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  • in reply to: Emotionally Abused Man #117232
    John
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    Anita – In all honesty I cannot recall covert or overt aggression at home in my childhood. My father was a gentle person who was liked by everyone and everyone tells me that I take after him and my mother wasn’t a particularly domineering person. I have a brother who is two years older and we got on well enough but we were and are very different people. The problematic situation developed when I met my wife and I’m sure it was very much in response to her aggression and manipulation and my inability to deal with. As mentioned at the beginning of the thread, she was a Jekyll and Hyde character with a mixture of nice and nasty, which I could not deal with in an appropriate way. Why didn’t I turn away from her is a good question and I think that there was lot of guilt on my part. She was an expert at playing the victim and reminding me of all the good things she had done for me and she could make me feel guilty about not behaving in the way she wanted me to. She was an expert at this and could put on really convincing performances of great emotional distress. I fell for it every time and it took me a very decades to realize that it was always a performance designed to manipulate me into submission to her strong will. I must emphasise that other people in my life, who I am close to, can not make me feel like this. It is very specific to my wife and this situation developed quickly into a very controlling relationship. Paralyzed? Most definitely. The perfect victim!

    in reply to: Emotionally Abused Man #117142
    John
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    Anita – I agree with you that I need help which is one of the reasons I came to this website which I have found very helpful. In terms of help from someone, I have a great friend and she has been very understanding in many ways. She has the patience of a saint. Also, therapy was a little helpful but I didn’t find any great insight or answers but it was a useful way of unloading my problems onto someone who was sympathetic and trying to help.

    in reply to: Emotionally Abused Man #116984
    John
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    Anita – Your insight is very good in many areas. I did not reach out to others for help until fairly recently and my story was totally hidden for many years as I am not the type of person to confide in others about my problems. This includes my parents. From childhood to this present day I have never really discussed any of my problems with any family member. I am not sure why this has been the case but it is a lifelong pattern of behaviour. I was never discouraged from discussing problems but I would never raise them as I would not feel comfortable in doing so. As regards your question about living with pain before meeting my wife, I don’t recall much distress from my childhood or teenage years or early adulthood. Obviously, there were ups and downs but I recall just before meeting my wife I was in a happy place and enjoying life. Things changed quickly after that. Certainly, I was not well equipped to deal with the aggressive behaviour, which I found very controlling from the beginning and I think I mentioned this aspect in my first posting. The enduring pain in my life has been since meeting my wife and not before.

    in reply to: Emotionally Abused Man #116982
    John
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    AP85 – Thanks for your input. I know I need to make changes if any happiness is to follow and I know I am overdoing things with the victim mentality and self pity. The things you suggest I have tried multiple times and they don’t work for whatever reason. I am not sure why they don’t work other than to say there are forces within me that lead me to a very bad place in terms of how I feel. Believe me I have tried and battled against whatever it is that has caused me to get stuck where I am. The road to recovery is going to be a long one and I find that this message posting is very helpful to me as a way of getting things out of my system.

    in reply to: Emotionally Abused Man #116917
    John
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    These days she is old and housebound. When I was young she was a schoolteacher teaching very young kids. Being a schoolteacher she brought us up to be good mannered and to know right from wrong. She is a good natured person and got in very well with my father in that they never had any significant arguments in all the years they were married. She was the leader of the two but not in any domineering way. In many ways she is a very ordinary person who just likes to stay at home in a quiet and peaceful environment where no one bothers her.

    in reply to: Emotionally Abused Man #116861
    John
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    Anita – I am not sure I am interested in promoting my wife’s happiness anymore but her unhappy performances have a bad influence on me and cause me great emotional turmoil so it is the negative side of her behaviour that I have become conditioned to avoid through the brainwashing by her abusive behaviour. As regards your question about intimate moments, there haven’t been any for decades. We have slept in separate rooms for around 25 years and there has been no physical intimacy for over 30 years. I don’t like being around her and do not like her touching me. I am repulsed by the thought of physical contact with her. In the early days of the marriage she exhibited so much verbal and psychological aggression, which was a big turn-off for me. The marriage was dead in that respect right from the beginning. Around 20 years ago she asked me if I was gay, which I am not. She concluded that I wasn’t much interested in sex, which is not at all the case. Just not interested in her in that respect.

    in reply to: Advice appreciated, long term relationship ending. #116743
    John
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    jlo5 – I would recommend that you read a “why don’t they just leave” by Brian Fox on the hidden hurt website. If you Google “why don’t they just leave” it is the first Google hit as a pdf file and I found it very informative. It talks a lot about getting trapped in abusive relationships and how the victims find it impossible to get out of the “prison without bars” situation. Hopefully, this link will work or you can do the Google search as suggested. http://www.hiddenhurt.co.uk/support-files/why_dont_they_just_leave.pdf
    Presumably, you are also educating yourself about the long-term effects of emotional abuse and how controlling it can be such that the victim modifies their behaviour in order to prevent the abuse. It sounds like we are both doing that to try to keep the peace and have been doing so for a long time. I would also suggest you learn about complex PTSD as that definitely explains a lot about the high anxiety and the effects of living with long-term stress resulting from abusive situations that can occur in intimate relationships and how damaging it can be for those of us who experience it. For me it has been like being on the end of something truly evil. Almost in a supernatural kind of way. No doubt a psychologist would label it as brainwashing. My therapist seemed to think that the anxiety in me was caused by my thoughts and could not understand that I could feel the anxiety without any link to any particular thought processes. It has become like a reflex action in that my anxiety can escalate seemingly all on its own without any particular inputs of any particular thoughts. Whatever the cause, it is truly devastating for mental health and I suspect the only answer is to remove oneself from the situation and go “no contact”, which is very much easier said than done. Personally, I don’t seem to have the strength of character to overcome what it is that controls me. I know it is a weakness in me but that is in my nature when it comes to dealings with my wife, but only her. With normal people, my behaviour is normal. Do you feel the same in that you can be yourself with others but not with your partner? I’m guessing the answer is a big YES since what you describe is very familiar to me.

