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HelcatParticipant
Hi Anita
I honestly found your words very helpful and I believe that it is very important for me to remember them. I’m glad that you are happy that your valuable insights were recognized and feel comfortable with me posting them on this thread. I’m glad that you appreciated what I wrote too. ❤️
Love and best wishes, always! ❤️🙏
HelcatParticipantHi Jana
Regarding worrying about feeling attacked. I think that a way to deal with this is to build up your confidence in coping with these situations and acknowledging that the past was difficult, and it is stressful to deal with these things even as an adult. But! You are an adult and you are very capable of handling difficult situations.
You handled the difficulties with your neighbour well. You deal with criticism from others well. Whilst it does hurt. You are a very capable person. Even as a child, you stood up to bullies and protected others.
My thoughts are that there are bad people in the world, but there are far more average person in the world and there are also good people in the world. The key is being able to tell the difference. The way that people behave with others is a predictor for how they will treat you. People often have patterns. If you listen and watch, you can learn who you should avoid or if forced to interact with them, be very careful around.
I think that if we are careful as adults, very few seriously bad things happen and the bad things that do happen if you take care of yourself well are often unpreventable and unpredictable. I like to compare my fears with outcomes because I have a tendency to catastrophise. I find that it helps to reassure myself that my worst fears are unlikely to come true and that a more tolerable outcome is likely because I am capable and skilled enough to handle emergencies.
Love, peace and best wishes! ❤️🙏
HelcatParticipantIt occurred to me the other day. That what when difficulties occur, the problem is not necessarily the issue itself, but how we react to it.
For example, when two people have a disagreement about something. It is how they choose to treat each other that is important. Not the disagreement itself.
The willingness for people to work together as a team is the only way to truly win. Being right, “winning the argument”, getting what you want is not important. It is treating each other with kindness and respect that is important.
HelcatParticipantIt’s been a wild day. Got a new dog. She immediately ran away on the first day after slipping out of her collar (she was not leash trained). Fortunately, a kind stranger found her and took her to the vet and we got her back. She’s getting on really well with our other dog and the baby, so that is good news.
HelcatParticipantWhen the heart wilts, when it starts to die- while officially alive- that’s when anger turns to rage, sadness to depression, gentleness to harshness, valid needs.. to violence.
There is nothing more important than bringing life back to our hearts and to the hearts of others. Life to the heart means the experience of belonging to the center-stage of humanity: the experience of being as important, as valuable as any other human. The experience of Togetherness with others. The experience of being liked, genuinely liked and trusted. There is no better experience and no other hope for a better world.
This quote is from Anita. I thought it was a really valuable insight and beautifully written. I hope that it is okay for me to share it?
Love and best wishes, always! (on my pc, so no emojis)
HelcatParticipantI reached out to her when I was pregnant because she has a fear of not seeing her grandkids. I said that she could see him as much as she wanted and she didn’t bother very much. It has been 9 months since she last bothered to see him. She kept cancelling and stopped replying to messages.
Being pregnant sucked. It hurt a lot. It was like carrying around a bowling ball that you never get to put down. On the plus side, no morning sickness. But it didn’t get on well with my health issues. I kept falling and getting faint and had cramps. And I could barely breathe when he got so big he was crushing my lungs. I couldn’t even walk in the end. It was horrible going through all of this without medication. I survived on herbal teas to help me through the flare ups.
I was so scared to have a baby. I had a phobia of having a baby for my whole life because of my trauma. I was terrified that I would be a bad mother and that it would change me like my mother said it changed her. Fortunately, it didn’t. I mean, yes my mental health deteriorated. And I suffered. But I managed to stay myself.
And my life fell apart. We were evicted while I was pregnant. And we had a visa and we had to move house quickly. Then my cat died. The more the pregnancy went on, the more stressed I got. And then of course there is the sheer panic of planning giving birth as someone who has experienced sexual abuse. I was terrified of being retraumatised. The last thing anyone wants giving birth is to go through a massive PTSD episode. Fortunately, the planning went very well.
I wasn’t prepared for how much work a baby was either in the beginning. It was nuts. They say it takes a village… a village would have been very helpful. Even just one person would have been a blessing.
