricky habit to break, one that was learned in childhood. But not impossible.
You deserve so much better. You deserve someone who acknowledges you as a partner. Who doesn’t dismiss your concerns and reasonable requests. Who doesn’t gaslight and lie to you.
She has ignored your pain that she caused for your entire relationship.
It is good to hear that the relationship had some positives. She helped you learn to take care of yourself.
I’m sorry to hear about the trauma with your father. That is awful. He shouldn’t have behaved like that, you deserved a stable and loving father.
I’m sorry to hear that you were alone during high school. No one deserves that. It must have been terrible for you having a difficult home life and a difficult school life. I’m sorry to hear about your bulemia.
I would suggest working on making friends when you go back home. You did it in college and you can do it again.
I’m going to let you in on a secret. Everyone has stretch marks!
Please be gentle with yourself and take extra care of yourself during this difficult time.
Love and best wishes! ❤️🙏
HelcatParticipantHi CutieJ
I’m sorry to hear about the difficulties in the relationship and about the impending breakup.
It sounds like to me, that the breakup has been coming for a while. Once you both went long distance, it was only a matter of time. She has a history of ending relationships when distance is involved.
It sounds like she has been trying to handle this breakup “better” than the last one. It sounds like she has a lot of guilt around the previous breakup and doesn’t want her ex to hurt herself. She is trying to avoid making the same mistakes again. Instead she is making different mistakes.
You have made some mistakes too. It is expected. It is your first relationship.
I think that as soon as the relationship was planned to go long distance, it was essentially over for her. The rest of this has been a breakup this whole time. She doesn’t know how to break up in a healthy way yet.
I’m sorry that her difficulties with break ups caused such difficulties in your relationship. And I’m sorry that this current break up has been a messy and drawn out process. A healthy break up would be a simple conversation when planning to move.
I’m sorry that she is blaming you for her difficulties with breaking up. Clearly it is not your fault. She had difficulties with breaking up before she even met you. Difficulties so bad, they damaged your relationship.
I’m sorry to hear that you have difficulties with self hatred and self esteem. Therapy is a good place to work on those difficulties. If that is available. Do you want to talk about what caused those difficulties?
Please be kind to yourself through this grieving process. It will not last forever. It will hurt for a while, but then it will get easier and eventually pass in time.
It is up to you if you want to go to the meeting with her in person. You don’t have to if you don’t want to. This break up has been a mess. You don’t have to keep going with her ideas of what a break up is when she doesn’t even know herself. Honour your own needs. If you don’t want to go, don’t go. Just have a phone call. If you do want to go. Go, but on your terms. Decide what you want to do because she doesn’t know how to handle this in a healthy way. There is no rush, take all the time you need to decide.
Love and best wishes! ❤️🙏
HelcatParticipantHi Anita
I’m glad that healing our relationship is making you feel better and hopeful (it makes me happy too). It’s great to hear that you managed to get some sleep. Long may it all continue! ❤️😊
Very true, I think it is difficult for him. He’s very hard on himself and communication is hard especially when things get emotional. I don’t judge him for it.
As I learn more about couples counselling there are so many behaviours that are not so much abusive as, they cause some difficulties with communication. It’s all a bit mind boggling. A lot to integrate and work on.
Thank you for saying that I’m a good mother, I’m trying my best! I think you’re a good person who tries very hard to help people every single day. It is a privilege to know you. ❤️
Love and best wishes! ❤️🙏
HelcatParticipantHi Anita
Thank you for seeing me. ❤️ You make a lot of effort to always be there for people and treat them with kindness and respect. I have a lot to learn from you. 😊
You didn’t have to be there for me, but you chose to anyway. I appreciate that more than you can imagine.
I don’t like talking about people behind their back. Anything I share about him, I share with him. He is a good person, but there have been relationship difficulties since the baby. I think that sleep deprivation makes things worse. It is always around times where the baby is not sleeping and consequently we are not sleeping that things are worse.
You are right about feeling safe being important. I’m glad that since the pregnancy and the baby he has been more open with his feelings. He was very stoic for a large part of our relationship. There is a downside in that I don’t feel like he knows the best way to handle this because sharing is fairly new to him. I used to think that I was the sensitive one and that he wasn’t sensitive. But now I see that we both are and he used to hide or ignore his feelings.
I think that individual therapy is a good place for him to practice these skills. He seems to be picking things up quickly.
I really want communication to improve for the baby as well. Because we don’t have anyone to help us with childcare he is around when we are having disagreements. What an adult can cope with a child cannot and he understands more every day.
The couples counsellor is doing a good job of helping us to come up with strategies to manage this like talking when the baby is asleep.
Love and best wishes! ❤️🙏
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