    in reply to: Advice appreciated, long term relationship ending. #116738
    John
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    jlo5 – I think we are in a similar situation as much of what you write is very similar to my experience. The rages being quickly forgotten about, almost as if they never happened is very familiar to me and the denial that any lasting damage can result is as if we are supposed to sit back and take it on the chin because that is the pattern of behaviour that has evolved over the years. Now you are challenging this behaviour and hopefully he is modifying his behaviour. That is the case with my wife but I can sense how she is really wanting to react. Just this morning she was trying on the coercion over nothing so I refused to play her game and she immediately started to raise her voice declaring that she didn’t want to start an argument. With such a declaration it’s obvious that is exactly what she wanted to do as that is her natural inclination over many decades of trying to bend me to her will. The point is that all the experts say that abusers who seek control never change, but sometimes they change tactics for a while. It shouldn’t have to be like that in what is supposed to be a loving relationship for mutual benefit. Ultimately, I’m guessing that what you are trying to achieve is a life without abuse which is not too much to ask and the only way that can happen is if he changes or you leave. In my case the damage has been done to such an extent that I can never have a loving relationship with my wife so my only option for peace is to leave but I am very bad at leaving having tried several times already. If my experience is anything to go by, leaving will be very difficult. Perhaps harder than you can possibly imagine but we are not the same person so maybe you will be more successful if that is the way things go. Best of luck with whatever path you take.

    in reply to: Emotionally Abused Man #116735
    John
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    Anita. I’m happy to answer anything. Please feel free to ask.

    in reply to: Emotionally Abused Man #116668
    John
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    Hello Anita – I’m not sure I understand your question exactly – “What is that relationship like?” other than to say it is a very positive and intimate relationship and we get on very well despite lots of difficulties over many years. My original posting contained more detail. If you need to know something specific then please feel free to ask a specific question.

    in reply to: Emotionally Abused Man #116589
    John
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    My leaving has usually been fairly short lived but the last time it lasted 4 weeks during which time I was not at all at ease. I stayed in a rented house, on my own mostly but also spent quality time with the lady I mentioned with whom I have had a long term relationship. I was in a rather depressed state of high anxiety for much of the time. I’m not quite sure why I went back or how it really happened other than I didn’t go “no contact” so somehow got reeled back in to the trap. To be honest it is all a bit vague and I was something of a wreck in terms of my mental health. Going back was a big mistake and as soon as I was back the thoughts of leaving returned at least as strong as ever, if not more so.

    in reply to: Emotionally Abused Man #116307
    John
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    What I want for the future is a peaceful life where I can do as I please even if that means doing nothing as opposed to someone who is constantly imposing their agenda on me. It’s as if she has the need to impose her agenda for the sake of being in control of me. Almost as if the imposition of the agenda is more important than the agenda. I just want to be left alone to do as I please without someone wanting me to do as they please and will invent stuff just to impose their will.

    in reply to: Emotionally Abused Man #116297
    John
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    I don’t tend to drive as you suggest but I take your point about being too close to what is not healthy and frightening. Normally, I have no problems confronting my fears. Speaking to an audience is not a problem for me having done it on many occasions. I just have these issues associated with standing up for myself within the context of my marriage which is a fear I face every single day. Unlike most fears, it doesn’t seem to get any easier even with daily exposure. That is what abuse does unfortunately. It causes psychological problems from constantly being on edge over the long term resulting in complex PTSD. The feelings keep on returning even in the absence of the stimulus.

    in reply to: Advice appreciated, long term relationship ending. #116106
    John
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    I changed my name from Broken Man to something less depressing. Please let us know what happens at the weekend. One thing to think about from my experience. If you do leave for an extended period that will send an incredibly strong message that talking and leaving for a short while does not. It shows you are very serious in a way that words and small actions can’t. In my case I went back to a changed person. The abuse has mostly stopped. I see hints of it coming occasionally but she keeps it under control, which just goes to show her abuse from the past was a deliberate choice. To be brutally honest, the change seems very false and rather creepy but at least the rages have mostly stopped having only happened once in the last 6 months. I am waiting for it to restart on a more regular basis in the way all the experts say it will as abusers supposedly never change. The only thing that is certain is that if you leave, things will be different even if you return and you sound very much like me who has left several times but returns. Apparently, it is very common for victims of domestic abuse to return to their abusers several times before finally escaping. There is a traumatic bond that develops into something that is very difficult to break on both sides. As I think you are finding, leaving such a relationship is extremely difficult for people like us who become trapped in a prison without bars.

    in reply to: Emotionally Abused Man #116104
    John
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    Adam P – Thanks for your suggestion. When I signed up to this site and started the thread I had a very different name. At some point it got changed when I was updating my profile but I don’t recall actually requesting the change to what it is today. Presumably some mistake on my part. I will change it to something more positive as I feel I am moving forward with a chapter of my life coming to an end and a new one about to start. Whether much really changes remains to be seen.

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