I can’t even think about all of the loss with the pets. I’ve always had pets. For my whole life. I’ve always had something. I’ve had quite the menagerie. Cats, dogs, rats, gerbils, hamsters, fish, snails, insects and a horse. Not all at the same time of course. The idea of losing my last pet and being alone is terrifying. They are family to me. When people cannot be relied upon, the love of an animal is always there.
I’m starting to forget what my lost cat looks like….
HelcatParticipantMy husband suggested processing some of the things that have happened in recent years.
I focused a lot on the relationship and the difficulties of being a first time parent. But very little outside of that.
It is hard to think about to be honest. We’ve been through a lot. I was at a job where I was being abused and it had a really bad impact on my mental health. It was a trigger for me to be there and I forced my way through it for years. Just to prove to myself that I could cope anywhere.
I got disowned by my adopted mother on and off. And during the pandemic she and the rest of the family used that as an excuse to cut contact. At the same time, she wanted to pretend that she wasn’t doing that. She talked badly about my husband and blamed him. I stood up for him telling her that to have a relationship with me, she would have to accept him. Our relationship never really recovered after that. More drama ensued and I just decided you know what if she wants to be like that, I’m going to stop trying and let things die.
HelcatParticipantHi Jana
I haven’t come across that quote before, thank you for sharing it! It reminds me of a story about a monk who was imprisoned and tortured. He forgave even the people who committed the vilest torture.
I do believe that compassion and understanding are key to these things. I’m keen to hear your thoughts too.
Love, peace and best wishes! ❤️🙏
December 17, 2024 at 1:47 pm in reply to: Kicked out of the house and cut off from all my family in college – now what? #440813HelcatParticipantHi Lulu
I’m so sorry that you’re going through this right now. You don’t need this stress after your sister dying. No one should be fighting right now.
It’s not fair on you that this is the way your Mother is choosing to grieve. You are suffering already with the loss of your sister. You don’t need anything extra on top of that.
I will say that it can be really hard on parents losing a child. Some people give up and lose it. I hope that she regains some sense and decides not to blow up the family.
I’m really sorry that you’re going through this at Christmas too. That is extra awful. I’m glad that your boyfriend is being supportive. If your family don’t get their act together, it sounds like he may be trying to invite you to Christmas with his family. If he does and things aren’t better you should definitely go. No one should be alone at Christmas!
Love and best wishes!❤️🙏
HelcatParticipantHi Jana
You are spot on! Thank you for sharing your own fascinating cultural communication experience and insight about cultural differences. I totally agree. Even the US and the UK are very different cultures and we speak the same language. It’s kind of an issue between my husband and myself, as well as myself and his family.
The UK is kind of like Canada in which we apologize for everything. And I mean everything! Even minor inconveniences. It is considered extremely rude in my culture not to apologize. It’s basically an insult.
Whereas the US doesn’t have as strong an emphasis on apologising. There is a strong belief in being fake nice and faking a positive attitude in the US, especially where my husband is from because they shoot and kill each other over minor disputes. It’s actually against how people from the UK operate. Whilst we do apologize, we don’t fake being positive. We show our emotions albeit in a reserved way and I would say are more negative in attitude than Americans. We are very strictly anti-violence in the UK, so feel perfectly safe in doing so.
In the UK, grandparents still operate on the honour based system. Kind of like Downton Abbey but less posh. I would say that I’m more traditional than most younger people and I get on very well with the elderly population here.
The younger generation tends to be freer with how they choose to communicate and in my opinion are quite troublesome. The say one thing and do another. Whereas older people are more direct and honest in their interactions.
I think that you are excellent at writing to others by the way. 😊
Love, peace and best wishes! ❤️🙏
HelcatParticipantHi John
Haha I like your sense of humour. I think she passed some of her mental fortitude onto you. 😊
I’m glad that some of the things she taught you were quite useful. It’s a shame that there were other things that weren’t true any longer.
It is refreshing to meet a man that is open minded and has such positive views about women. It will be interesting to see what happens in the future.
I do think that women have a handicap in most countries though. They are expected to do the child rearing. It is hard to overcome things so deeply entrenched in society without that changing. We can dream to be treat as equals one day.
Love, peace and blessings! ❤️🙏
HelcatParticipantHi Jana
Wow you were so brave to stand up to that group and defend the other person that they were also threatening. You truly did your best despite being afraid of being hurt yourself. I’m glad that they didn’t hurt you and I hope that other person got away.
You are incredible! Although it is a terrible memory to have. I’m sorry that happened to you.
Love, peace and best wishes! ❤️🙏
HelcatParticipantHi CKS
I’m sorry to hear that some kids were annoying you on the bus today.
How do you think this person will respond to your message? What is your desired outcome?
Love and best wishes! ❤️🙏
HelcatParticipantHi Jana
I agree, that tends to be my pattern. I’m still reading it, so there is a lot I haven’t learned yet.
But essentially, it says a scared person will look for things to be afraid of, an angry person will look for things to be angry at etc. It suggests that repressed and suppressed emotions build up to a point that they are released.
This made me think. What makes someone an angry or any kind of person etc? I have a couple of thoughts about this. I’m neurodivergent and for me that comes with difficulties with emotional regulation. So in one part, that. On another part, the past. And there is also, the present. I feel like the past makes things much more painful than they should be for me.
Love, peace and best wishes! 🙏❤️
HelcatParticipantHi John
I’m glad to hear that you’re fine and sorry to hear that you regret your previous message. I can understand why you do because you care deeply about not causing others to feel pain. I don’t believe that you had any ill intent.
I think that it might be hard for some people to practice stepping back from emotions regardless of intent, depending on their emotional regulation skills. I know that in the past, I would not have been able to do it because those skills would not be strong enough. I would potentially have felt defeated in trying then. Fortunately, this advise has come at the right time for me.
I suppose that this is why monks might train people that come to learn from them, as opposed to teaching on the street. And also why therapists only treat people who are ready for change.
If you like, we could continue our conversation by email? I appreciate that we have gone way off topic from the original intention of this thread as well. I appreciate Peter for being a gracious host! 🙏
Perspectives on pain differing. Hmm well I think that goes back to perseverance. Developing emotional resilience and a positive outlook. I think that belief is a very important step for change.
For example, as a child I trusted that a professional adult might be able to help me with my difficulties. I wanted to be different from my mother, I wanted to undo her teaching but I had no clue how to achieve this. I just wanted to try. I knew that I needed help and couldn’t do it on my own.
At the time, to me my pain separated me from others because I felt like they didn’t understand what I had been through. I lived through immense suffering to protect my brother.
But as an adult, I see that everyone suffers albeit in different ways. I no longer see my situation as unique and separate, just a different presentation of the same thing that everyone else is going through. Ups and downs in life.
Back when I was in the most pain as I hit adulthood due to my trauma compounding and not having the skills to cope. I didn’t see a way through it on my own, but I didn’t want to cause my adopted family pain. So once again I sought help to try to find a way through it. It took a lot for me to develop trust in the skill of the psychologist to be open to the experience. You see, the form of therapy I had was gruelling. It has a high drop out rate for participants because it involves re-experiencing severe trauma every day for 3 months. For people who aren’t ready for that experience, it can cause suicide attempts. I had to trust my therapist’s word that once I was through the difficult process that it would have a beneficial effect. I had to be emotionally strong enough to get through the process safely. Fortunately, that trust wasn’t misplaced. It was helpful in stopping the compulsive re-experiencing of traumatic memories that I was suffering from. The purpose was to fully process these memories to stop them from trying to pop up all of the time.
That therapist taught me to be my own therapist, so I would be able to take care of myself in the future and I wouldn’t need her anymore. After therapy there was a lot of work that I had to do on myself because I had to learn to live my life, which was scary and painful as it meant letting go of the safety of shutting myself away from the world.
I developed chronic physical pain and health issues and I needed to learn how to deal with that. I didn’t want to live with extreme physical suffering (for 6 months I couldn’t walk) but I had hope that I could recover somewhat, so I persevered and figured out ways to cope.
Now, I’m at a different stage again. I’ve lived my life for a time, achieved my modest goals. Grown as a person like I intended to. And now I’m raising a child. I need to continue to grow in other ways. I need to teach my son things that can help him in his life, help him to be strong and to be the best person that he can be. To do that, I need to be the best person that I can be. It is no longer about understanding pain because I see my pain as manageable in a way that I didn’t in the past. I just see it as a problem to be overcome and I have the tools that I need to do that. I’m looking for the knowledge, understanding and experience necessary for what I hope to achieve in the future.
I apologise this is going to have to be a two parter. I don’t want to lose what I’ve written so far. To be continued… Take care!
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